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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 16:33:34 (permalink)
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Wait, custom cables is now supposedly causing issues too? Sure seems like more and more the problems with these cards dying is this, that, and the other, but never the actual card's fault.



 
I think they ment stability problems, and a number of things can cause those. But they do have to be be careful what custom cable set they get.
 
When the GPU dies it's obvious it's dead.
 
 

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 16:49:14 (permalink)

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 17:36:45 (permalink)
everyday, more and more evga 3090s are bricking...that's a wee bit concerning
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 19:55:22 (permalink)
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It might run longer than that, but they go out of spec, and that is the real problem.
 
Quality of the PSU doesn't matter here, even the best PSU on the market would need to be replaced in say 10 years.
 
It's actually scary to see how far they can go out of spec over time, and sometimes the protection doesn't work anymore either.
 
So if they go they can take the whole system them.


The big thing with power supplies is capacitor aging . This will increase ripple and decrease transient response. What other spec are you saying goes out?
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 20:45:21 (permalink)
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It might run longer than that, but they go out of spec, and that is the real problem.
 
Quality of the PSU doesn't matter here, even the best PSU on the market would need to be replaced in say 10 years.
 
It's actually scary to see how far they can go out of spec over time, and sometimes the protection doesn't work anymore either.
 
So if they go they can take the whole system them.


The big thing with power supplies is capacitor aging . This will increase ripple and decrease transient response. What other spec are you saying goes out?



 
The built in protections could also stop working correctly.
 
Also output capacity does degrade over time.
post edited by jankerson - 2020/11/01 20:49:58

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:01:23 (permalink)
Have both a XC3 and FTW3 3090. On some older power supplies, I've noticed that not all VGA/PCI power can output what the 3090 is demanding. A friend's 1k PSU has 4 PCIE ports on his PSU, but 2 are rated lower in amperage than the #3/4 plugs.
 
On my unit, I've seen a peak 475W draw from my FTW3 where PCI3 was pulling 160W.
 
This has been shown on my UPS as much as a 930W draw from the wall.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:06:13 (permalink)
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:10:20 (permalink)
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A friend's 1k PSU has 4 PCIE ports on his PSU, but 2 are rated lower in amperage than the #3/4 plugs.

Is that a multiple rail PSU? I believe you should not be running power from different rated rails into the same card... different cards on different rails is fine.
 
 
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:11:52 (permalink)
I advised him to pull from plugs 3/4 which was its own 12V rail and had the A available for his 3090. On my PSU, all my PCI-E grab from the same rail. I have 6 PCIE plugs for VGA use.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:16:18 (permalink)
 
 
 


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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:20:21 (permalink)
Guys just remember that statistically speaking you'll always hear about 10x more failures than you will positives.  I have a 3090 on a 6+ year old PC Power and Cooling 750W power supply and I push my 3090 to stupid levels with no issues on a 4K display with settings maxed constantly.  There may indeed be an issue with a batch of cards, that's always possible, but before you go crying foul let's get some real facts about what's happening.
 
We also need more details from the users who are having problems... bios/firmware versions, were they overclocking or using stock bios specs, etc.  To come on and say my card died after X minutes doesn't tell us anything.  Did you crank your settings up in that 14 minutes or install fresh out of the box?  What was happening when it failed?  eVGA will need as much information as possible to isolate a potential issue.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:23:53 (permalink)
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Have both a XC3 and FTW3 3090. On some older power supplies, I've noticed that not all VGA/PCI power can output what the 3090 is demanding. A friend's 1k PSU has 4 PCIE ports on his PSU, but 2 are rated lower in amperage than the #3/4 plugs.
 
On my unit, I've seen a peak 475W draw from my FTW3 where PCI3 was pulling 160W.
 
This has been shown on my UPS as much as a 930W draw from the wall.




 
Some are setup that way, just have to make sure the card is plugged into the ones that are rated higher Amperage so the OCP doesn't trip.
 
 

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:29:37 (permalink)
My PSU is an EVGA 1200 P2. The 6 pcie slots draw from 1 rail rated to 1200W.
 
https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=220-P2-1200-X1
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:29:49 (permalink)
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Is that you, or are you re-using images of others?
 


I can assure you its not his




 
Why would they be? I just pulled some off the net for reference.
 
People don't go out and just buy that equipment unless they need it, mostly it's companies that buy them. It's not exactly cheap that's for sure.
 
I used to have access to equipment like that, not exactly the same models, years ago when I was still in the business.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:49:20 (permalink)
Wow it seems my PSU query stirred quite a debate here. Chill fellas. From an engineering standpoint, there is a life of every thing, PSU included and I think its prudent to change the component near End of Life (EOL). MTBF (mean time between failure) is another good metric to judge it on. Lets be realistic here, not everyone has the equipment or technical acumen to go on testing a PSU output, stability, variance, unless they do it for living.

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 21:53:33 (permalink)
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Wow it seems my PSU query stirred quite a debate here. Chill fellas. From an engineering standpoint, there is a life of every thing, PSU included and I think its prudent to change the component near End of Life (EOL). MTBF (mean time between failure) is another good metric to judge it on. Lets be realistic here, not everyone has the equipment or technical acumen to go on testing a PSU output, stability, variance, unless they do it for living.




 
Yeah, people aren't just going to go out and spend $5,000 to $10,000 on professional PSU testing equipment unless they do it for a living like you said.
 
I know I sure wouldn't do it because I had access to it from the company I used to work for.
 
I only had to actually use it a few times, most of the time it wasn't needed by me.

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/01 23:09:08 (permalink)
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We also need more details from the users who are having problems... bios/firmware versions, were they overclocking or using stock bios specs, etc.  To come on and say my card died after X minutes doesn't tell us anything.  Did you crank your settings up in that 14 minutes or install fresh out of the box?  What was happening when it failed?  eVGA will need as much information as possible to isolate a potential issue.





BIOS was stock. Not sure what version number, no way to check now. The BIOS switch was set to Normal. 
Firmware was whatever the latest was on 10/30, which I was prompted to install when I ran Precision X1 for the first time.
Didn't do any sort of OCing.
Played 3 games with RTX on without issue over the course of about 4 hours... (Quake 2, Control, Minecraft).
No GPU intensive programs were running at the time of failure. I was just idling on the desktop and talking on Discord when the 3090 died.
There was no sign of the PSU tripping or failing at any point.
 
Here's my relevant system specs again:
 
CPU: 6700k @ 4.5 GHz
Mobo: Asrock Z170 Extreme7+ 
PSU: Seasonic Snow Silent Platinum Rated 1050w (5 years old. Using all original cables.)
 
 
 
 
post edited by marcula - 2020/11/01 23:11:13
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/02 02:06:56 (permalink)
You can check Windows Event Viewer if it shows anything near the time of crash.  When you get a new card, try using HWiNFO64 Sensors and log a typical gaming session.  If a couple tries lead to similar stats, this can be your baseline reference in the future(if no hardware changes or major software updates).  A card crashing could be many things.  Use a systematic approach to eliminate possible issues and keep notes.  Don't change too many things at once since it will be harder to isolate problem areas.  Good luck with you replacement card.  Sometimes, you get a lemon.

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/02 03:57:17 (permalink)
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Starting to see a pattern here, imagine the amount of Dead cards we don't hear about, because the user is not on the forums.



My GPU was a month old, brand new Corsair RM750.  3080 ran great for a week or so, then died.  All other video cards work perfectly in my system.  So I do not think it is due to old PSUs.
 
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/02 08:04:21 (permalink)
Im shure they will get it figured out

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/02 09:00:53 (permalink)
My 8 year old Kingwin Lazer Platinum 750W Platinum (LZP-750) is running like a champ with my EVGA 3090 XC3 Ultra Gaming.  Granted it does have some mild coil whine from time to time, but that predated the 3090.  On a side note, my old Intel DZ77RE-75K motherboard with 3770k overclocked to 4.2ghz runs the 3090 great too, other than a fast quadruple beep at POST to remind me that I have a 3090 inside.  lol   The beeping seems related to having the board in legacy mode, as putting it in EUFI boot only makes the beeps go away strangely.  But beeps or not, the 3090 runs fine and is cooler/quieter than my last card, which was a GTX 780 that lasted me 7 years!   I'm hoping this holds me over at least until Intel releases their pcie 4.0 offerings.  Then I can upgrade the rest of my rig. 
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/02 12:21:52 (permalink)
Of all the protection circuitry that goes into these cards, I have a hard time believing the engineers assumed that everyone would use an excellent specimen of a PSU that not only met the wattage requirements stated by Nvidia, but then went on to ensure that their PSU *also* met some unlisted, transient-response capabilities that other cards have hitherto managed to survive without. 
 
These cards should not be so sensitive and fragile. 
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 07:55:33 (permalink)
Just got home from voting. I booted my pc to the lock screen before I left, but never logged in. Windows pre-sign in is off. I get back, my room is around 17°. I sit down, notice a heat bubble from my PC. My GPU is idling at 60°C.. Crashes, hitting 81°+ in games, idling at 60.. It's just not running well. Seems I'm gonna end up using my RMA.
 

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 08:25:23 (permalink)
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Of all the protection circuitry that goes into these cards, I have a hard time believing the engineers assumed that everyone would use an excellent specimen of a PSU that not only met the wattage requirements stated by Nvidia, but then went on to ensure that their PSU *also* met some unlisted, transient-response capabilities that other cards have hitherto managed to survive without. 
 
These cards should not be so sensitive and fragile. 




The 3080 and 3090, especially the FTW3s pull a lot more power than the 1000 and 2000 series cards. Which also means the transient power spikes will also be higher. And they are a lot higher.
 
Nvidia has no control over what the PSU manufactures do or don't do when they design PSUs.
 
It comes down to PSU design really in the end so doing some research and checking professional reviews before buying a PSU is important.
 
In the end it's important to get a good high quality PSU, not the cheapest one in the list.
 
A difference in even $20 in price can make the difference in it working and not working.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 08:38:20 (permalink)
Very interesting to know and take in consideration.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 08:55:10 (permalink)
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Of all the protection circuitry that goes into these cards, I have a hard time believing the engineers assumed that everyone would use an excellent specimen of a PSU that not only met the wattage requirements stated by Nvidia, but then went on to ensure that their PSU *also* met some unlisted, transient-response capabilities that other cards have hitherto managed to survive without. 
 
These cards should not be so sensitive and fragile. 




The 3080 and 3090, especially the FTW3s pull a lot more power than the 1000 and 2000 series cards. Which also means the transient power spikes will also be higher. And they are a lot higher.
 
Nvidia has no control over what the PSU manufactures do or don't do when they design PSUs.
 
It comes down to PSU design really in the end so doing some research and checking professional reviews before buying a PSU is important.
 
In the end it's important to get a good high quality PSU, not the cheapest one in the list.
 
A difference in even $20 in price can make the difference in it working and not working.
 
 
 
 


What, exactly, does Nvidia say is required from a PSU for, say, the 3090? All I have seen is a wattage rating. There may be an efficiency rating too. It's Nvidia's job to ensure that what they sell works within *those* specs. It's terrible business to excuse subsiquent failures with supposed requirements that were never listed and/or virtually impossible for the end user to verify.

More importantly, total, permanent failure, should not be an acceptable result when their product is used with a PSU that meets *the specs they listed.*

If Nvidia engineered a product that requires PSU's with a secret unobtanium rating just to avoid popping like a fuse, they need to go back to the drawing board.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 09:48:34 (permalink)
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Of all the protection circuitry that goes into these cards, I have a hard time believing the engineers assumed that everyone would use an excellent specimen of a PSU that not only met the wattage requirements stated by Nvidia, but then went on to ensure that their PSU *also* met some unlisted, transient-response capabilities that other cards have hitherto managed to survive without. 
 
These cards should not be so sensitive and fragile. 




The 3080 and 3090, especially the FTW3s pull a lot more power than the 1000 and 2000 series cards. Which also means the transient power spikes will also be higher. And they are a lot higher.
 
Nvidia has no control over what the PSU manufactures do or don't do when they design PSUs.
 
It comes down to PSU design really in the end so doing some research and checking professional reviews before buying a PSU is important.
 
In the end it's important to get a good high quality PSU, not the cheapest one in the list.
 
A difference in even $20 in price can make the difference in it working and not working.
 
 
 
 


What, exactly, does Nvidia say is required from a PSU for, say, the 3090? All I have seen is a wattage rating. There may be an efficiency rating too. It's Nvidia's job to ensure that what they sell works within *those* specs. It's terrible business to excuse subsiquent failures with supposed requirements that were never listed and/or virtually impossible for the end user to verify.

More importantly, total, permanent failure, should not be an acceptable result when their product is used with a PSU that meets *the specs they listed.*

If Nvidia engineered a product that requires PSU's with a secret unobtanium rating just to avoid popping like a fuse, they need to go back to the drawing board.



 
Like I said Nvidia has no control over what the PSU manufactures do or the quality of the PSUs, design etc.
 
MOST as in almost all of the shut down issues are related to PSU design and issues.
 
Some models just can't handle the transient power spikes, that's a PSU design problem, not a GPU problem.
 
As things advance in the future this will become more important.
 
 
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 10:20:19 (permalink)
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MOST as in almost all of the shut down issues are related to PSU design and issues.
 
Some models just can't handle the transient power spikes, that's a PSU design problem, not a GPU problem. 
 
 




What data are you basing this statement on?
 
I've seen reports from folks with dead cards who are using relatively new high-end PSUs, e.g. the OP from the "3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead After 2 Days" thread was using a 2 year old EVGA 1200w P2. 
 
 
This is all pointing to a straight up product defect with a batch of FTW3s, and not some unicorn PSU that's needed to run it. Causing a PSU to trip or the system to shutdown because a PSU can't handle the power draw is one thing-- but I think *actually smoking* and completely bricking is another. I don't know if other AIB cards are having the same issues, but I haven't heard anything close to the number of failures being reported on this forum yet.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 10:31:22 (permalink)
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Just got home from voting. I booted my pc to the lock screen before I left, but never logged in. Windows pre-sign in is off. I get back, my room is around 17°. I sit down, notice a heat bubble from my PC. My GPU is idling at 60°C.. Crashes, hitting 81°+ in games, idling at 60.. It's just not running well. Seems I'm gonna end up using my RMA.
 


 
How's your airflow? My 3090 idled in the fifties before I cranked up all my fans and opened my case. Then it idles in the 30s. These cards need serious cooling.
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Re: Another one bites the dust... 3090 FTW3 Ultra bricked within hours of installation. 2020/11/03 11:14:01 (permalink)
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MOST as in almost all of the shut down issues are related to PSU design and issues.
 
Some models just can't handle the transient power spikes, that's a PSU design problem, not a GPU problem. 
 
 




What data are you basing this statement on?
 
I've seen reports from folks with dead cards who are using relatively new high-end PSUs, e.g. the OP from the "3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead After 2 Days" thread was using a 2 year old EVGA 1200w P2. 
 
 
This is all pointing to a straight up product defect with a batch of FTW3s, and not some unicorn PSU that's needed to run it. Causing a PSU to trip or the system to shutdown because a PSU can't handle the power draw is one thing-- but I think *actually smoking* and completely bricking is another. I don't know if other AIB cards are having the same issues, but I haven't heard anything close to the number of failures being reported on this forum yet.




 
Very small handful of actual failures.
 
 

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