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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 17:32:03 (permalink)
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Go here and grab the 3080 Ti Hybrid bios. EVGA just put this up today. Of coarse save your bios before you flash.
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx


Yea now that I think about it, the XC3 still isn't on TPU AFAIK. So would have to use it. But still important to back up the original with NVFlash or GPUZ.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 18:18:17 (permalink)
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Well no matter what the reason, I would try harder to get EVGA tech to look at it. Other than flashing a different bios, there's nothing you can do yourself.

But if you do that, you should use NVFlash manually and save your original bios so you can restore it back on the card if you end up RMAing it.



before I think about flashing the BIOS to one from another model, I would like to find anyone with a 3080ti XC3 (any model, air/hybrid/HC) to see if anyone can replicate this behavior.
 
kram36
Go here and grab the 3080 Ti Hybrid bios. EVGA just put this up yesterday. Of coarse save your bios before you flash.
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx


I'm not sure I should flash the hybrid BIOS, the regular air one would be just as well, no?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 18:20:36 (permalink)
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Well no matter what the reason, I would try harder to get EVGA tech to look at it. Other than flashing a different bios, there's nothing you can do yourself.

But if you do that, you should use NVFlash manually and save your original bios so you can restore it back on the card if you end up RMAing it.



before I think about flashing the BIOS to one from another model, I would like to find anyone with a 3080ti XC3 (any model, air/hybrid/HC) to see if anyone can replicate this behavior.
 
kram36
Go here and grab the 3080 Ti Hybrid bios. EVGA just put this up yesterday. Of coarse save your bios before you flash.
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx


I'm not sure I should flash the hybrid BIOS, the regular air one would be just as well, no?


Somebody posted today over in that overclockers thread I linked that had one. Might want to try there.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 18:23:19 (permalink)
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Well no matter what the reason, I would try harder to get EVGA tech to look at it. Other than flashing a different bios, there's nothing you can do yourself.

But if you do that, you should use NVFlash manually and save your original bios so you can restore it back on the card if you end up RMAing it.



before I think about flashing the BIOS to one from another model, I would like to find anyone with a 3080ti XC3 (any model, air/hybrid/HC) to see if anyone can replicate this behavior.
 
kram36
Go here and grab the 3080 Ti Hybrid bios. EVGA just put this up yesterday. Of coarse save your bios before you flash.
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx


I'm not sure I should flash the hybrid BIOS, the regular air one would be just as well, no?


I didn't see a bios for the air version at that link? I don't think it would matter anyways.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 18:44:51 (permalink)
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I didn't see a bios for the air version at that link? I don't think it would matter anyways.

in the first post
 
4th option under the 3080ti section. click the 2nd spoiler window to expand. showing the air cooled card BIOSes. this subsection is mislabelled as "3090", but contains the default (air-cooled) 3080ti BIOS

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/24 18:55:35 (permalink)
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I didn't see a bios for the air version at that link? I don't think it would matter anyways.

in the first post
 
4th option under the 3080ti section. click the 2nd spoiler window to expand. showing the air cooled card BIOSes. this subsection is mislabelled as "3090", but contains the default (air-cooled) 3080ti BIOS


Sweet, thanks for pointing that out. Maybe I'll get a Blue Ribbon for pointing it out to them?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/25 04:27:48 (permalink)
and now with EVGA_Lee's post, I'm a little hesitant to flash to another card's BIOS.
 
I hope someone with a 3080ti XC3 can pop in and try to verify this is happening on their cards too.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/25 04:31:31 (permalink)
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and now with EVGA_Lee's post, I'm a little hesitant to flash to another card's BIOS.
 
I hope someone with a 3080ti XC3 can pop in and try to verify this is happening on their cards too.


Good thing you inquired about it. I'd tell ya, but EVGA hasn't sent out enough cards to cover the first 7 min of the queue.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/25 04:36:07 (permalink)
yeah I know :(. I put out a feeler on overclock.net, and I'll probably make a post on reddit as well.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/25 09:51:42 (permalink)
You should point EVGATech_LeeM to this thread.
 
Never mind, I sent him a pm on this thread.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/25 10:45:49 (permalink)
I sent some screenshots to support@evga.com yesterday evening but so far no one has responded.
 
It seems impossible to find anyone with a 3080ti XC3 to attempt to verify findings. everyone has the FTW3 model. even though people have responded to getting 3080ti XC3 models in the tracking threads, no one has responded to this request for testing. I've made a post on r/EVGA on reddit also, some upvotes, but no comments. 
 
I would like to attempt to flash a known-good BIOS for the HC card. so I hope EVGA_Lee can source it to add to the other thread. even though support over the phone didnt think that would help. I would like to try to cross it off the list. I've definitely experienced firmware issues in the past where there was some bug or glitch in the original BIOS that reflashing a fresh copy of the same one fixed. So I'd like to attempt that.
 
After that, I think EVGA needs to get someone knowlegable to take a closer look at the BIOS contents to make sure it's doing what it's supposed to be doing. I understand that customer service and level 1 tech support probably don't know the specifics, but I hope they can at least escalate it to the people that know about this stuff rather than writing me off.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/26 21:52:51 (permalink)
I said screw it and bought the xc3 hc from a scalper and it should be here Monday. Thankfully I only paid about 250$ over msrp. I'm definitely hoping I don't run into these problems. I will test it out after I get it connected to my loop. Hopefully someone else can confirm before then.
post edited by xReason - 2021/06/26 21:53:54
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/26 21:57:14 (permalink)
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I said screw it and bought the xc3 hc from a scalper and it should be here Monday. Thankfully I only paid about 250$ over msrp. I'm definitely hoping I don't run into these problems. I will test it out after I get it connected to my loop. Hopefully someone else can confirm before then.


Heh... might be some hope in the market yet. That is not that unreasonable for someone else to go through the hassle to get one.. and be successful. Good luck.
Not pro scalping... but... that's almost a good deal.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 06:15:29 (permalink)
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I said screw it and bought the xc3 hc from a scalper and it should be here Monday. Thankfully I only paid about 250$ over msrp. I'm definitely hoping I don't run into these problems. I will test it out after I get it connected to my loop. Hopefully someone else can confirm before then.


Thanks,
 
I look forward to hearing your results. I really need another data point to compare.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 16:33:33 (permalink)
Ok soooo bad news bro.
 
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I ran Time Spy Extreme and checked hwinfo64 and it showed 349.226 watts as my maximum. Did you have a firmware update when you first got the card? I installed x1 before this test and I was prompted to upgrade the 3080ti firmware. I dunno if that made a difference or not but yea I'm not having the same problem.
 
 
 
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I said screw it and bought the xc3 hc from a scalper and it should be here Monday. Thankfully I only paid about 250$ over msrp. I'm definitely hoping I don't run into these problems. I will test it out after I get it connected to my loop. Hopefully someone else can confirm before then.


Heh... might be some hope in the market yet. That is not that unreasonable for someone else to go through the hassle to get one.. and be successful. Good luck.
Not pro scalping... but... that's almost a good deal.


 
 
Seriously, I was so happy for it. Prices are definitely dropping, you can get 3070 ti ftw for like 1k and I've even seen one or two for under 1k and msrp for that is like 800$
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 18:08:29 (permalink)
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Ok soooo bad news bro.
 
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I ran Time Spy Extreme and checked hwinfo64 and it showed 349.226 watts as my maximum. Did you have a firmware update when you first got the card? I installed x1 before this test and I was prompted to upgrade the 3080ti firmware. I dunno if that made a difference or not but yea I'm not having the same problem.



yes I did the firmware update. but that would have no impact anyway, the PX1 firmware updates are for fans and RGB. nothing to do with the clocks or power.
 
what BIOS version do you have on the card? (read with GPUz). Mine is 94.02.71.00.BC, can you dump your BIOS with GPUz?
 
what was your timespy extreme score? can you link to the result?
how much power is used when you run furmark? with clock speeds.
how much power is used when you run MSI combustor? with clock speeds.
post edited by gsrcrxsi - 2021/06/28 18:15:25

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 18:59:49 (permalink)
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Ok soooo bad news bro.
 
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I ran Time Spy Extreme and checked hwinfo64 and it showed 349.226 watts as my maximum. Did you have a firmware update when you first got the card? I installed x1 before this test and I was prompted to upgrade the 3080ti firmware. I dunno if that made a difference or not but yea I'm not having the same problem.



yes I did the firmware update. but that would have no impact anyway, the PX1 firmware updates are for fans and RGB. nothing to do with the clocks or power.
 
what BIOS version do you have on the card? (read with GPUz). Mine is 94.02.71.00.BC, can you dump your BIOS with GPUz?
 
what was your timespy extreme score? can you link to the result?
how much power is used when you run furmark? with clock speeds.
how much power is used when you run MSI combustor? with clock speeds.




I have the same bios version as you but I went ahead and dumped it.
 
Timespy
Kombuster 4k fullscreen = max watts 347 in hwinfo64 though on afterburner I saw it go up to 353. Clock was 1740/1755
 
Furmark didn't push it as hard. 322 wats 1200 clock.
 
This was with +100 core clock and +580 on mem in afterburner
 
This is a screenshot of gpu z running kombuster stress test GL msi-01 @ 4k wth +0 on core clock

post edited by xReason - 2021/06/28 20:11:14
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 20:56:57 (permalink)
What about average power values. Not just spikes/peaks. Does it look like it’s hanging around a lower value consistently with occasional spikes to ~350W, or hanging around 350W all the time?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 21:19:08 (permalink)
It's staying at 340-350 during the test.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/28 22:40:22 (permalink)
Is that with the power slider at 100% or max?


 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/29 00:37:09 (permalink)
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Is that with the power slider at 100% or max?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/29 08:00:35 (permalink)
xReason, Thanks for the info and testing. it certainly seems like you are not experiencing the same issue, and you're not being as power limited as I am.
 
I tried the 3080ti XC3 Hybrid BIOS via the override installer from the stickied thread. It didnt change anything for me.
I also even flashed the 3080ti XC3 HC BIOS that xReason provided (using nvflash) and it works fine, still recognized as the right card in Precision X1, but no change to my symptoms.
 
I'm don't think it will make any difference, But I'm going to attempt to replace the motherboard (Asrock X570M Pro4) and PSU (Corsair TX850M) just to cover all possible options if I can avoid an RMA.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/29 21:14:31 (permalink)
swapped in a brand new EVGA 1200W P2, seems a little better, but no where near where it should be, and hard to tell if it's just a placebo. 

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 06:59:41 (permalink)
well it seems this card is going to have to be RMA'd anyway, for a different reason now).
 
woke up this morning to the RGB on the waterblock non-functional. I had it set for static color on both the block and the terminal. this morning the terminal was totally off and the block was kind of a white/rainbowy look. rebooted the system and the white block part just turned off. tried unplugging the GPU and plugging back in, still nothing. Precision sees the presence of the RGB, but trying to change them just does nothing.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 07:15:16 (permalink)
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well it seems this card is going to have to be RMA'd anyway, for a different reason now).
 
woke up this morning to the RGB on the waterblock non-functional. I had it set for static color on both the block and the terminal. this morning the terminal was totally off and the block was kind of a white/rainbowy look. rebooted the system and the white block part just turned off. tried unplugging the GPU and plugging back in, still nothing. Precision sees the presence of the RGB, but trying to change them just does nothing.


That's actually a good thing. A lot easier to convince them you need to RMA for a visible problem with the RGB.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 07:27:42 (permalink)
I was really trying to avoid an RMA as much as possible. if only for not having to mess with my water loop again. :(

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Rig2: EPYC 7402P | 7x EVGA RTX 2080Ti XC Ultra
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 07:29:51 (permalink)
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EVGA has made adjustments to BIOS’ of other models of cards to fix power issues like this. No reason they couldn’t or shouldn’t try to fix this one.



Not really - they actually lowered the limit on the PCIe slot so none of their cards will go out of spec on the PCIe slot.  There's nothing you can do except flashing the BIOS if you can find one with higher limits on the PCIe slot but that was killing cards previously so its not a good idea.  If you want more power budget you need to get a 3 connector card instead and preferably the Kingpin.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 07:33:58 (permalink)
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EVGA has made adjustments to BIOS’ of other models of cards to fix power issues like this. No reason they couldn’t or shouldn’t try to fix this one.



Not really - they actually lowered the limit on the PCIe slot so none of their cards will go out of spec on the PCIe slot.  There's nothing you can do except flashing the BIOS if you can find one with higher limits on the PCIe slot but that was killing cards previously so its not a good idea.  If you want more power budget you need to get a 3 connector card instead and preferably the Kingpin.


unfortunately you have to take what you can get. I did enter queues for FTW3 cards, but I got in earliest on this model by pure luck.
 
but the "3-connector" cards are only available in the taller FTW3 variants, and those wont fit in my case anyway (O11D) without mounting vertical, which I do not want to do to allow me to access the other expansion slots. even the XC3 HC card is only like 3/4" from the side panel, the FTW3 is like an inch taller, and Kingpin even more so. Also Kingpin only available in 3090, we're talking the 3080ti here.
 
but it's clear that something is "off" with this card's power managment and performance. it's being artificially limited lower than where it should be. as seen by xReason's results using the same exact card. his card allows more power to be pulled from the PCIe cables to get it up to the full power limit of 350W, and proportionally more performance. I'm not trying to get the card to pull 400+W like the FTW3 cards, I just want it to allow full performance from it's default 350W, which right now it is not doing.
post edited by gsrcrxsi - 2021/06/30 07:38:07

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 08:23:54 (permalink)
You could try some other manufacturers bios. But I would give that a small chance of success unless the XC3 is somehow more compatible with other manufacturers than the 3080ti FTW3. I've tried a bunch of them on my FTW3. Most show crazy power balancing (and hence even lower effective PL) and poor stability.

But it wouldn't hurt to try unless you are going to RMA for the RGB anyway. Pulling a little more power from the PCIE probably won't hurt the card. Plenty of cards max at around 75-80w with no issues.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/06/30 09:01:34 (permalink)
yeah at this point, I'll probably just RMA. I'm not going to mess with it anymore. I'll call support later today to see if maybe there's a way to force a firmware update to try to bring back the RGB function (Precision X1 doesn't prompt for it, I see no option to force it) but if not, I wont bother anything else. It's not like RGB is super important to me, I just don't want to deal with something obviously broken on a $1500 product.
 

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Main: 5950X | EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra HC
Rig1: EPYC 7502 | 7x ASUS RTX 2080 (watercooled)
Rig2: EPYC 7402P | 7x EVGA RTX 2080Ti XC Ultra
Rig3: EPYC 7402P | 8x EVGA RTX 2070 Black
Rig4: 2x EPYC 7642 | EVGA RTX 2080Ti Black
 
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