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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 16:37:20 (permalink)
Hi guys! Does anyone know the radiator fans Air Flow CFM specs of the Kingpin?
 
I will like to upgrade them with higher flow fans. Any recommendations?


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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 17:33:20 (permalink)
Actually super interested as well about that, I have a 2 rad (420) that I want to setup and can do either 2 loop or a a single big one with 2 serial pump (2 DDC here). And if single loop what is best for the pump? On serial like CptT95 mentioned or in parallel at a single point?

Or it just doesn't matter.

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 19:24:51 (permalink)
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Hi guys! Does anyone know the radiator fans Air Flow CFM specs of the Kingpin?

I will like to upgrade them with higher flow fans. Any recommendations?

I know the Corsair ML120 pros push some serious air, but they aren't RGB, RGB means different fan blade design/material so lower specs and speed
Noctua makes good fans it seems, I keep seeing everyone posting that they use noctua fans 😆
Whatever you do, don't use the stock fans for the KP hybrid, they are pretty crappy, ofc most who bought this card, will have their own fans they will use/buy
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 19:30:28 (permalink)
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Actually super interested as well about that, I have a 2 rad (420) that I want to setup and can do either 2 loop or a a single big one with 2 serial pump (2 DDC here). And if single loop what is best for the pump? On serial like CptT95 mentioned or in parallel at a single point?

Or it just doesn't matter.

Not familiar with DDC, in fact this is my first time getting into custom loop
I have a D5 pump, and it's pretty good, even though I somehow messed up the RPM signal, it still receives pwm signal so I used a splitter that uses on out of three connections for rpm signal
It is nice and quiet and pushes quite a bit of water
I currently have an Optimus cpu block, asus mobo built in ekwb VRM block, Hardware Labs GTS 360 and SR2 MP 360 and there is only a one degree difference between the two rads I have between vrm block and res return, even at low rpm
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 19:44:46 (permalink)
Same first loop as well. Got a 5800x with a monoblock, and a South bridge block, with ram as well (I just like the look) all EK. But kind of too much restriction... Maybe. Which is why I got a second DDC for the extra block when my KP will find it's new home... But as you I wonder for what's best single versus dual loop. Dual I would use red and green colors for each team 😜 but if there is a real difference temp wise... I'd rather keep it cooler.
post edited by Fayalite - 2021/05/22 20:27:33

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/22 23:45:58 (permalink)
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Same first loop as well. Got a 5800x with a monoblock, and a South bridge block, with ram as well (I just like the look) all EK. But kind of too much restriction... Maybe. Which is why I got a second DDC for the extra block when my KP will find it's new home... But as you I wonder for what's best single versus dual loop. Dual I would use red and green colors for each team 😜 but if there is a real difference temp wise... I'd rather keep it cooler.



I would imagine completely separate loops would always perform slightly better in terms of temperatures, but there has to be a pretty big point of diminishing returns if you setup a single loop with enough radiator size & enough fan-cooling on them.  I'm really looking forward to comparing notes with more folks that have a similar amount of radiator-size to myself in terms of what temperatures they see vs mine.

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 00:17:00 (permalink)
Make sense... I will go purely for the look then and dual it is 🤣

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 03:49:44 (permalink)
I'm thinking one big loop for ease of draining, with drain being hidden at bottom of case behind the bottom rad, there is alot of space between the bottom rad and the mobo tray
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 06:26:35 (permalink)
Back on the fan topic, you guys should watch these vids if you haven't before buying,
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Zis8RjcX8
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ6W-b45wZ0
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7azFtJDT8
 
 
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 08:22:19 (permalink)
Idk how ml120 fans are now, but my ml120 pro can do all the way down to like 400-500 rpm
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 11:29:39 (permalink)
I’ve been out of it, has this been posted in here yet?
 
Optimus Active cooled backplate for Kingpin
 

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 11:38:33 (permalink)
Yeah I mentioned about that recently in one of these threads..... so many threads 😆🤣
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/23 11:40:34 (permalink)
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https://twitter.com/Initi...93562379909226496?s=20
😒🤔

Yeah posted here 😐
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 07:59:15 (permalink)
How thick is the backplate for the kp ?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 10:26:24 (permalink)
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How thick is the backplate for the kp ?


And also is it the same one for the HC version? I guess it is, but rather double check.

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 11:19:08 (permalink)
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-120x120x2mm-Conductive-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B08Z7WLRH4
 
Is one of this enough to repad front and back memory of the 3090 KPE HC or should I get 2? (120x120mmx2mm)
 
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 15:24:22 (permalink)
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https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-120x120x2mm-Conductive-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B08Z7WLRH4
 
Is one of this enough to repad front and back memory of the 3090 KPE HC or should I get 2? (120x120mmx2mm)
 
Thank you


I used 2x of the smaller packs of 2mm and 1x of the smaller pack of 1.5mm.  It was just enough. 
 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YYJ299Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 17:43:25 (permalink)
Quick question, is it normal for the fan speed to be uncontrollable in the LN2 Bios?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 18:00:14 (permalink)
no that's not normal, is that Hybrid KP?
seems like wrong bios if fans aren't working right, did you update it recently?
It could just be out of date, or need a restart to work out the bug
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 18:16:30 (permalink)
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https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-120x120x2mm-Conductive-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B08Z7WLRH4
 
Is one of this enough to repad front and back memory of the 3090 KPE HC or should I get 2? (120x120mmx2mm)
 
Thank you


I used 2x of the smaller packs of 2mm and 1x of the smaller pack of 1.5mm.  It was just enough. 
 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YYJ299Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 




Agreed, you'll need 2 of the 2mm to do both sides VRAM chips for sure, 1 is barely enough for one side - be sure you don't mess up any cuts, you barely have enough excess to do a section if you mess up, from what I remember.
 
rygaul44
Quick question, is it normal for the fan speed to be uncontrollable in the LN2 Bios?




Definitely not normal to have no fan control.  What are you using, Afterburner or Precision?  I assume we're talking about a non-HC card?

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 20:11:11 (permalink)
Yeah it's the kingpin hybrid, and I found out my problem. I forgot to plug in one of the fans during install causing the 2 that were plugged in to run at full speed and not register in X1. After plugging it in, all is well!
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 21:09:59 (permalink)
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Yeah it's the kingpin hybrid, and I found out my problem. I forgot to plug in one of the fans during install causing the 2 that were plugged in to run at full speed and not register in X1. After plugging it in, all is well!


little bugger lol, always the small things that are the issues
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 21:19:34 (permalink)
Right?! Now if I can figure out the classified tool. I really want to just get the most out of a 24/7 overclock I can. Not super interested in benching, although I'll probably still do some. Should I be overclocking as normal before I use the classified tool or should I jump straight to the tool?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 23:36:59 (permalink)

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 23:42:10 (permalink)
Hum... I am not sure about that daisy chain PCIe power. If you can take 2 separate cables you should consider it. But that's a lot of cooling power 😜

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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 23:51:34 (permalink)
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Hum... I am not sure about that daisy chain PCIe power. If you can take 2 separate cables you should consider it. But that's a lot of cooling power 😜



I gave up waiting and bought a prebuilt from MicroCenter
 
That's a scalper bought EVGA low end in a MicroCenter box with a 5900x and 850 EVGA Supernova
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/25 23:55:20 (permalink)
Also, that WaThai cooler is no joke. It busted the end of my finger. Be careful
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)? 2021/05/26 03:45:45 (permalink)
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