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2022/08/28 06:03:08 (permalink)
I've been enjoying my new system for awhile now...playing lots of games, actually being able to watch 1080 and even 1440 Youtube.  
 
There are a couple of quirks I've noticed.  Recently, when the system is booting up, before the Z690 title screen, the screen shows "9C".   After title screen, of course, it goes to the Windows login.
 
The second quirk,...sometimes, when I start up the system, I'll get 6 beeps,...and when that happens, the keyboard won't work.  I have to reach around to the back, unplug the cord, plug it back in, then it works.  
 
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> PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
> CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
> Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
> Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
> Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/28 07:38:20 (permalink)
    Check the bios USB settings for the keyboard. Sometimes I have noticed that the bios will be set to start some USB devices but not all. You can set the bios to activate all USB devices which should help with that.

    Is 9C on cold/fresh boot by any chance? Or is it after a reboot?

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/28 09:31:00 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    I've been enjoying my new system for awhile now...playing lots of games, actually being able to watch 1080 and even 1440 Youtube.  
     
    There are a couple of quirks I've noticed.  Recently, when the system is booting up, before the Z690 title screen, the screen shows "9C".   After title screen, of course, it goes to the Windows login.
     
    The second quirk,...sometimes, when I start up the system, I'll get 6 beeps,...and when that happens, the keyboard won't work.  I have to reach around to the back, unplug the cord, plug it back in, then it works.  
     
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    sup five months gone by already?
     
    i was just thinking about Operating System Resources on my old HTPC and how it would have been cool to explain monitoring and diagnosing them with Windows Task Manager with u. (i used to get them all the way to up 100% back in the old Windows 98 days. Now a days 99% is the max.)
     
    Ur keyboard not working is normal.
    Example: (not verbatim but hopefully close enough.)
    1. U press the Power Button with the PC completely off.
    2. It starts Booting and the Keyboard's LEDs light-up.
    3. u get to the EVGA Welcome Screen (i forget what it's called mine has been disabled for months.)
    4. U let the PC continue to boot.
    5. Then it is correct for the Keyboard's LED Lights to go out.
     
    i forget when the Beeps occur. But all should be fine as far as ur Keyboard goes.
     
    Next, the 9C. Well u know this is my 1st EVGA board too. And i know u know to search Manual. But i'll look now anyways... it says (like u found too) "9C = USB Detect".  So it sounds like u have probly plugged in some new USB devices recently. Or changed the USB ports they were plugged into and that made a difference.
     
    ok bak to my HTPC and work on its EPG.
     
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    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
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    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/28 11:29:36 (permalink)
    turn Off fast Boot in BIOS, if you have not already done so

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/28 11:42:12 (permalink)
    What PSU do you use? I am wondering if it's a load issue.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/29 20:24:39 (permalink)
    Hey guys.  Thanks for the replies.  Bee, yes it has been a fast 5 months!  
     
    Anyway, not sure about the "9C".  Not anything that really does anything, just something I noticed.  
     
    As for the USB devices, not sure.  I do have a couple of wireless "dongles" plugged into the back USB ports for mouse and headset.  But I can have nothing changed, and will get the "9C".  I mostly just ignore it.
     
    On the occasional time when I get the 6 beeps, and the keyboard not working, where I have to unplug it and plug it back in,...it only does it on rare occasions.  I'm not sure what the causal factor is.  After I plug it back in, it works fine.  
     
    Now, today, I did get a system freeze.  Probably a fluke.  \
     
    Cool GTX, Fast Boot is off in BIOS.
     
    Hoggle, I have my PSU listed in below, but it is:  EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    post edited by RAVENEVGA - 2022/08/30 03:45:16

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
    > Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
    > Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
    > Second Monitor: Samsung C27F591 [Model:LC27F591FDN]
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/30 03:51:39 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA,
     
    i didn't realize u were having to unplug and re-plug ur KB... so, u must be talking about needing to do so, when ur in Windows, right?
     
    i'm curious if ur KB always works before getting into Windows. (with the exception of the normal time the LEDs go out. i wonder if my NumLock lite works during that time... i'm going to go test it, after this post is done, and edit this post with the results, because it would be a good thing to know. a nice litmus test.)
     
    And note: any time that rare occasion(s) occur, problem-solving-wise, it's a good time -- like u are on this thread -- to start finding a solution. because it can/might/maybe not hopefully, get worse, and it's best to find the solution early on.
     
    it sounds like a software driver problem. but it could also be a hardware problem. or even both because one can be caused by the other. It's less likely that a software driver problem degrades hardware but it possible and it's more likely that failing hardware degrades software drivers. so long story short, get the latest drivers and of course read at the manufactures site about newer drivers if they exist and be sure installation protocols are followed perfectly. maybe ur existing drivers for KB were not installed correctly and maybe ur using legacy driver from Microsoft (m$) and that a no no. especially if the KB only fails in Windows.
     
     
    after getting everything working five months ago, did u ever have to unplug/re-plug the KB for it to work, or never?
     
     
    if yes ^^, has the rarity of unplugging/re-plugging the KB for it to work, stayed consistent, or has it increased, ever so slightly, and what was the rate of the said increased frequency?
     
    GL and BRB after litmus test
     
     
    Edit: "NumLock key/light" doesn't work when LED light on KB are out while booting. and i tried the old PauseBreak key trick too. Meaning, when LED lights on KB are out while booting, i struck the "PauseBreak key" a single time and doing so did not pause booting. If KB is active (working) sometimes "PauseBreak key" can pause the boot process. Doing so is cool for being able to read large amounts of text before it flashes by; but more with a Legacy BIOS and doesn't happen with UEFI like we have. i wonder if it is ever applicable with UEFI. it's got to be sometime. 
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/08/30 04:14:28

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
    > DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
     
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/30 13:59:41 (permalink)
    I am using the EVGA Z15 keyboard.  Right now, it is currently "working",....but none of the lights are.  Not the RGB,....not the LEDs that indicate whether you are Cap Locks or Num Locks on.  It is very weird.  
     
    Unplugging it, and plugging it back in, now the lights all work.
     
    BTW, what driver are you suggesting I download?

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
    > Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
    > Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
    > Second Monitor: Samsung C27F591 [Model:LC27F591FDN]
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/31 05:37:45 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    I am using the EVGA Z15 keyboard.  Right now, it is currently "working",....but none of the lights are.  Not the RGB,....not the LEDs that indicate whether you are Cap Locks or Num Locks on.  It is very weird.  
     
    Unplugging it, and plugging it back in, now the lights all work.
     
    BTW, what driver are you suggesting I download?


     
    u have Windows 11, right?
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/download/
     
    from ^^ after clicking on view, under notes, u'll see:
    https://www.evga.com/support/download/showdlinfo.aspx?id=18901&type=other
     
     
    And as far as everything EVGA Z15 KB support-wise:
     
    EVGA Gaming Keyboards
     
    GL
     

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/31 07:54:15 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    I am using the EVGA Z15 keyboard.  Right now, it is currently "working",....but none of the lights are.  Not the RGB,....not the LEDs that indicate whether you are Cap Locks or Num Locks on.  It is very weird.  
     
    Unplugging it, and plugging it back in, now the lights all work.
     
    BTW, what driver are you suggesting I download?


    I have this problem as well, but assumed it was because I was using a Drop ALT keyboard with a cable longer than 6' (this keyboard's notorious for needing more power).  I regularly do the USB disco/reco shuffle on boot.
     

     
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/08/31 15:25:50 (permalink)
    Yup, Bee.  Windows 11.  
     
    Thanks for the help, once again.  Much respect for the people on this board!  

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
    > Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
    > Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
    > Second Monitor: Samsung C27F591 [Model:LC27F591FDN]
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/01 15:54:17 (permalink)
    I had another incident with my computer randomly freezing, causing me to have to do a hard reboot.  It's confusing why this still occasionally happens.

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/02 06:46:02 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    I had another incident with my computer randomly freezing, causing me to have to do a hard reboot.  It's confusing why this still occasionally happens.


     
    sry, i overlooked the second quirk in ur OP, or i wanted to focus on the 1st quirk and as a result forgot about the second one:
     

    RAVENEVGA
    I've been enjoying my new system for awhile now...playing lots of games, actually being able to watch 1080 and even 1440 Youtube.  
     
    There are a couple of quirks I've noticed.  Recently, when the system is booting up, before the Z690 title screen, the screen shows "9C".   After title screen, of course, it goes to the Windows login.
     
    The second quirk,...sometimes, when I start up the system, I'll get 6 beeps,...and when that happens, the keyboard won't work.  I have to reach around to the back, unplug the cord, plug it back in, then it works.  
     
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    i said sry ^^ because it's always best when a PC has a problem like u described, as ur second quirk, not to unplug the cord and re-plug it back in; for the sake of attempting to get it to successfully boot all the way into Windows.
     
    Instead, what u want to do, is to use the power button. U should press and hold the power button a few seconds until it fully shuts down. Then wait a few seconds and start it.
     
    If ^^ doesn't work then maybe a setting for the power button in BIOS needs to be checked. But seeing how u are using Optimal Defaults + EMP enabled for ur RAM, ur power button settings in ur BIOS should be fine.
     
    The next steps can be lengthy, but because it was covered already in ur initial thread, it can be abbreviated, without extensive explanations...
     
    If and only if, u have all ur BIOS settings memorized:
    1. Enter BIOS>>
    2. Load Optimal Defaults>>
    3. Save Exit BIOS>>
    4. Enter BIOS>>
    5. Change settings to like u had before>>
    6. Save Exit BIOS>>
    7. Boot into Windows and for a few minuets test basic programs>>
    8. Restart PC>>
    9. And again, Boot into Windows and for a few minuets test basic programs>>
    10. Shut Down PC and wait at least 50 seconds>>
    11. Start PC, and again, Boot into Windows and for a few minuets test basic programs and a few Games for about twenty minuets>>
    12. Restart PC, go into BIOS, and create a new BIOS Settings Profile.
     
    Now continuing again without extensive explanations. The least preferable method of pulling the power chord out of the back (versus the much more preferable, shutting down with the power button -- which i hope works) can possibly corrupt exiting BIOS settings. So Loading Optimal Defaults and all ur setting manually, can rule it out and correct it. Always use the Power button and not the power-chord. The switch on the back of the PSU is the best 2nd option, but only when the Power Button won't shut down a PC. Getting rid of the need to ever have to is best, because that means the PC works perfectly in regards to that aspect of it. And of course there's the Restart Button on ur case too. It should always work. But when a PC doesn't boot properly and freezes a full shutdown before starting is usually the preferred method.  That gives the BIOS the best chance to completely and properly load again from scratch.
     
    So now back to the "second quirk" in ur OP....
     
    u said, "The second quirk,...sometimes, when I start up the system, I'll get 6 beeps,...and when that happens, the keyboard won't work. [i'm intentionally leaving out the power-chord part.]"
     
    Or better yet, the problem simply stated would be:
     
    Sometimes when starting my PC I hear six beeps, the keyboard doesn't work, and the PC freezes. 
     
    So that gets us to the following:
     
    1. Simply state the problem.
     
    2. Make a list of Tools to fix the problem.
     
    3. Pick one tool from the list then create an Algorithm.
     
    4. Implement the algorithm.
     
    5. If the problem isn't fixed Repeat step three.
     
    The ^^ problem solving technique is called STAIR. (See the underlined words ^^ in steps one thru five?)
     
    So as far as tools go this thread u created was a great start. (The EVGA z690 Forums is the Tool and creating this thread is an Algorithm.) And there's also all the obvious tools. Like do u remember all the ones in ur 1st thread? (ElevenForum Dot Com, YouTube, etc.)
     
    I really like maybe EVGA's KB forums could help by finding others with the exact same or simular problem and hopefully a solution too. Or just starting a thread could be a good idea. But don't abandon this one!
     
    The oldest tool for a technician; one that suspects it's the KB, and in a situation like this that ur having; is to try using a PS2 KB. But we don't have a PS2 port on this Classified MOBO. I think the Dark does. So the next best thing is a Corded USB KB, that one knows absolutely works. So find one u have and test with it.
     
    GL
     
     
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/09/02 13:15:01

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
    > DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
     
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/03 07:17:11 (permalink)
    Honestly,....I wish I had someone with FAR more computer knowledge come to my place and look it over to see if it is actually set up as it should have been.  At this point, I'm at a loss of how to proceed.  I'm very much a novice/noob, being my first build and all.  I feel like I am not even close to the knowledge base to have done this build...and should have just got a pre-built system, or had a boutique shop build me one.
     
    This morning I had another system freeze...where I had to hold the power button.  I had run for quite some time without this happening, but in the last week, it's happened three times now.  I'm quite frustrated about this build.  It still works...and I can do things on it.  
     
    I am still using the Beta Bios, BTW.
    post edited by RAVENEVGA - 2022/09/03 07:18:14

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
    > Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
    > Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
    > Second Monitor: Samsung C27F591 [Model:LC27F591FDN]
    > Video Card: EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA
    > Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL


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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/03 07:44:31 (permalink)
    cell phone camera is a good way to save BIOS screen shots
     
    use the manual & see how/ if you can save your BIOS settings is a good option, once you have them set correctly
     
    Take photos & post the photos & maybe some can review & give feedback that might help you
     
    Use a photo host service & post a link of "Copy Image Link" to place photo in your post, more details can be found --> PSA adding a photo to your Post - EVGA made some changes - Post Directions below
     
    Web search your MB - something like "EVGA Z690" & Classified & OC guide
     
    Review those results & see if basic BIOS information is helpful
     
    Stability - stopping Crashes - can be a bit painful to track down as they can be from many different source, not just the same thing over & over
     
    Best to always start with just the basics: Correct assembly, basics BIOS settings, clean OS install
     
    When you turn Windows "off" the MB still gets power & sometimes a USB device can backfeed power to MB ... point is you do not automatically get a True Cold Boot
     
    Cold boot steps:
     
    1) Hold down the shift key  & keep it down until PC shuts off - Use Window's - shutdown from start Button - this clears Windows start files - "make Win look at your Hardware again & NOT just load the last Boots files "blindly"
     
    2) Unplug everything going to A/C power that is attached to PC
     
    3) Hold Start button 30 seconds after you unplug ... this discharges the capacitors in your PC
     
    4) Plug everything back in needed to Boot: PC, Monitor, KB, mouse .... Now restart PC
     
    5) Go into BIOS & make Sure Fast Boot is Off ... we want the MB to look at all hardware on startup "take inventory"
     
    6) Open Windows .. logon
     
    7) Looks good so far, now try the Restart from the Start Button .... does PC restart & look good / No issues?

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/04 07:00:19 (permalink)
    Well, I guess I screwed something up.....and it figures.  Probably didn't do your steps right, Cool GTX.  I held the shift key when powering off.  I didn't unplug everything...figuring the on/off switch on the back of the PSU would be the same, so switched it to 'off'.  Held the button for 30 seconds.  Turned the PSU switch 'on' and started the computer.  BIOS does have Fast Boot 'off'.  The system comes on fine, but now, my case fans are stuck at full speed.  I have Lian Li fans, with the software, and had to set the Fan Mode to 'manual' [normally have them set to PWM] to get them to not run at ~ 1930 RPMs.   In the BIOS, I have everything pointing to PWM, except for the two fans on the cooler, which are pointing to CPU.
     
    I suck at this.  
    post edited by RAVENEVGA - 2022/09/04 09:22:45

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
    > Cooling: Noctua NH-U12A
    > Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5, 32 GB [2x16GB], 5600MhHz
    > Physical Memory Model#: CMT32GX5M2B5600C36W
    > Main Monitor: LG UHD 4K 32" [Model:32UN500-W.AUS]
    > Second Monitor: Samsung C27F591 [Model:LC27F591FDN]
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/05 10:01:12 (permalink)
    Just this morning, in the space of 2 1/2 hours, I had two freezes where I had to hold the power switch for a hard shutdown.  I have been okay for quite awhile.  I have no idea why these freezes are starting again.  
     
    On a sidenote, whenever it happens, the NUM LOCK on my keyboard is off when the system comes back up.   
     
    Is it possible that I have faulty components?  A motherboard or something?  
     
    And at this moment, I really am uncertain if my BIOS setup is how it actually should be.  And again, I'm currently using the Beta BIOS.  Do I need to do a newer one?

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.10 6/21/2022)
    > CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/05 13:53:23 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    Just this morning, in the space of 2 1/2 hours, I had two freezes where I had to hold the power switch for a hard shutdown.  I have been okay for quite awhile.  I have no idea why these freezes are starting again.  
     
    On a sidenote, whenever it happens, the NUM LOCK on my keyboard is off when the system comes back up.   
     
    Is it possible that I have faulty components?  A motherboard or something?  
     
    And at this moment, I really am uncertain if my BIOS setup is how it actually should be.  And again, I'm currently using the Beta BIOS.  Do I need to do a newer one?





     
    ur version of BIOS is fine. possibly re-flashing it is a question to ask. but only if any reason to believe it needs to be. i don't think u need to. and anything but like discussed before (Optimal Defaults + EMP + all others u used successfully for five moths) are all that is needed. remember i still use v1.03 NPs watsoever.
     
    Are u have both freezing in Windows and sometimes while Booting?
     
    If the PC is freezing while in Windows, then it could be software, Hardware, or both causing it.
     
    If Freezing occurs in Windows AND sometimes while Booting, then it's likely Hardware related. But, ur using a UEFI (not a Legacy BIOS) and other ppl may have to chime in whether or not it is just as likely software causing freezing while Booting.
     
    For now start by replacing ur existing KB in order to rule it out. Use anything u have that works or grab an inexpensive KB online to have around for testing.  Example: Amazon Basics Low-Profile Wired USB Keyboard with US Layout (QWERTY), Matte Black Replacing a KB, for the sake of ruling it out as a cause/ contributing factor, is as easy as it gets.
     
    GL
     
     
    Edit: And in addition to ^^, because i think it might solve all problems during Booting with a UEFI, and especially in Windows, video drivers could be at fault, so a clean video driver is overdue!
     
    See:
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3559604 
     
    For how to, go to ^^ post from ur 1st Thread and scroll down to "For the sake a Clean Video Driver Installation..."
     
    if it works, thank CoolGTX for it working so well five months ago, and again now. i learned how and the importance of doing so from him, 15+ years ago.
     
     
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/09/05 14:35:05

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    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/06 06:24:10 (permalink)
    It is only freezing in Windows...and for no specific reason.  I think it was doing this before the EVGA keyboard, but who knows at this point if the keyboard is sometimes causing it.  
     
    Yeah, I did the clean video driver install awhile back and haven't downloaded any new drivers since then.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/06 09:12:04 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    It is only freezing in Windows...and for no specific reason.  I think it was doing this before the EVGA keyboard, but who knows at this point if the keyboard is sometimes causing it.  
     
    Yeah, I did the clean video driver install awhile back and haven't downloaded any new drivers since then.


     
    it is freezing very likely because a clean driver install is needed.
     
    u can use the same version used last time a clean driver install was done.
     
     
     

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/06 16:13:09 (permalink)
    I'm obviously a noob, but I'm not sure how a clean install is needed again when I did it not that long ago.  I've not updated any drivers since.
     
    BTW, I've had no issues today.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/07 06:12:27 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    I'm obviously a noob, but I'm not sure how a clean install is needed again when I did it not that long ago.  I've not updated any drivers since.
     
    BTW, I've had no issues today.



    Hi Raven,
     
    Not to answer for Bee really as I'm not sure on their theory, but for example: sometimes Windows updates can cause some weird driver stability issues. I've had Windows update install an old or bad intel graphics driver and had that cause some odd corruption before. I had to go find the correct intel driver for the integrated GPU (that's in the CPU) and run that fresh, then do a clean install of the Nvidia driver (making sure PX1/Afterburner/HWiNFO/any other monitoring software were closed) just to clean things up and get it all back to normal. It is usually good to keep your Windows up to date, but every once in a while updates cause more harm than good (which is why some people decide to just turn off Windows updates or intentionally run an old version they know was good and just risk any security issues or compatibility problems with new games, etc.). It is those times where you sometimes need to either wait for a new driver or update to fix an issue or you try to clean install things to see if that helps.
     
    I would have no idea if that's what your issue is though. We can try to get a clue through the event viewer again, but you'd have to know when it froze so you can look at the Windows System logs during that time to see if it was, for example, the Nvidia driver that locked up at the time. If you freeze again, take a look in there to see if anything sticks out before the power-loss ("unexpected power failure" or whatever it calls it which is when you hold the power button to shut the system down because it's frozen). I remember last time we were looking for this code, you had all the WHEA errors and the beta BIOS had fixed that for you.
     
    Also, I didn't see anybody answer your question about 9C code on the screen. I'm assuming you're talking about your monitor screen because you said right after the z690 splash screen. I've seen that too. 9A, 9B, 9C, and 9D are USB initialization, reset, detect, and enable and they're one of the last parts of the POST before it boots windows or goes into setup (which would be A9). Sometimes USB detect takes a second or two, which is why you actually see that code. I think the others go by pretty fast and we just only notice the ones that take longer. I regularly see codes 69, 55, and 75 on my POST readout during boot, but it isn't stuck on them, it just takes longer on those steps than some others. I think 55 pauses because there's no memory installed in 2 of the 4 slots for example. It generally just means something is wrong if it stops there and does not continue to post, or if it beeps (the angry beeps) while showing you a code. It sounds like you have an issue with the keyboard for example where sometimes it does the angry beeps at you unless you unplug the keyboard and plug it back in. I don't have a solution for you for that one, other than to try and put in a support ticket about it to see if they can help with any suggestions.
     
    Going back to your freezing issue, if it isn't driver related, it may not be easy to track down. Without some sort of code or specific time it happens, those can be really tricky, even for experts so no need to beat yourself up. Can you tell us more about exactly what you were doing when it froze? Do you have any on screen monitors/OSD/overlays running while playing games? What I'm wondering is: if you're playing a game, is your CPU or GPU running really hot, is your GPU running at 5000FPS (or some crazy high number for some reason), or anything else that seems out of the ordinary when it happens? Do your fans ramp up when it freezes? Does the screen completely freeze or turn black or look fuzzy or anything? If playing a game, does the audio continue to sort of work normally? Those are the kind of clues you can look for.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/07 14:58:54 (permalink)
    Nothing seems out of the ordinary when it freezes.  It seems fine...then freezes.  Whatever sound is happening at the time "strobes" [for lack of a better word] on whatever was playing through the speakers.
     
    One time I was just clicking in the internet.  Another time, I was in a Fortnite game.
     
    If I continue to have issues, I may have to resort to the clean install.
     
    And I'll consider what you said in PM as well.
     
    Thank you!

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/07 15:12:21 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    Nothing seems out of the ordinary when it freezes.  It seems fine...then freezes.  Whatever sound is happening at the time "strobes" [for lack of a better word] on whatever was playing through the speakers.
     
    One time I was just clicking in the internet.  Another time, I was in a Fortnite game.
     
    If I continue to have issues, I may have to resort to the clean install.
     
    And I'll consider what you said in PM as well.
     
    Thank you!




     
    "[One time I was just clicking in the internet.  Another time, I was in a Fortnite game.]"
    ^^ sounds like a driver stability issues with ur Video Card's drivers. And if u don't attempt a clean driver install now, while u can, u might later on wish u had when u had the chance to.
     
    NOW'S THE TIME! and not later... better done before things get worse... and not after they do.
     
    GL
     
     
     
     

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/12 16:44:27 (permalink)
    So,...I did the clean install, yesterday.  
     
    A few moments ago, while in a game, my computer decided to randomly restart.  When it started, the NUM LOCK, once again, was no longer on.
     
    Update.  It came back up.  I was getting back into posting here again, when it rebooted on it's own again.
     
    post edited by RAVENEVGA - 2022/09/12 16:54:49

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/12 23:18:28 (permalink)
    RAVENEVGA
    So,...I did the clean install, yesterday.  
     
    A few moments ago, while in a game, my computer decided to randomly restart.  When it started, the NUM LOCK, once again, was no longer on.
     
    Update.  It came back up.  I was getting back into posting here again, when it rebooted on it's own again.
     



    k it's time to consider reinstalling the OS.
     
    And i guess the question of why, should be answered.
     
    i'd guess that the many times u pulled the power cord out when ur Desktop froze, may be one possible reason as to why u need to reinstall ur OS; but it's just one of them. Too many others to list. Just say congratz! u made it this far on ur 1st build without re-installing the OS. After all, u configured everything too. And that wasn't easy.
     
    and maybe 1st, something called SFC (System File Checker) and CHKDSK (CheckDisk), should be mentioned. Feel free to try them.
     
    And before a complete reinstall of the OS; maybe attempting a Repair of ur OS is also possible.
     
    There's many things to consider -- but backing up stuff comes 1st.
     
    So a backup scheme is wat u would need. u'd start by considering if u'd like to have something like all the contents of ur "My Documents Folder", things on ur Desktop, Internet Browser Settings and Bookmarks, etc. (But there's always things that u wish u had also backed up but u missed out on doing so.)
     
    And a little more confidence-wise is... that ur PC was fine in Safe-Mode doing the clean vid driver installation? Meaning it never froze or randomly rebooted in safe-mode? if yes, then that's a good sign ur Hardware is AOK.
     
    Bottem line:
    After backing-up stuff, reinstall ur OS from scratch.
     
     
    GL
     
     
     

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/13 06:12:29 (permalink)
    Bee_Dee_3_Dee
     
    i'd guess that the many times u pulled the power cord out when ur Desktop froze, may be one possible reason as to why u need to reinstall ur OS; but it's just one of them. Too many others to list. Just say congratz! u made it this far on ur 1st build without re-installing the OS. After all, u configured everything too. And that wasn't easy.
     



    Raven...can you confirm if you were unplugging the power cord or the keyboard? Your first post makes me think it was the keyboard.
     
    RAVENEVGA
    So,...I did the clean install, yesterday.  
     
    A few moments ago, while in a game, my computer decided to randomly restart.  When it started, the NUM LOCK, once again, was no longer on.
     
    Update.  It came back up.  I was getting back into posting here again, when it rebooted on it's own again.

     
    I think we need to understand more about this rebooting. So before it was freezing, but now the system just reboots? like it full shuts down and starts booting again all by itself? That sounds more like the power supply tripped. If Windows crashed and rebooted, there generally would have been a blue screen that popped up and gave some kind of error message, then rebooted.
     
    I really want to know what your event viewer says because the information may be in there. If it's a Windows corruption, there should be an error message. If the power supply just tripped, it might have fully turned off the system and then let it boot back up again. Then everything would look normal until the power failure.
     
    Between the freeze you experienced earlier and the sudden reboots, I think it is possible that you have a PSU that can't keep up with fluctuating power demands from the GPU. I'm not positive, and I'm not saying it is impossible that your operating system is corrupt, but I really don't think the evidence points in that direction from my perspective. Just out of curiosity, how do you have your GPU plugged in? Does it have 3 separate cables going back to the power supply? That can help a little bit with current sharing and prevent some of the voltage dip, compared to when you have two cables and one is a "daisy chained" cable with two 6+2-pin plugs going to the graphics card and a single 8-pin going to the power supply.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/13 14:46:12 (permalink)
    So, I got home from work, and came in here to reply.  Got a few lines down.....then the system froze.    I was about to push and hold the power button, then the system started to restart on its own [probably better than holding the power button, I suppose].  During the restart, Windows updated something, restarted again, and now here we are.  
     
    Anyway, to answer a few questions, whenever anything stopped working, I definitely never pulled the power cord.  Just the keyboard chord from the USB slot, then back in.  
     
    Not sure why the unexpected restarting.  And not sure if that has anything to do with the PSU.  
     
    The GPU is using three separate power cables to the PSU. 
     
    I really hope it doesn't have anything to do with needing the OS reinstalled.  I've downloaded quite a few things, including my DAW music software.  Ugh...this is a pain in the butt.

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/14 03:40:42 (permalink)
    Have you looked at the event viewer messages? Do you ever get a blue screen with an error code when it reboots?

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    Re: A few quirks for my system. 2022/09/14 11:22:30 (permalink)
    Do you have hwinfo set to open at startup? I was having random lockups then reboots with later bioses and having hwinfo open while another app (3dmark, cpuz) checks memory settings seems to have been the cause. Removing hwinfo from opening at startup has solved so many issues I've had with my z690 kp.

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