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2020/12/19 05:53:12 (permalink)
Instructions on how to update BIOS for a Hybrid Kit conversion is a bit of a gap in the installation instructions and the answer is buried across several threads.  I'm creating this one to hopefully help others who are wondering how they should flash their BIOS to convert an air XC3/FTW3 to a Hybrid, BIOS-wise.  If anyone has any corrections, please by all means let me know and I'll update this post.
  1. download the appropriate .zip for your card that Jacob linked in this post
  2. shut down, make sure switch is in Normal position, boot
  3. flash the Normal bios from the zip, make sure to run as admin / elevated prompt
  4. shut down, flip switch to OC position, boot back up
  5. flash the OC bios from the zip as admin
  6. shut down, leave switch in OC position, boot
  7. optionally, for FTWs, flash the HYBRID XOC bios from the sticky thread as admin (3080) (3090)
  8. shutdown, boot back up
It now displays 'GeForce RTX 3090 FTW ULTRA HYBRID' and only 2 fans in PX1, like it would with a "real" hybrid.
post edited by tobincake1471 - 2020/12/19 07:06:55
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/19 06:59:35 (permalink)
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/19 07:06:29 (permalink)
    Hey man thank you for this, really appreciate it. I will be getting my kit soon hopefully as finally snagged one from evga eBay because I live in the AU. Very good write up. Thanks again.
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/19 07:15:31 (permalink)
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/22 05:42:49 (permalink)
    tobincake1471
    Instructions on how to update BIOS for a Hybrid Kit conversion is a bit of a gap in the installation instructions and the answer is buried across several threads.  I'm creating this one to hopefully help others who are wondering how they should flash their BIOS to convert an air XC3/FTW3 to a Hybrid, BIOS-wise.  If anyone has any corrections, please by all means let me know and I'll update this post.
    1. download the appropriate .zip for your card that
    2. shut down, make sure switch is in Normal position, boot
    3. flash the Normal bios from the zip, make sure to run as admin / elevated prompt
    4. shut down, flip switch to OC position, boot back up
    5. flash the OC bios from the zip as admin
    6. shut down, leave switch in OC position, boot
    7. optionally, for FTWs, flash the HYBRID XOC bios from the sticky thread as admin () ()
    8. shutdown, boot back up
    It now displays 'GeForce RTX 3090 FTW ULTRA HYBRID' and only 2 fans in PX1, like it would with a "real" hybrid.


    common sense
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/23 05:27:12 (permalink)
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    tobincake1471
    Instructions on how to update BIOS for a Hybrid Kit conversion is a bit of a gap in the installation instructions and the answer is buried across several threads.  I'm creating this one to hopefully help others who are wondering how they should flash their BIOS to convert an air XC3/FTW3 to a Hybrid, BIOS-wise.  If anyone has any corrections, please by all means let me know and I'll update this post.
    1. download the appropriate .zip for your card that
    2. shut down, make sure switch is in Normal position, boot
    3. flash the Normal bios from the zip, make sure to run as admin / elevated prompt
    4. shut down, flip switch to OC position, boot back up
    5. flash the OC bios from the zip as admin
    6. shut down, leave switch in OC position, boot
    7. optionally, for FTWs, flash the HYBRID XOC bios from the sticky thread as admin () ()
    8. shutdown, boot back up
    It now displays 'GeForce RTX 3090 FTW ULTRA HYBRID' and only 2 fans in PX1, like it would with a "real" hybrid.


    common sense




    Isn't very common anymore... 
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/26 09:18:23 (permalink)
    new to this stuff, but trying to do my due diligence. 
     
    I tried flashing the Hybrid OC to my system and it says it cannot find any compatible display drivers. The stock and OC bios' flashed just fine... I saw someone saying you need to use NVFLASH to get it to take.. but how do I get the provided files in .ROM? 
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 06:51:36 (permalink)
    Thanks for making this guide. I am about to start doing mine and needed to know how to do this
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 07:14:23 (permalink)
    Do you really need this for hybrid kit?What's gonna happen if you did not flash this BIOS to your FTW3 Ultra Gaming card?
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 08:20:23 (permalink)
    I installed the XC3 Hybrid kit on my 3080 XC3 Ultra. Massive improvement in temperatures, thank you EVGA for continuing to make these affordable kits, so much better than expensive custom loops. I upgrade every generation and I'll continue buying your brand as long as affordable watercooling is available.
     
    I started getting hard shutdowns during high GPU load. Is it possible the card wasn't accounting for pump and 2x120mm fan power draw? 8-pin 12v readings were in the 12.1-12.3 range. I'm using a Corsair AX760 Platinum PSU. I flashed the Hybrid bios to see if it would make a difference (couldn't find the BIOS switch to flash the secondary). No hard shutdowns yet but the voltage readings are weird, 12v rails are reading 7.7-9v in HWiNFO64. I tried flashing back to the stock XC3 Ultra bios and it says "No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update."
     
    I'm also seeing high idle power consumption, 180-220W. 
    post edited by shiznit - 2020/12/27 10:39:44
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 10:43:48 (permalink)
    shiznit
    I installed the XC3 Hybrid kit on my 3080 XC3 Ultra. Massive improvement in temperatures, thank you EVGA for continuing to make these affordable kits, so much better than expensive custom loops. I upgrade every generation and I'll continue buying your brand as long as affordable watercooling is available.
     
    I started getting hard shutdowns during high GPU load. Is it possible the card wasn't accounting for pump and 2x120mm fan power draw? 8-pin 12v readings were in the 12.1-12.3 range. I'm using a Corsair AX760 Platinum PSU. I flashed the Hybrid bios to see if it would make a difference (couldn't find the BIOS switch to flash the secondary). No hard shutdowns yet but the voltage readings are weird, 12v rails are reading 7.7-9v in HWiNFO64. I tried flashing back to the stock XC3 Ultra bios and it says "No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update."
     
    I'm also seeing high idle power consumption, 180-220W. 


    Interesting, did the hard shutdown happen before or after installing the Hybrid BIOS?

    Also, confirm if the voltage readings are also the same when seeing using GPU-Z instead of HWiNFO...
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 11:09:15 (permalink)
    Didn't he said "I started getting hard shutdowns during high GPU load. Is it possible the card wasn't accounting for pump and 2x120mm fan power draw? 8-pin 12v readings were in the 12.1-12.3 range. I'm using a Corsair AX760 Platinum PSU. I flashed the Hybrid bios to see if it would make a difference (couldn't find the BIOS switch to flash the secondary). No hard shutdowns yet but the voltage readings are weird, 12v rails are reading 7.7-9v in HWiNFO64. I tried flashing back to the stock XC3 Ultra bios and it says "No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update."You saw it,right?
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 11:17:00 (permalink)
    I edited my original post for clarity, sorry for any confusion.
     
    I got the hard shutdowns with the original XC3 Bios, they stopped with the Hybrid XC3 bios. I tried going down to 80% power limit in case it was a some fluke with the pump+rad fan power draw but it still did a hard shutdown.
     
    Using the Hybrid bios, the low 8-pin voltage readings and high idle power show up in both GPU-Z and HWiNFO64, I can provide screenshots if you'd like.
     
    I just put in the Asus 3070 I was using as a stopgap, the 8-pin voltages and idle power are showing normal.
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 12:56:50 (permalink)
    Screenshot attached. I doubt this is correct, the temp wouldn't be 26C if the chip was pulling 85W.

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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 13:12:49 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info. The card is not going into 3D mode. That’s why you are having the low power consumption. Ok, so this may sound unrelated, but could you try to DDU and re-install drivers from scratch?

    Otherwise, I would advise to revise all the connections for the hybrid kit and contact tech support.
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 13:18:05 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the info. The card is not going into 3D mode. That’s why you are having the low power consumption. Ok, so this may sound unrelated, but could you try to DDU and re-install drivers from scratch?

    Otherwise, I would advise to revise all the connections for the hybrid kit and contact tech support.

    I'll contact them tomorrow morning after when they open. I'll dry wiping the drivers but I doubt it will help, I just put in and took out the 3070 which was reporting everything normally without touching the drivers. Here's a screenshot in 3d mode, TDP watts and percentage look correct.
    post edited by shiznit - 2020/12/27 13:24:23

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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/27 13:58:45 (permalink)
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    new to this stuff, but trying to do my due diligence. 
     
    I tried flashing the Hybrid OC to my system and it says it cannot find any compatible display drivers. The stock and OC bios' flashed just fine... I saw someone saying you need to use NVFLASH to get it to take.. but how do I get the provided files in .ROM? 


    I'm not sure about needing to use NVFLASH, I was just able to use the .exe (as admin) and it flashed the XOC bios correctly.  Sorry I couldn't offer anything helpful, other than maybe 2x check that you're running with elevated privileges.
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/28 10:20:27 (permalink)
    It seems the Hybrid XC3 bios is bugged. I flashed the Hybrid FTW bios (with capped power limit to stay within 2x8pin limits) and the voltages look normal:
     
     
    post edited by shiznit - 2020/12/28 10:37:50

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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 10:58:28 (permalink)
    shiznit
    It seems the Hybrid XC3 bios is bugged. I flashed the Hybrid FTW bios (with capped power limit to stay within 2x8pin limits) and the voltages look normal:
     
     


    Hello, well I can confirm I am in the same boat as you. I flashed the BIOS to the hybrid, then PX1 said they needed to flash BIOS to new version.

    Now I am getting the same wrong voltages. Also the card won’t boost past 1950mhz don’t matter how high I boost. Frustrating because I got my card on air to boost to 2040mhz just fine...

    Edit: I forgot to add, I did DDU, and re-installed both PX1 and MSI AB. Also ran tests disabling bunch of apps to make sure...
    post edited by selarom - 2020/12/29 11:04:33
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 11:07:33 (permalink)
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    It seems the Hybrid XC3 bios is bugged. I flashed the Hybrid FTW bios (with capped power limit to stay within 2x8pin limits) and the voltages look normal:
     
     


    Hello, well I can confirm I am in the same boat as you. I flashed the BIOS to the hybrid, then PX1 said they needed to flash BIOS to new version.

    Now I am getting the same wrong voltages. Also the card won’t boost past 1950mhz don’t matter how high I boost. Frustrating because I got my card on air to boost to 2040mhz just fine...

    Edit: I forgot to add, I did DDU, and re-installed both PX1 and MSI AB. Also ran tests disabling bunch of apps to make sure...

    Just to be sure - only running one at a time, right?  either PX1 or MSI AB?
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 12:01:07 (permalink)
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    shiznit
    It seems the Hybrid XC3 bios is bugged. I flashed the Hybrid FTW bios (with capped power limit to stay within 2x8pin limits) and the voltages look normal:




    Hello, well I can confirm I am in the same boat as you. I flashed the BIOS to the hybrid, then PX1 said they needed to flash BIOS to new version.

    Now I am getting the same wrong voltages. Also the card won’t boost past 1950mhz don’t matter how high I boost. Frustrating because I got my card on air to boost to 2040mhz just fine...

    Edit: I forgot to add, I did DDU, and re-installed both PX1 and MSI AB. Also ran tests disabling bunch of apps to make sure...

    Just to be sure - only running one at a time, right?  either PX1 or MSI AB?


    Yes, only using one at a time.
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 12:40:44 (permalink)
    Did you flash this BIOS on OC or on Normal mode?
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 13:46:18 (permalink)
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    Did you flash this BIOS on OC or on Normal mode?


    There are two BIOS for the XC3 Ultra? Based on the file linked by Jacob on the other thread, there was only one file. I assumed the normal and OC versions were meant for the FTW3 model and the dual BIOS switches
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 14:04:16 (permalink)
    Sorry!!My BAD!!I thought you were using FTW3!!!Well!! I still want to let you know that on FTW3 version after installed HB Kit without using this bios,my RTX FTW3 3080 on OC mode OC itself up to 2070Mhz.NO HARD SHUT DOWN!!!Running the Time Spy Extreme DX12 for testing!!!B4 without this HB kit whenever my card OC above 2000Mhz i got black screen,crashed,restarted windows and BSOD!!!
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/29 14:13:37 (permalink)
    Ah crap! Really? Wow. Sorry dude.. Mine hasn’t crashed. I was hoping to get my card flashed with the FTW3 BIOS, but I guess .... nevermind
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/30 11:46:09 (permalink)
    Hello All!
     
    I flashed the BIOS to the stock XC3 Ultra Hybrid BIOS and it fixed the voltage reading issue and also my clockspeed issue as well. Before it would not let boost clock reach over 1930mhz or so.... very frustrating, now is fine!
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/30 12:19:26 (permalink)
    I am also having issues with the 3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios.  I installed the hybrid kit on my XC3 Ultra and flashed the bios using the .exe posted in the link at the top of this forum page, but after flashing, both HWInfo and GPU-Z showed an idle power draw of about 190W just from the GPU.  My AX1200i, however, showed a total system power draw of only 100W while my system was idle.  Clearly, something was off with idle power reading coming from the graphics card.  Moreover, my Timespy, Firestrike, and Port Royal scores were all worse than my stock 3080 XC3 Ultra (temps never broke 50C).  I actually had to undervolt the hybrid card just to get the hybrid's performance to match my stock performance.  I read through this post, and just now flashed back to the XC3 Ultra bios (non-hybrid variant) from Tech PowerUp.  The idle power now reads 38W and my Timespy and Firestrike scores went up by 250+ points each (max temp of 54C).  Flashing back to the stock XC3 Ultra bios seems to have fixed my issues.  Clearly something is amiss with the hybrid bios--at least for cards where a hybrid kit was installed (I can't speak for hybrids bought directly from EVGA).
    post edited by mcsands59 - 2020/12/30 13:30:18

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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/30 18:59:20 (permalink)
    Look for the 3080 xc3 ultra hybrid BIOS on techpowerup. It will show the BIOS that comes stock with the hybrid cards from factory. That BIOS fixes the issues plus shows the card corrrectly as a Hybrid card
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/30 20:01:05 (permalink)
    Thanks for the heads up!  This fixed my problem, and the card now shows up as a proper hybrid.  Just an FYI for anyone else in the same situation.  There are two 3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios files on Tech PowerUp.  The one that fixes the incorrect voltage readout is the bios dated from November (not December).  Both bios files are in the unverified bios section.

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    PSU:  Corsair AX1200i
    MB:  ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero
    Case:  Corsair 680x RGB
    OS Drive:  1TB Samsung 960 EVO
    Game Drive:  2x 1TB Samsung 870 QVO (RAID 0)
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    Re: 3080 / 3090 Hybrid Kit BIOS Conversion Steps 2020/12/30 22:09:48 (permalink)
    hi all
    i installed the kit on my ftw3 ultra, downloaded the 3080 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS. I am running precision 1.1.4 so the cards firmware is up to date with the Ultra XOC 450 watt bios.
    I ran as admin.
    Got this error.
     
    ERROR: Unable to set-up NVFLASH driver (0x00000005)
    Detailed :Access is denied.

    Please note this error and contact your display adapter manufacturer's
    technical support line.  It is important that you leave your system ON and NOT
    reboot until instructed by your manufacturer on how to proceed.

    Press any key to exit...
     
    anyone ? thanks for any help.
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