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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/07 22:21:13
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nice score. I bet you could get more out of your 9900k.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/07 22:26:38
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I think it's too much voltage. Causing you to hit the power limit often in test one.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/07 22:29:01
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/07 22:33:54
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If we compare results in Physics between processors we think Huuu that's some amazing difference. But then someone compare Intel Xeon X5650 OC + RTX2080Ti vs Intel i7-8700K + RTX2080, 9 years difference and fps is 20% higher.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/07 22:48:23
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thats because intel ipc hasn't changed or improved significantly in 10 ~years. AKA Skylake + + + + + + + + + + + The last IDC I ever went to was for core 2 duo. That was an impressive year for intc. first gen core was also impressive 6 core i7s ect. Sandy bridge was awesome and then they regressed to quad core smt mainstream for like a decade. Thinking about it is depressing. Its probably looking like 2022 intel we see something intriguing. If AMD cant beat intel IPC skylake +++++++ ipc this year im just going to pony up for a 9990K or a golden 7980xe
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 01:24:45
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Zeddivile thats because intel ipc hasn't changed or improved significantly in 10 ~years. AKA Skylake + + + + + + + + + + + The last IDC I ever went to was for core 2 duo. That was an impressive year for intc. first gen core was also impressive 6 core i7s ect. Sandy bridge was awesome and then they regressed to quad core smt mainstream for like a decade. Thinking about it is depressing. Its probably looking like 2022 intel we see something intriguing. If AMD cant beat intel IPC skylake +++++++ ipc this year im just going to pony up for a 9990K or a golden 7980xe
You're better off winning the lottery than finding a golden sample 7980xe to delid lol
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 02:14:18
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Zeddivile thats because intel ipc hasn't changed or improved significantly in 10 ~years. AKA Skylake + + + + + + + + + + + The last IDC I ever went to was for core 2 duo. That was an impressive year for intc. first gen core was also impressive 6 core i7s ect. Sandy bridge was awesome and then they regressed to quad core smt mainstream for like a decade. Thinking about it is depressing. Its probably looking like 2022 intel we see something intriguing. If AMD cant beat intel IPC skylake +++++++ ipc this year im just going to pony up for a 9990K or a golden 7980xe
You're better off winning the lottery than finding a golden sample 7980xe to delid lol
Yeah that's what I did, bought a 7980xe and a copper lid then delidded myself and put on copper lid. Copper lid plus Heatkiller IV Pro Pure copper water block doesn't get much better than that.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 07:50:46
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@dwexpress Nice! I have admired your HOF runs from a distance. That distance being the horsepower discrepancy of 9900K vs 7980xe.. heh I have a heatkiller on the 9900K bench and it certainly is impressive.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 09:19:45
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:38:01
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Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:43:25
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IT sounds like you are expecting to see 400watts + average through the card while gaming. I am not sure why you would want to do that to the silicon daily for hours. Frame times are good and so if perf in Metro without torturing the KPE. Metro is single player as well so IDK WHY? Why do you want this?
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:44:41
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Zeddivile IT sounds like you are expecting to see 400watts + average through the card while gaming. I am not sure why you would want to do that to the silicon daily for hours. Frame times are good and so if perf in Metro without torturing the KPE. Why do you want this?
That's not an average reading, that's the maximum. I'm saying my GPU is drawing significantly less power than anyone elses here and I seem to be losing performance due to that but can't get a decent answer as to why.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:48:21
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The answer #1 is NO 2080TI with stock bios approved by NVIDIA is going to drive an average wattage of 375-400 through the card perpetually at ambient. The answer #2 is everyone else has spent 4 weeks of tuning to get to where they are at. The approved algorithms do not permit this. The load dictates the power pull. Run the Power Virus if you want to see what the real limits are if you are not interested in finding sweet spots at voltage and clocks. The end goal for my self is to drive the most perf out of the least amount of power utilization at ambient. My current goal is to drive the highest level of performance out of the card for benching. Regardless of peak wattage.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:53:26
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Zeddivile The answer #1 is NO 2080TI with stock bios approved by NVIDIA is going to drive an average wattage of 375-400 through the card perpetually at ambient. The answer #2 is everyone else has spent 4 weeks of tuning to get to where they are at. The approved algorithms do not permit this. The load dictates the power pull. Run the Power Virus if you want to see what the real limits are if you are not interested in finding sweet spots at voltage and clocks.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:56:24
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I remove myself from further response to FROSTYBE3R. Your expectations on power draw and RTX perf our out of alignment with reality.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 10:58:19
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Zeddivile I remove myself from further response to FROSTYBE3R. Your expectations on power draw and RTX perf our out of alignment with reality.
Don't be childish, I know it can be hard behind your monitor sometimes but relax.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 11:06:41
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FROSTYBE3R Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
What is that? A benchmark? Game I'm guessing?
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 11:08:05
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FROSTYBE3R Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
What is that? A benchmark? Game I'm guessing?
It's just the menu screen. :)
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 11:13:40
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FROSTYBE3R Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
What is that? A benchmark? Game I'm guessing?
It's just the menu screen. :)
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 11:15:30
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FROSTYBE3R Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
What is that? A benchmark? Game I'm guessing?
It's just the menu screen. :)
Games wont pull max power from the card. That's why I've always experianced max clock that dont drop due to power limit. Just sticks and stays put when you take temp out of the equation with a water block.. that's how it was for my 1080/1080ti/2080ti ftw3 and prob be the same for the kingpin whenever I finally get around to gaming again. Though prob be closer using 4k res. I'm at 1440 ultra wide.. can hook the 40" samsung for 4k gaming if wanted. Or whatever it's called to up the res (DSR)??
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 11:21:05
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FROSTYBE3R Still capped at 360W, doesn't even hit that infact, using curve + classified tool.
What is that? A benchmark? Game I'm guessing?
It's just the menu screen. :)
Games wont pull max power from the card. That's why I've always experianced max clock that dont drop due to power limit. Just sticks and stays put when you take temp out of the equation with a water block.. that's how it was for my 1080/1080ti/2080ti ftw3 and prob be the same for the kingpin whenever I finally get around to gaming again.
Though prob be closer using 4k res. I'm at 1440 ultra wide.. can hook the 40" samsung for 4k gaming if wanted. Or whatever it's called to up the res (DSR)??
Yeah I play on 4K 98Hz HDR most of the time, I'm just slightly surprised despite the apparent 520W limit that we were advertised out of the box that it doesn't seem to be the case without voiding warranty(lol due to Nvidia of course). But I guess it's whatever for daily use, still outperforms my old founders by a good 15 fps in most titles at 4K Ultra. Gotten to the point where I don't care if it goes below 2175mhz now, just turned off the OSD instead.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 12:06:43
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hrm. Ok I will try to not be childish. Just frustrated after putting 4 weeks into tuning and learning with everyone else on the thread and then to try to help newer owners only to hear nonsense in return. Although my understanding of this is stuff is nowhere near mastery I am somewhat grounded in expectation and the performance I have tuned out of the card demonstrates some level of competence with the hardware. Imagine how EVGA feels. Like they sold a ferrari to a teenager as their first car. 520 watts is meme level amounts of power at ambient and to think a gaming load would draw that level of power is literally dangerous. Someone call the fire marshal types of ridiculousness. People say the 9900k @ 250 watts is insanely hot and close to impossible to cool. Yet 520watts on Turing should be easy? This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 12:11:20
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I just cant wait to remove her top to gaze at that sexy pcb! Haha
I'm willing to beta test that new block lol! Seriously send one to me!
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 12:17:53
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Zeddivile hrm. Ok I will try to not be childish. Just frustrated after putting 4 weeks into tuning and learning with everyone else on the thread and then to try to help newer owners only to hear nonsense in return. Although my understanding of this is stuff is nowhere near mastery I am somewhat grounded in expectation and the performance I have tuned out of the card demonstrates some level of competence with the hardware. Imagine how EVGA feels. Like they sold a ferrari to a teenager as their first car. 520 watts is meme level amounts of power at ambient and to think a gaming load would draw that level of power is literally dangerous. Someone call the fire marshal types of ridiculousness. People say the 9900k @ 250 watts is insanely hot and close to impossible to cool. Yet 520watts on Turing should be easy? This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain
I spent the same amount of money you did on this card(if not more due to currency conversion) I should be allowed to complain a little when I get a poorly binned chip. Lol. Comparison between my founders & evga:
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 12:24:56
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Whats the base boost with no tweaking? I thought for you it was 2050 or 2055? Some base boost no tweak to like 2010 <--- that is a poorly binned card? IDK what the range was on the binning. My KPE depending on ambient base boosts to 2050. it seems like the binning was Target 2205 +- 10% @xxx watts or something.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
2019/05/08 13:54:12
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Zeddivile hrm. Ok I will try to not be childish. Just frustrated after putting 4 weeks into tuning and learning with everyone else on the thread and then to try to help newer owners only to hear nonsense in return. Although my understanding of this is stuff is nowhere near mastery I am somewhat grounded in expectation and the performance I have tuned out of the card demonstrates some level of competence with the hardware. Imagine how EVGA feels. Like they sold a ferrari to a teenager as their first car.
520 watts is meme level amounts of power at ambient and to think a gaming load would draw that level of power is literally dangerous. Someone call the fire marshal types of ridiculousness.
People say the 9900k @ 250 watts is insanely hot and close to impossible to cool. Yet 520watts on Turing should be easy? This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain
I spent the same amount of money you did on this card(if not more due to currency conversion) I should be allowed to complain a little when I get a poorly binned chip.
Lol. Comparison between my founders & evga:
Your card did fine.. just tested mine and it's like 50-80 points less then yours. Different cpu as I'm on a 9900k at 5.2ghz. Like 14275.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
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Zeddivile hrm. Ok I will try to not be childish. Just frustrated after putting 4 weeks into tuning and learning with everyone else on the thread and then to try to help newer owners only to hear nonsense in return. Although my understanding of this is stuff is nowhere near mastery I am somewhat grounded in expectation and the performance I have tuned out of the card demonstrates some level of competence with the hardware. Imagine how EVGA feels. Like they sold a ferrari to a teenager as their first car.
520 watts is meme level amounts of power at ambient and to think a gaming load would draw that level of power is literally dangerous. Someone call the fire marshal types of ridiculousness.
People say the 9900k @ 250 watts is insanely hot and close to impossible to cool. Yet 520watts on Turing should be easy? This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain
I spent the same amount of money you did on this card(if not more due to currency conversion) I should be allowed to complain a little when I get a poorly binned chip.
Lol. Comparison between my founders & evga:
Your card did fine.. just tested mine and it's like 50-80 points lead then yours. Different cpu as I'm on a 9900k at 5.2ghz.
Yeah a 9900K at 5.2GHz is definitely gonna get more fps than this, I was just on 4.4GHz using a U12A cooler lol.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
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Zeddivile hrm. Ok I will try to not be childish. Just frustrated after putting 4 weeks into tuning and learning with everyone else on the thread and then to try to help newer owners only to hear nonsense in return. Although my understanding of this is stuff is nowhere near mastery I am somewhat grounded in expectation and the performance I have tuned out of the card demonstrates some level of competence with the hardware. Imagine how EVGA feels. Like they sold a ferrari to a teenager as their first car.
520 watts is meme level amounts of power at ambient and to think a gaming load would draw that level of power is literally dangerous. Someone call the fire marshal types of ridiculousness.
People say the 9900k @ 250 watts is insanely hot and close to impossible to cool. Yet 520watts on Turing should be easy? This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain
I spent the same amount of money you did on this card(if not more due to currency conversion) I should be allowed to complain a little when I get a poorly binned chip.
Lol. Comparison between my founders & evga:
Your card did fine.. just tested mine and it's like 50-80 points lead then yours. Different cpu as I'm on a 9900k at 5.2ghz.
Yeah a 9900K at 5.2GHz is definitely gonna get more fps than this, I was just on 4.4GHz using a U12A cooler lol.
Haha edited mine above. Dumb phone auto corrected my words. Tried to say less then yours. My top was 14275. Quick shot at 8k and scored 6118.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet?
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