well thats why you get the new noctua d14 that was adapted for that very reason ;)

edit i cant post links yet but go to youtube and check out noctua computex 2011

Bruno747

SiriusDragon

lehpron

SiriusDragon

EVGA_JacobF

SiriusDragon I'd like lots of 'native' SATA/SAS ports on my mobo, kthx.

You got it

evga delivers!

Chances are the support was always there, so it is an easy promise to make.

SiriusDragon
there's no 4-way support on AMD chips so I won't be leaving Intel any time soon.

Pardons if I've misunderstood, what are you talking about? 

SiriusDragon
I'm also hoping that's a confirmation the rumours I've seen of there being cut down chipsets is false... or atleast that evga won't use them

Patsburg is like Cougar Point, it is just a southbridge chipset and can apply in many board types.  X79 is just one type, and it is and always has been vendor perogative which features to enable.  If EVGA feels enabling all of it will helps their sales and/or reputation, they will.

sorry, i meant 4-way sli, not 4 sockets. i'd barely be able to use 2 sockets, let alone 4 x.x

i think it'd definately be in evga's interest to use the 'full feature' versions of the chipsets, atleast for their high end boards :)

In the words of emiril agasii or however you spell it.

BAMM http://www.newegg.com/Pro...8508&Tpk=ud7%20990

4 way sli, and bulldozer if amd ever releases it...

 
slight problem - that board lacks the dual nf200 chips necessary for 4-way sli :)
 
also, nvidia have said they'll only support a single nf200 chip on amd boards - which means no 4-way sli using individual cards. unfortunately the sli hack doesn't get around the nf200 restriction as it's a really low level check in the driver :(
 
nvidia would also argue that the nf200 is 'necessary' to help performance, but still... choices are good!
 
the RoG Xtender works with amd boards, but is a very unweildy solution at best and not suitable for case mounting

Halo_003

EVGA_JacobF

Halo_003

EVGA_JacobF

SiriusDragon I'd like lots of 'native' SATA/SAS ports on my mobo, kthx.

You got it

How about a 4 Way SLI version? 

Yup!

If I can find 3 more GTX 285 Classifieds will you send me one with a CPU to beta test? 

If I don't have anything other than a case, can I beta test and keep the hardware after the test?  I might be willing to spring for a new PSU myself in a tit-for-tat arrangement:P

Bruno747

SiriusDragon

Bruno747

SiriusDragon

lehpron

SiriusDragon

EVGA_JacobF

SiriusDragon I'd like lots of 'native' SATA/SAS ports on my mobo, kthx.

You got it

evga delivers!

Chances are the support was always there, so it is an easy promise to make.

SiriusDragon
there's no 4-way support on AMD chips so I won't be leaving Intel any time soon.

Pardons if I've misunderstood, what are you talking about? 

SiriusDragon
I'm also hoping that's a confirmation the rumours I've seen of there being cut down chipsets is false... or atleast that evga won't use them

Patsburg is like Cougar Point, it is just a southbridge chipset and can apply in many board types.  X79 is just one type, and it is and always has been vendor perogative which features to enable.  If EVGA feels enabling all of it will helps their sales and/or reputation, they will.

sorry, i meant 4-way sli, not 4 sockets. i'd barely be able to use 2 sockets, let alone 4 x.x

i think it'd definately be in evga's interest to use the 'full feature' versions of the chipsets, atleast for their high end boards :)

In the words of emiril agasii or however you spell it.

BAMM http://www.newegg.com/Pro...8508&Tpk=ud7%20990

4 way sli, and bulldozer if amd ever releases it...

slight problem - that board lacks the dual nf200 chips necessary for 4-way sli :)

also, nvidia have said they'll only support a single nf200 chip on amd boards - which means no 4-way sli using individual cards. unfortunately the sli hack doesn't get around the nf200 restriction as it's a really low level check in the driver :(

nvidia would also argue that the nf200 is 'necessary' to help performance, but still... choices are good!

the RoG Xtender works with amd boards, but is a very unweildy solution at best and not suitable for case mounting

Care to try again young padewan? ;) Your telling me that they ship the 4 way sli bridge, yes the 4 card bridge with this mobo for no reason? I guess the videos on youtube, and the images benchmarks were all vapor ware too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3cszgFrrE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvqD4282hgU&NR=1

http://www.f-paper.com/?i541833-Image:-990FX-Quad-SLI-X58-motherboard-showdown-performance-comparison-test-(10)

 
no need for the smartass answer, nvidia have obviously changed their official stance recently as last time i read they weren't supporting such setups - i'm referring to their official slides that got leaked about AMD SLI chipset support.
 
the fact that they do now is great for competition and i approve of it. if bulldozer is any good, then i'll definately give it a go. i won't be jumping in until i've seen legit comparisons to socket 2011 setups however...
 
the next big step will be to remove the nf200 requirement on intel platforms - unless of course they've done so already, which would be nice.

SiriusDragon
slight problem - that board lacks the dual nf200 chips necessary for 4-way sli :)

I haven't been keeping up with SLi enabled AMD boards, but doesn't 990FX chipset have 42 lanes of PCIe? So quad-SLI with x8's are possible.   Another 8 lanes and that is a native triple x16.  Of course if two nF200's can add 16 each, then that's the required 64 lanes.

SiriusDragon
the next big step will be to remove the nf200 requirement on intel platforms - unless of course they've done so already, which would be nice.

Unlike X58 which had the external controller with 36 lanes, LGA2011 CPUs have an on-die controller with 40 lanes.  Close to the 990FX chipset in terms of default lanes, but still needing at least another external PCI controller and chipset for more lanes. 
 
That said, Intel's controller is 3.0, 3.0 x8 = 2.0 x16, so maybe an nF200 isn't needed at all default on X79, with the equivalent of 80 lanes.

according to a few rumors PCIe 3.0 has been dropped from the first X79 releases

SiriusDragonYeah, you're correct about the number of PCI-E lanes, however the NF200 fakes 2 x16 slots, so technically 4-way according to nvidia's requirements needs 4 x x16 slots, hence why I found it odd you can run 4-way SLI at 4 x x8 speeds on a 990FX based mobo :-\

Makes me wonder why nvidia didn't remove the nf200 'requirement' for intel boards too! Also, nvidia said they won't be supporting dual nf200 setups on 990FX boards, hence why I ruled out 4-way sli on AMD...

Anyway... I hope you're right about PCI-E 3.0 on socket 2011 :) It'd be very handy to have that much PCI-E bandwidth directly from the CPU!

NF200 doesn't "fake" slots. What it adds during the convertion is called "latency", and it adds very little latency anyway. Native 2.0 x8 is sufficient for you, but your chip is probably better than anything Bulldozer.

Johhny Doe

SiriusDragonYeah, you're correct about the number of PCI-E lanes, however the NF200 fakes 2 x16 slots, so technically 4-way according to nvidia's requirements needs 4 x x16 slots, hence why I found it odd you can run 4-way SLI at 4 x x8 speeds on a 990FX based mobo :-\

Makes me wonder why nvidia didn't remove the nf200 'requirement' for intel boards too! Also, nvidia said they won't be supporting dual nf200 setups on 990FX boards, hence why I ruled out 4-way sli on AMD...

Anyway... I hope you're right about PCI-E 3.0 on socket 2011 :) It'd be very handy to have that much PCI-E bandwidth directly from the CPU!

NF200 doesn't "fake" slots. What it adds during the convertion is called "latency", and it adds very little latency anyway. Native 2.0 x8 is sufficient for you, but your chip is probably better than anything Bulldozer.

 
Well, by fake I mean the slots appear to be x16 slots as far as the drivers are concerned - ie. if I go into the nvidia control panel, and view system information all 4 of my gpus show up as being in x16 2.0 slots, even though the 'true' bandwidth is probably only around the x8 mark... Aaaanyway, I don't want to go too far off into the nf200 topic >.<
 
The main point I guess is that I find it odd that although X58 supports 4 x x8 slots, nvidia require 2 nf200 chips, while for the 990FX chipset they don't require the nf200s, despite it having the same 4 x 8 slot layout.

seronx990FX with no NF200(Quad SLI Compatible)
8x/8x/8x/8x
990FX with 1 NF200 (Future "Sapphire 990FX") (Physx+Quad SLI)
16x/8x/8x/8x/8x
990FX with 2 NF200 (I dunna know)
16x/16x/16x/8x/8x
990FX with 3 NF200 (5 way SLI?)
16x/16x/16x/16x/16x

I call fud on this one. Source?

seronxI want 5 ports =.= Folding@Home!

http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1140825

But I guess you don't buy Intel. lol.

I don't know much about F@H... but I'm pretty sure slot bandwidth makes no difference as it only matters when shuffling data from the cpu to the card and back - which only happens when the card needs more work. AFAIK people even run video cards in x1 slots with no issues for folding purposes.
 
Also, Sapphire won't make an SLI compatible board and especially not one with an NF200 chip - nvidia won't give them an SLI license because they don't sell nvidia gpus.

The nForce 200 is a PCIe Switch, much like the ones PLX has, but they are certified to allow higher levels of SLI by means of a license. The way the switch works is that it inputs a signal from the motherboard, I've seen it work with both 16x and 8x signals, and outputs 2 16x signals (or 1 16x and 2 8x or 4 8x). This adds latency since the chip has to manage this signal processing, but not much compared to the performance you will see with higher levels of SLI. The cards have access to a real 16x lane, however, when that 16x lane and another 16x lane tries to communicate with the CPU at full load, they will be restricted by the single 16x or 8x lane that connects the nForce 200 to the CPU (either directly with Sandy Bridge or via a chipset pre-Sandy Bridge). I don't know if the nForce 200 allows the two GPUs to communicate with each other through itself, bypassing the need to communicate through the CPU, but if it can act in this manner (and it probably does since it is a switch), it would make the limited up-link to the CPU a non-issue. It would only be limited when you have 2 nForce 200s trying to communicate with each other.
 
nVidia uses the nForce 200 with the excuse of additional performance. In reality, they had too many nForce 200s leftover after their nForce platform failed to get QPI support from Intel. Currently, nVidia only has access to AMD's HT technology, making AMD their only possible chipset partner, but I think AMD is already dominating the field with their own chipsets. Forcing customers to use the nForce 200 for SLI is an easy way for nVidia to make up for their failed deal with Intel, as they need to get rid of their stock. It was a pity too since the nForce chipset has always been my favorite. But anyway, with PCIe 3.0 coming, and with nForce 200 being a PCIe 2.0 switch, I doubt nVidia would make a chip just for the sake of forcing it on customers. It would be a waste of R&D money on their part. Also, I think you would get better performance just having 4 8x lanes, since even with PCIe 2.0 technology, AMD was able to allow 4 cards to work with this type of bandwidth with good scaling. If you drop the need for a PCIe bridge chip, you get rid of the added latency, you save space on the motherboard, you save power, but most importantly, you save costs, making motherboards cheaper, which is what motherboard manufacturers are most concerned about (also why you see so little boards with the nForce 200 chipset, and much much less with 2 of them).

Jacob,
 
Is there any possibility of a dual-socket board that is at or near EATX form-factor size (12x13")? I imagine at least one will board will have quad SLI support, but a smaller variation of the board possibly with 3 16x slots would be nice as well. Thanks.
 

Looks very sweet indeed.  I'd love to get one,  too bad it's intel I have a severe long time issue with intel which is why I only run AMD lol.  Looks sweet as heck though.

what was dropped? you forgot part of your post

There will be a successor to the SR-2 using LGA2011 that was said to be expected one month after EVGA launches their first X79 board. The Super Record brand is not going away.