wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.
 

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.
 

There are so many things that affect that score by a few hundred points that have nothing to do with the hardware itself. To tell someone their card is crap because of that score difference is just plain misleading. Don't mislead people to further your agenda.

talon951

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.
 

There are so many things that affect that score by a few hundred points that have nothing to do with the hardware itself. To tell someone their card is crap because of that score difference is just plain misleading. Don't mislead people to further your agenda.

speedysloth

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.
 

That user's score is within component tolerance variance and equal to an FE.

https://www.guru3d.com/ar...edition-review,25.html

https://www.overclockersc...founders_edition/3.htm

https://hothardware.com/r...-3080-ti-review?page=2

https://arstechnica.com/g...00-less-theoretically/

Just because Jay posted that score that doesn't mean it's the norm. I understand you're not happy with the card kram but you're essentially skewing the information regarding this card towards your own opinion.

Those are stock FE scores, his is overclocked and can't match a Stock FE card. If you don't own the card, then get out of the thread and stop making excuses for EVGA's crap card.

kram36

talon951

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.

19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.

There are so many things that affect that score by a few hundred points that have nothing to do with the hardware itself. To tell someone their card is crap because of that score difference is just plain misleading. Don't mislead people to further your agenda.

speedysloth

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.

19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.

That user's score is within component tolerance variance and equal to an FE.









Just because Jay posted that score that doesn't mean it's the norm. I understand you're not happy with the card kram but you're essentially skewing the information regarding this card towards your own opinion.

Those are stock FE scores, his is overclocked and can't match a Stock FE card. If you don't own the card, then get out of the thread and stop making excuses for EVGA's crap card.

There really are so many variables here. The minor benchmark score differences really aren't much to worry about for me, they aren't going to matter in the real world. I'm running a 4+ year old i7-7700k z270 system. I'm sure that number would be higher if I were running something newer too.

wiredsix2

Sir_Sizzle77

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Would you mind posting a link for Port Royal results at stock gpu settings? Thanks.

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1141788

Thanks!

wiredsix2

kram36

talon951

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.

19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.

There are so many things that affect that score by a few hundred points that have nothing to do with the hardware itself. To tell someone their card is crap because of that score difference is just plain misleading. Don't mislead people to further your agenda.

speedysloth

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.

19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.

That user's score is within component tolerance variance and equal to an FE.









Just because Jay posted that score that doesn't mean it's the norm. I understand you're not happy with the card kram but you're essentially skewing the information regarding this card towards your own opinion.

Those are stock FE scores, his is overclocked and can't match a Stock FE card. If you don't own the card, then get out of the thread and stop making excuses for EVGA's crap card.

There really are so many variables here. The minor benchmark score differences really aren't much to worry about for me, they aren't going to matter in the real world. I'm running a 4+ year old i7-7700k z270 system. I'm sure that number would be higher if I were running something newer too.

That was my point before. There are a lot of things that influence that score. I had been running my 3080ti FTW3 on my old 4790k system. The mobo took a dump a few days ago so I put my 3900x in that machine (5800x replaced it in another machine). Check out how much I gained.

https://www.3dmark.com/co.../21710654/spy/21455757

And if you look closely you'll see I was running the Galax XOC with the 4790k and the stock bios for the 3900x run. Not only that, I ran the 3900x run on bios defaults last night right after I got it running (XMP not enabled, etc.. .) so my cpu score is low for that processor.

kram36
I don't know why you want to bring a FTW3 into this thread. I'll entertain your game.
 
Your overclocked FTW3 against the best oc my XC3 Hydro Copper can do. Your card's graphics score is 13.1% better than my card and my card still isn't beating a stock FE card.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21710654/spy/21648694

You missed my point.  Doesn't matter which card (XC3 or FTW3), TimeSpy has a decent amount of CPU dependence as I'm illustrating in my comparison of my runs.  The person I replied to, which wasn't you, was saying that their score would likely be higher with a newer CPU/mobo.  All recent reviews are done on the newest generations of cpus, so comparing an XC3 running a 7th gen Intel to a FE card probably running on 9th or 10th gen isn't really a fair comparison when we're quibbling over a few hundred points in Timespy.

talon951

kram36
I don't know why you want to bring a FTW3 into this thread. I'll entertain your game.
 
Your overclocked FTW3 against the best oc my XC3 Hydro Copper can do. Your card's graphics score is 13.1% better than my card and my card still isn't beating a stock FE card.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21710654/spy/21648694

You missed my point.  Doesn't matter which card (XC3 or FTW3), TimeSpy has a decent amount of CPU dependence as I'm illustrating in my comparison of my runs.  The person I replied to, which wasn't you, was saying that their score would likely be higher with a newer CPU/mobo.  All recent reviews are done on the newest generations of cpus, so comparing an XC3 running a 7th gen Intel to a FE card probably running on 9th or 10th gen isn't really a fair comparison when we're quibbling over a few hundred points in Timespy.

Then stop using Time Spy and use Port Royal.
 

ObscureEmpyre

talon951

kram36
I don't know why you want to bring a FTW3 into this thread. I'll entertain your game.
 
Your overclocked FTW3 against the best oc my XC3 Hydro Copper can do. Your card's graphics score is 13.1% better than my card and my card still isn't beating a stock FE card.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21710654/spy/21648694

You missed my point.  Doesn't matter which card (XC3 or FTW3), TimeSpy has a decent amount of CPU dependence as I'm illustrating in my comparison of my runs.  The person I replied to, which wasn't you, was saying that their score would likely be higher with a newer CPU/mobo.  All recent reviews are done on the newest generations of cpus, so comparing an XC3 running a 7th gen Intel to a FE card probably running on 9th or 10th gen isn't really a fair comparison when we're quibbling over a few hundred points in Timespy.

To be fair, I don’t think his CPU is the issue. While mine is a FTW3 card, my CPU is a 9900K and Kram’s 10940X still beats it.

https://www.3dmark.com/co.../21701419/spy/21652985

Exactly, someone is using their head.

talon951
What does a FTW3 card beating an XC3 have to do with this at all? Of course it does. It's a faster card. It's supposed to be faster.

You're the one that brought the FTW3 into this thread.
 
Anyways, look at the XC3's average clock speed.

talon951

kram36

wiredsix2
No issues with the one I just installed. I see it hitting near 350w.
 
19287 graphic score stock with timespy

Your card isn't fine. You're not even matching a stock 3080 Ti FE card.

There are so many things that affect that score by a few hundred points that have nothing to do with the hardware itself. To tell someone their card is crap because of that score difference is just plain misleading. Don't mislead people to further your agenda.

This. I almost passed on a 3080ti xc3 because of kram bashing this card so heavily. But, the sample size here is really small to determine how widespread the low power issue is. I also don't consider 2-5% below 3080 ti FE "crap". I am not sure where it is published that the FE card is the lowest possible performance you should expect, even for cards sold at the budget tier. 
 
This thread reminds me of Amazon product reviews. You have 5 star reviews and 1 star reviews. If someone has a bad experience for whatever reason, they will likely leave a 1 star review. You have to determine if whatever issue they describe is valid and/or would matter to you. The difference is on Amazon I just have to see that 1 star review once, not spammed over and over again while trying to read the other reviewer's experiences.

steven-1979
Starting to wonder if they've been using trash-binned gpu's for the xc3 line and have to put the cap in just to stop them from failing.

It seems likely that the FTW3 cards (which are overclocked the highest) get the best silicon. And the XC3 gaming that isn't overclocked at all would get the lowest. It is possible that some of the lowest are a bit further out of spec than is acceptable to people. I am not sure what guaranteed level of boost clock comes on the card, other than the rather low 1665MHz listed on the product page.
 
When I bought my AMD 5600X, my max boost clock was 4350MHz single core. I opened an RMA ticket with AMD and they replaced my CPU with one that hit 4650. Their product spec only says Max Boost Clock: Up to 4.6GHz, but they didn't hassle me about swapping out my lower performing one.
 
I do not know what the boost clock expectations are for this part from EVGA, but it is possible if you get one that is significantly lower than what everyone else is getting that they may RMA it. Or maybe it is considered within spec and silicon lottery tough luck. If so, sell on eBay for at least what you paid for it (likely more) and try again.

talon951

kram36

talon951
What does a FTW3 card beating an XC3 have to do with this at all? Of course it does. It's a faster card. It's supposed to be faster.

You're the one that brought the FTW3 into this thread.
 
Anyways, look at the XC3's average clock speed.

You've just got your panties in a bunch over not buying a FTW3. Lol

I have a 3080 Ti FTW3 card too and that card is rock solid with great performance. Try again?

I'm so pissed off with 3080 ftw3 ultra power problems, and then I see this... The worst thing is that they do not come across with any comments.

GTXMan
Just want to say thanks for this thread. I recently bought a "FTW3 Ultra Hydrocopper" which turned out to be a XC3 HC. Basically the guy either messed up the ebay listing or maybe it was a poor scam attempt but when I showed up to pay, it was a XC3 and ultimately it was no harm, no foul. He offered to reduce the cost, I considered it briefly as the HC is my first choice and if it weren't for this thread, I almost certainly would have agreed. My 2080Ti is a XC gaming and an absolute beast.
 
Then I quickly remembered this thread, gave it back and found a sealed FTW3, albeit fan version, the next day for $1550 on Craigslist. I have experience putting on blocks so it's not a big deal that I didn't get a HC.

Thanks again.

You will be much happier with the FTW3 card.

Cats4Life
Just ran my benchmark, got 19081 as the graphics score with my air cooled 3080 ti xc3. 

Would you mind posting a link for Port Royal with stock gpu settings?  OC on gpu too if you feel like it.