jankerson

nomad47
Man this is getting concerning. My Seasonic is 7 years old and I am hoping to pair a 3070 with it. Hope such problems do not come to the 3070 being a low wattage card

 
If it's that old it needs to be replaced regardless of what GPU you are getting.

I was planning to replace it, just not immediately. Its working well actually and is right now driving a R9 290, a much more power hungry card than a 3070. SO i was hoping this would be OK

jankerson

nomad47

jankerson

nomad47
Man this is getting concerning. My Seasonic is 7 years old and I am hoping to pair a 3070 with it. Hope such problems do not come to the 3070 being a low wattage card

 
If it's that old it needs to be replaced regardless of what GPU you are getting.

I was planning to replace it, just not immediately. Its working well actually and is right now driving a R9 290, a much more power hungry card than a 3070. SO i was hoping this would be OK

Working doesn't mean it's right.... Correct, still within spec etc.
 
PSUs go farther out of spec the older they get, reason they need to be replaced near the end of the warranty period.
 
They don't last forever.

I will change in sometime in near future. Was really hoping to run atleast another year, lol.
 
 

AWK16

nomad47
Man this is getting concerning. My Seasonic is 7 years old and I am hoping to pair a 3070 with it. Hope such problems do not come to the 3070 being a low wattage card

Your 7 year seasonic should be more then fine. I had 14 year old Platinum that was still working fine I just want it to replace. I think Its a combination of the cards that  might have already hidden issues and  just ready anytime to fail and might be some, to degree under-power PSUs

I hope so. But at the same time I do not want my card to die within one hour of plugging it in. But I should be worried about getting a card first, lol

Mine is running fine since I got it less than a week after launch.....I'm sorry you seemed to get a lemon :(
Hope the next one works better, tho I would update that PSU to 1000W+ but new....PSU's older than 5 years should be replaced.... ...imo.....

transdogmifier
Mine is running fine since I got it less than a week after launch.....I'm sorry you seemed to get a lemon :(
Hope the next one works better, tho I would update that PSU to 1000W+ but new....PSU's older than 5 years should be replaced.... ...imo.....

 
Depends on the warranty period.
 
10 year warranty, would replace at about 9 years max.
 
But nobody should be be actually using a PSU for more than 10 years period.
 
 

ngaugler

jankerson
 
They don't last forever, a PSU is not a toaster. 
 

You can put one in a toaster!  https://imgur.com/gallery/cj550iz


If the PSU is a solid build, it should last more than 5 years, especially on a 7 year warranty and the fact the wattage is more than adequate.  If the company is providing a warranty for 7 years, the product should/usually will last longer. 

 
It might run longer than that, but they go out of spec, and that is the real problem.
 
Quality of the PSU doesn't matter here, even the best PSU on the market would need to be replaced in say 10 years.
 
It's actually scary to see how far they can go out of spec over time, and sometimes the protection doesn't work anymore either.
 
So if they go they can take the whole system them.

What the heck going on with the 3090 FTW3 ... my 3080 FTW3 so far so good but these threads make me nervous.

jankerson

transdogmifier
Mine is running fine since I got it less than a week after launch.....I'm sorry you seemed to get a lemon :(
Hope the next one works better, tho I would update that PSU to 1000W+ but new....PSU's older than 5 years should be replaced.... ...imo.....

 
Depends on the warranty period.
 
10 year warranty, would replace at about 9 years max.
 
But nobody should be be actually using a PSU for more than 10 years period.
 
 

I don't hold to that warranty period supposition.
 
5 years? New PSU.
 
Especially when it coincides with a 2k graphics card heh
 

Why do you think EVGA offers 10-year warranties on their power supplies if they need to be replaced in 4 or 5 years just asking

markuaw1
Why do you think EVGA offers 10-year warranties on their power supplies if they need to be replaced in 4 or 5 years just asking

You can run it for 10 years if you choose to, not past that however.
 
I wouldn't run it past 8 personally in a system I cared about knowing what I know about PSUs and what happens to them as they age.
 
 

jankerson

I_R0M_I
The fear mongering here is unreal!
 
@ Jankerson, you're saying a PSU should be replaced before / leading up to the warranty period? 
 
Do you apply this logic to everything electrical? Because everything has components that will degrade. Replacing CPU, GPU, Ram, all before warranty expires? TV? Console?
 
Im not denying things degrade, and need replacing. But the notion that a PSU cant even be trusted until its warranty expires, and may brick the GPU is just mental.
 
For the record, im still using a 12 year old HX1000, with my 3080 sucking 450w. I do have a replacement for it, when I pick up a 5900x and rebuild.

 
Ideally for a new system they should be swapped out once they get close.
 
I am not saying replace one at 5 years on a 10 year warranty, I wouldn't do that.
 
NO, I wouldn't personally run any PSU in one of my PCs past 10 years I don't care what it was.
 
You could have that HXI tested, maybe send it to Corsair, you would be surprised how far out of spec it is right now. 
 
And no I am not kidding, it won't even be close.
 
Just because they turn on doesn't mean they are fine.

So how much confidence you have in Seasonics 12 years
 
When I said earlier "So I was very lucky" It was sarcasm. You don't need professional equipment to test your PSU for its functionality and points of failure, all you need good fluke and knowing how to test 3v, 5v and 12v rails. You can put them on loads and see how much voltage and how much current your PSU outputs, keeping in mind you need to know what you’re doing.
 
Ripple has little to do with how functional your PSU is, It  does either keep the voltage steady or fluctuate more or less  under different loads, but even if your ripple is off and would have to be seriously out of whack your PSU  or M/B  safety switch will shot down before anything else.
 
Changing PSU every 5 years is absolutely over exaggeration, again, unless you talking very cheap unit.
 
People that test PSUs on more professional level  doing it to compare apples to apples, all for marketing
 

Kyato
There's a Reddit thread talking about this very problem, and many people are coming to the same conclusion that it is due to bad batches of cards (but then again, considering where Nvidia manufacturers them, that isn't surprising, considering its a country that lacks good quality control regulations)
 
This is why I am nervous about getting my card (IF I ever get it, still no e-mail) since my PSU is only two years old but has custom cables.

If the custom cables meet or exceed the thickness of the original cables (and connector quality), there shouldn't be an issue.

AWK16

jankerson

I_R0M_I
The fear mongering here is unreal!
 
@ Jankerson, you're saying a PSU should be replaced before / leading up to the warranty period? 
 
Do you apply this logic to everything electrical? Because everything has components that will degrade. Replacing CPU, GPU, Ram, all before warranty expires? TV? Console?
 
Im not denying things degrade, and need replacing. But the notion that a PSU cant even be trusted until its warranty expires, and may brick the GPU is just mental.
 
For the record, im still using a 12 year old HX1000, with my 3080 sucking 450w. I do have a replacement for it, when I pick up a 5900x and rebuild.

 
Ideally for a new system they should be swapped out once they get close.
 
I am not saying replace one at 5 years on a 10 year warranty, I wouldn't do that.
 
NO, I wouldn't personally run any PSU in one of my PCs past 10 years I don't care what it was.
 
You could have that HXI tested, maybe send it to Corsair, you would be surprised how far out of spec it is right now. 
 
And no I am not kidding, it won't even be close.
 
Just because they turn on doesn't mean they are fine.

So how much confidence you have in Seasonics 12 years
 
When I said earlier "So I was very lucky" It was sarcasm. You don't need professional equipment to test your PSU for its functionality and points of failure, all you need good fluke and knowing how to test 3v, 5v and 12v rails. You can put them on loads and see how much voltage and how much current your PSU outputs, keeping in mind you need to know what you’re doing.
 
Ripple has little to do with how functional your PSU is, It  does either keep the voltage steady or fluctuate more or less  under different loads, but even if your ripple is off and would have to be seriously out of whack your PSU  or M/B  safety switch will shot down before anything else.
 
Changing PSU every 5 years is absolutely over exaggeration, again, unless you talking very cheap unit.
 
People that test PSUs on more professional level  doing it to compare apples to apples, all for marketing
 

 
There is a lot more to it than that, a lot more.
 
And no, you can't test a PSU with a meter to see if it's actually still in spec. 

jankerson

AWK16

jankerson

I_R0M_I
The fear mongering here is unreal!
 
@ Jankerson, you're saying a PSU should be replaced before / leading up to the warranty period? 
 
Do you apply this logic to everything electrical? Because everything has components that will degrade. Replacing CPU, GPU, Ram, all before warranty expires? TV? Console?
 
Im not denying things degrade, and need replacing. But the notion that a PSU cant even be trusted until its warranty expires, and may brick the GPU is just mental.
 
For the record, im still using a 12 year old HX1000, with my 3080 sucking 450w. I do have a replacement for it, when I pick up a 5900x and rebuild.

 
Ideally for a new system they should be swapped out once they get close.
 
I am not saying replace one at 5 years on a 10 year warranty, I wouldn't do that.
 
NO, I wouldn't personally run any PSU in one of my PCs past 10 years I don't care what it was.
 
You could have that HXI tested, maybe send it to Corsair, you would be surprised how far out of spec it is right now. 
 
And no I am not kidding, it won't even be close.
 
Just because they turn on doesn't mean they are fine.

So how much confidence you have in Seasonics 12 years
 
When I said earlier "So I was very lucky" It was sarcasm. You don't need professional equipment to test your PSU for its functionality and points of failure, all you need good fluke and knowing how to test 3v, 5v and 12v rails. You can put them on loads and see how much voltage and how much current your PSU outputs, keeping in mind you need to know what you’re doing.
 
Ripple has little to do with how functional your PSU is, It  does either keep the voltage steady or fluctuate more or less  under different loads, but even if your ripple is off and would have to be seriously out of whack your PSU  or M/B  safety switch will shot down before anything else.
 
Changing PSU every 5 years is absolutely over exaggeration, again, unless you talking very cheap unit.
 
People that test PSUs on more professional level  doing it to compare apples to apples, all for marketing
 

 
There is a lot more to it than that, a lot more.
 
And no, you can't test a PSU with a meter to see if it's actually still in spec. 

You obviously have no clue what you saying I could laid that out  for you exactly how you test it, step by step, but whats the point I can tell you going to say anything, even if you don't know.  When I have been doing this, I'm almost sure you where only  few years old
 
 

AWK16

jankerson

AWK16

jankerson

I_R0M_I
The fear mongering here is unreal!
 
@ Jankerson, you're saying a PSU should be replaced before / leading up to the warranty period? 
 
Do you apply this logic to everything electrical? Because everything has components that will degrade. Replacing CPU, GPU, Ram, all before warranty expires? TV? Console?
 
Im not denying things degrade, and need replacing. But the notion that a PSU cant even be trusted until its warranty expires, and may brick the GPU is just mental.
 
For the record, im still using a 12 year old HX1000, with my 3080 sucking 450w. I do have a replacement for it, when I pick up a 5900x and rebuild.

 
Ideally for a new system they should be swapped out once they get close.
 
I am not saying replace one at 5 years on a 10 year warranty, I wouldn't do that.
 
NO, I wouldn't personally run any PSU in one of my PCs past 10 years I don't care what it was.
 
You could have that HXI tested, maybe send it to Corsair, you would be surprised how far out of spec it is right now. 
 
And no I am not kidding, it won't even be close.
 
Just because they turn on doesn't mean they are fine.

So how much confidence you have in Seasonics 12 years
 
When I said earlier "So I was very lucky" It was sarcasm. You don't need professional equipment to test your PSU for its functionality and points of failure, all you need good fluke and knowing how to test 3v, 5v and 12v rails. You can put them on loads and see how much voltage and how much current your PSU outputs, keeping in mind you need to know what you’re doing.
 
Ripple has little to do with how functional your PSU is, It  does either keep the voltage steady or fluctuate more or less  under different loads, but even if your ripple is off and would have to be seriously out of whack your PSU  or M/B  safety switch will shot down before anything else.
 
Changing PSU every 5 years is absolutely over exaggeration, again, unless you talking very cheap unit.
 
People that test PSUs on more professional level  doing it to compare apples to apples, all for marketing
 

 
There is a lot more to it than that, a lot more.
 
And no, you can't test a PSU with a meter to see if it's actually still in spec. 

You obviously have no clue what you saying I could laid that out  for you exactly how you test it, step by step, but whats the point I can tell you going to say anything, even if you don't know.  When I have been doing this, I'm almost sure you where only  few years old
 
 

AWK16

jankerson

AWK16

jankerson

I_R0M_I
The fear mongering here is unreal!
 
@ Jankerson, you're saying a PSU should be replaced before / leading up to the warranty period? 
 
Do you apply this logic to everything electrical? Because everything has components that will degrade. Replacing CPU, GPU, Ram, all before warranty expires? TV? Console?
 
Im not denying things degrade, and need replacing. But the notion that a PSU cant even be trusted until its warranty expires, and may brick the GPU is just mental.
 
For the record, im still using a 12 year old HX1000, with my 3080 sucking 450w. I do have a replacement for it, when I pick up a 5900x and rebuild.

 
Ideally for a new system they should be swapped out once they get close.
 
I am not saying replace one at 5 years on a 10 year warranty, I wouldn't do that.
 
NO, I wouldn't personally run any PSU in one of my PCs past 10 years I don't care what it was.
 
You could have that HXI tested, maybe send it to Corsair, you would be surprised how far out of spec it is right now. 
 
And no I am not kidding, it won't even be close.
 
Just because they turn on doesn't mean they are fine.

So how much confidence you have in Seasonics 12 years
 
When I said earlier "So I was very lucky" It was sarcasm. You don't need professional equipment to test your PSU for its functionality and points of failure, all you need good fluke and knowing how to test 3v, 5v and 12v rails. You can put them on loads and see how much voltage and how much current your PSU outputs, keeping in mind you need to know what you’re doing.
 
Ripple has little to do with how functional your PSU is, It  does either keep the voltage steady or fluctuate more or less  under different loads, but even if your ripple is off and would have to be seriously out of whack your PSU  or M/B  safety switch will shot down before anything else.
 
Changing PSU every 5 years is absolutely over exaggeration, again, unless you talking very cheap unit.
 
People that test PSUs on more professional level  doing it to compare apples to apples, all for marketing
 

 
There is a lot more to it than that, a lot more.
 
And no, you can't test a PSU with a meter to see if it's actually still in spec. 

You obviously have no clue what you saying I could laid that out  for you exactly how you test it, step by step, but whats the point I can tell you going to say anything, even if you don't know.  When I have been doing this, I'm almost sure you where only  few years old
 
 

 
Something like this:
 

 
 
Then you have to test the ripple:
 

Wait, custom cables is now supposedly causing issues too? Sure seems like more and more the problems with these cards dying is this, that, and the other, but never the actual card's fault.