EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico
@ gsrcrxsi,

Is the beta bios secretive? Can it be shared/ posted?

I asked gsrcrxsi not to share the BIOS only because it's still beta, and I'm not sure that it's particularly effective at this stage. 
 
Currently, I only have a BIOS for 3955 (XC3 ULTRA) and 3955 (XC3 HC).  I'd rather wait until a few people with these cards see if it makes any improvement before people start spreading it around.  Nothing more than that.

It’s nice to see the techs are involved. Thanks for trying to troubleshoot the matter.

Tricerakash
Well what do you need from people with those cards?

Sent you the HC BIOS.  Test it with benchmarks or games, see if there's a difference.  As noted, I haven't seen much improvement with this BIOS, but let us know what you see.

EVGATech_LeeM

Tricerakash
Well what do you need from people with those cards?

Sent you the HC BIOS.  Test it with benchmarks or games, see if there's a difference.  As noted, I haven't seen much improvement with this BIOS, but let us know what you see.

Hello LeeM, what abotu FTW3 users who see their cards hitting a hard stop at 400W and clocks and voltages drop? 
 
https://forums.evga.com/People-that-got-their-3080tiNeed-Data-for-Powerdraw-Between-3-Power-connectorsIMPORTANT-m3381956-p7.aspx
 
 

KingEngineRevUp

EVGATech_LeeM

Tricerakash
Well what do you need from people with those cards?

Sent you the HC BIOS.  Test it with benchmarks or games, see if there's a difference.  As noted, I haven't seen much improvement with this BIOS, but let us know what you see.

Hello LeeM, what abotu FTW3 users who see their cards hitting a hard stop at 400W and clocks and voltages drop? 
 
https://forums.evga.com/People-that-got-their-3080tiNeed-Data-for-Powerdraw-Between-3-Power-connectorsIMPORTANT-m3381956-p7.aspx

To be honest, I haven't followed this one at all.  I'll try to take a look this week or early next week.

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico
@ gsrcrxsi,

Is the beta bios secretive? Can it be shared/ posted?

I asked gsrcrxsi not to share the BIOS only because it's still beta, and I'm not sure that it's particularly effective at this stage. 
 
Currently, I only have a BIOS for 3955 (XC3 ULTRA) and 3955 (XC3 HC).  I'd rather wait until a few people with these cards see if it makes any improvement before people start spreading it around.  Nothing more than that.

Hi EVGATech_LeeM,

Ty for answering. It is appreciated that you took your time to respond but can you provide the same bios to Kram? It will be helpful to see if he sees any improvement.
His GPU definitely needs some improvement compare to gsrcrxsi

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico
Hi EVGATech_LeeM,

Ty for answering. It is appreciated that you took your time to respond but can you provide the same bios to Kram? It will be helpful to see if he sees any improvement.
His GPU definitely needs some improvement compare to gsrcrxsi

Kram reached out to me, and I provided him the BIOS already.

😯. Thank you for the prompt reply EVGATech_LeeM😎👍
It is good to know that EVGA is working on the issue or should I say EVGATech_LeeM is working on it🤔

Xal3R

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico
Hi EVGATech_LeeM,

Ty for answering. It is appreciated that you took your time to respond but can you provide the same bios to Kram? It will be helpful to see if he sees any improvement.
His GPU definitely needs some improvement compare to gsrcrxsi

Kram reached out to me, and I provided him the BIOS already.

Can I have it? Although my limit may not be that bad (HWinfo shows peaking 360W with 105%), I'd be still curious to see if there are any improvements. I can't seem to post links yet, the best I could get in Time Spy - if it works htt ps://www.3d mark.com/spy/21818718 - Graphics Score 20 153
I am up for anything to improve (sadly XC3 card was the only available one in EU that I could find...).

Sorry to say but your gpu peak watts is 360w? Kram GPU doesn't even shows that. This is the reason why Kram needs a better bios

EVGATech_LeeM

Xal3R

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico
Hi EVGATech_LeeM,

Ty for answering. It is appreciated that you took your time to respond but can you provide the same bios to Kram? It will be helpful to see if he sees any improvement.
His GPU definitely needs some improvement compare to gsrcrxsi

Kram reached out to me, and I provided him the BIOS already.

Can I have it? Although my limit may not be that bad (HWinfo shows peaking 360W with 105%), I'd be still curious to see if there are any improvements. I can't seem to post links yet, the best I could get in Time Spy - if it works htt ps://www.3d mark.com/spy/21818718 - Graphics Score 20 153
I am up for anything to improve (sadly XC3 card was the only available one in EU that I could find...).

Actually, 360W is great.  The max you can even get is 366W on a 3080 Ti XC3, so there isn't really a reason to test a different BIOS.

I guess is safe to say the beta bios window of testing is closed till the new one comes😁

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico

EVGATech_LeeM
Actually, 360W is great.  The max you can even get is 366W on a 3080 Ti XC3, so there isn't really a reason to test a different BIOS.

I guess is safe to say the beta bios window of testing is closed till the new one comes😁

Not really.  It's more that I have a random card on my test bench that pulls the same wattage (actually, a few W more), tested it with the BIOS, and saw no improvement (couldn't really see where improvement would come from, either).  If the issue is that the card isn't pulling enough wattage, you won't see anything when you're already hitting close to the max.

If you say so😅. what I have noticed the distribution of wattage is not balance well. The voltage regulator, if you can call it that, is having problems in making a decision whether the GPU Core, or the memory needs it the most. In another words, there is not an established amount distribute to the GPU and the memory at the same time.

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico

EVGATech_LeeM
Not really.  It's more that I have a random card on my test bench that pulls the same wattage (actually, a few W more), tested it with the BIOS, and saw no improvement (couldn't really see where improvement would come from, either).  If the issue is that the card isn't pulling enough wattage, you won't see anything when you're already hitting close to the max.

If you say so😅. what I have noticed the distribution of wattage is not balance well. The voltage regulator, if you can call it that, is having problems in making a decision whether the GPU Core, or the memory needs it the most. In another words, there is not an established amount distribute to the GPU and the memory at the same time.

I'm not suggesting all cards behave similar to the card on my bench or Xal3r's.  Even with all the people posting in this thread, it's still a limited sample size of how cards behave under different conditions.  Trust me, it would be much easier to look into any issues if 98% of all cards behaved the same way.  Unfortunately, it rarely works out that way.

Anyways, thanks for looking into it and giving us updates on it.

kram36

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico

EVGATech_LeeM
Actually, 360W is great.  The max you can even get is 366W on a 3080 Ti XC3, so there isn't really a reason to test a different BIOS.

I guess is safe to say the beta bios window of testing is closed till the new one comes😁

Not really.  It's more that I have a random card on my test bench that pulls the same wattage (actually, a few W more), tested it with the BIOS, and saw no improvement (couldn't really see where improvement would come from, either).  If the issue is that the card isn't pulling enough wattage, you won't see anything when you're already hitting close to the max.

Yeah, I'm not seeing much of benefit with the beta bios, still low on power. What's weird is I have the card in a different system that has an older version of Windows 10 with driver 471.11 on a i5-9500T system and with regular bios or beta bios I'm getting slightly better graphic scores than my i9-10940X system lol. Putting my info together, will post the results shortly.

🤔 interesting find, older system better scores? something is not right at all. 

atfrico

kram36

EVGATech_LeeM

atfrico

EVGATech_LeeM
Actually, 360W is great.  The max you can even get is 366W on a 3080 Ti XC3, so there isn't really a reason to test a different BIOS.

I guess is safe to say the beta bios window of testing is closed till the new one comes😁

Not really.  It's more that I have a random card on my test bench that pulls the same wattage (actually, a few W more), tested it with the BIOS, and saw no improvement (couldn't really see where improvement would come from, either).  If the issue is that the card isn't pulling enough wattage, you won't see anything when you're already hitting close to the max.

Yeah, I'm not seeing much of benefit with the beta bios, still low on power. What's weird is I have the card in a different system that has an older version of Windows 10 with driver 471.11 on a i5-9500T system and with regular bios or beta bios I'm getting slightly better graphic scores than my i9-10940X system lol. Putting my info together, will post the results shortly.

🤔 interesting find, older system better scores? something is not right at all. 

Just a quick glimpse, have pictures too of the i5-9500T runs.
 
Stock with the slider maxed out as EVGATech_LeeM instructed.
 
Time Spy regular bios graphic score 18,474 beta bios graphic score 18,539 regular bios i9-10940X graphic score 18,451
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21822804/spy/21823236/spy/21648387
 
Overclock +150 GPU +1,000 Memory with slider maxed out as EVGATech_LeeM instructed.
 
Time Spy regular bios graphic score 19,059 beta bios graphic score 18,711 regular bios i9-10940X graphic score 18,893
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21822983/spy/21823372/spy/21649388
 
Stock with the slider maxed out as EVGATech_LeeM instructed.
 
Port Royal regular bios score 12,430 beta bios score 12,446 regular bios i9-10940X score 12,367
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/1148820/pr/1148860/pr/1136681
 
Overclock +150 GPU +1,000 Memory with slider maxed out as EVGATech_LeeM instructed.
 
Port Royal regular bios score 12,874 beta bios score 12,829 regular bios i9-10940X score 12,742
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/1148780/pr/1148882/pr/1136708

Looks like a bit more power is coming out with the beta, happy to see that =)

 
Using a 3950x with 64gb 3200mhz ram
Stock run with beta bios
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21829695
 
https://postimg.cc/gjwNz8, much better than the stock one for me.
 
Starting to see numbers over 300w
https://postimg.cc/kD6Wy70d
 
Furmark is the same, oddly it uses 300w+ but the clock is only at like 890mhz.
https://postimg.cc/K41vkzdt
 
 
Kombustor wouldn't let me take a full screenshot, but the power draw hasn't changed, it drew this much wattage on the stock bios, oddly this draws the most wattage consistently
https://postimg.cc/KR4qyX3G
 
Heaven 4.0 was being weird about screenshots but it also had a high power draw, I saw 350W flash for a second. Overall it had a higher power draw. 
 
The beta bios seems to have increased the idle voltage on stock if you have the GPU set to Prefer Maximum Performance in the Nvidia control panel it. I saw a jump from 800mv to 900mv.
 
The beta bios seems to have brought more heat with it, which seems normal. I have seen an increase of 3-5c while under these synthetic loads. if possible would @EVGATech_LeeM be able to tell us more about the water block?

 
 
 
 
 
 

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