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2019/08/09 11:02:00 (permalink)
Just installed a Hydro Copper water block on my 2080 ti FTW3 and I'm seeing max temps around 59-60C.  It that normal for this card?  I'm using a large 480 mm rad.
 
 
 
 
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 11:05:00 (permalink)
    This is what I see on my Pre-Installed Cards.
     

     

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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 11:20:10 (permalink)
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    Just installed a Hydro Copper water block on my 2080 ti FTW3 and I'm seeing max temps around 59-60C.  It that normal for this card?  I'm using a large 480 mm rad.

     
    Is that idle temp? Or under load? If its under load than make sure that you run your stress test or benchmark for about 1HR to fully heat soak your loop. 

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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 11:21:48 (permalink)
    @bcavnaugh did you mod your card? how are you hitting 413w? 
     

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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 11:23:59 (permalink)
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    Just installed a Hydro Copper water block on my 2080 ti FTW3 and I'm seeing max temps around 59-60C.  It that normal for this card?  I'm using a large 480 mm rad.
     




    Seems warm for a single GPU on a 480 Rad
    How thick & fin count of yor Rad ?
     
    Fans & RPM ?

    Pump speed ?
     
    Room Temp ?
     
    Anything else in your loop - CPU ?
     
     

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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 11:47:20 (permalink)
    I don’t know what EVGA support considers “normal” for a HC card, but the OPs temps are much higher than what I would expect for a full cover waterblock. 45c is higher than I would expect.

    There are a few threads here regarding the HC blocks and high temps.

    Info here: https://forums.evga.com/S...-ti-ftw3-m2927051.aspx
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 12:03:23 (permalink)
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    Just installed a Hydro Copper water block on my 2080 ti FTW3 and I'm seeing max temps around 59-60C.  It that normal for this card?  I'm using a large 480 mm rad.
     




    Seems warm for a single GPU on a 480 Rad
    How thick & fin count of yor Rad ?
     
    Fans & RPM ?

    Pump speed ?
     
    Room Temp ?
     
    Anything else in your loop - CPU ?
     
     




    The 59-60C temp is under load for about 10 minutes.  The pump/fans (Corsair Hydro X) are at 100% for testing.  The room temp is 22 C.  Currently, only the GPU is on the loop.  What's strange is that the memory temps are great...about 20 - 25 C less than when on the air cooler.  I applied the thermal paste in an x pattern.  I'm thinking about reapplying by spreading a thin layer over the GPU.  What do you think?
     
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 12:29:34 (permalink)
    Spreading a thin layer over the GPU Die and the Water Block is best.
    Are you using XL5 Performance Coolant?
    In iCUE what are you setting the Pump to and what is the Flow Rate?
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 12:32:10 (permalink)
    I use the spread method
     
    Those spring screw assemblies do not exert much force by design. *(for air coolers & Hybrids)  *Do not use them with water blocks - be careful when tightening
    You must establish proper contact before tightening the mounting hardware & have the thermal pads & wires out of the way

    Keeping the cooler parallel & against the GPU die - is very important
    - Clean
    - Apply TIM & Pads
    - Route & connect wires
    - Align & lay cooler on Card
    - Install All screws loosely
    - Tighten the GPU (4) screws - gradually in an X pattern - keep it parallel (flat against the GPU die)
    - Work outwards from GPU die to tighten the rest of the screws - (working gradually in the X pattern)
     
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 13:28:42 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info guys!  I've removed the block.  Check out the TIM in these photos!  There's a big gap in the middle.  Does everyone agree that's the source of my issue?  I plan to use the spread method.  How thin should it be applied?  And what's the best method for spreading the TIM?
     
     
     

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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/09 20:42:54 (permalink)
    No, because its the sum of the two halves that matter. The gap in the middle is made up for by the greater quantity on the die. 
     
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    Those spring screw assemblies do not exert much force by design.

     
    How do you figure that a screw spring assembly which is fully tightened exerts less force? A spring/screw assembly which is fully collapsed isn't going to exert less force than a screw. I mean, these are all like M2 screws, you aren't going to be able to exert that much force at all without breaking them. 
     
    I can't see when the manual for the HC blocks says to use the spring screws anyway. 
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/400-HC-1589-B1.pdf
     
    On the KPE cards, the spring screws mount the AIO cold plate. This uses the inner 4 mount holes. With the HC blocks, these holes are now the bracket which surrounds the die. The large holes on the backplate along the innder 4 mount holes would allow for the larger heads of the spring screws. This is not present on the outer mount holes. 
     
     
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 06:58:21 (permalink)
    After reapplying TIM and re-seating the block, I'm now seeing max temps around 42 C.  I took care to first tighten in an X pattern around the GPU and work outward as suggested.  Noob mistake on the initial install I suppose.  Just wanted to thank everyone for their insightful input!
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 07:18:06 (permalink)
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    After reapplying TIM and re-seating the block, I'm now seeing max temps around 42 C.  I took care to first tighten in an X pattern around the GPU and work outward as suggested.  Noob mistake on the initial install I suppose.  Just wanted to thank everyone for their insightful input!



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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 11:18:44 (permalink)
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    After reapplying TIM and re-seating the block, I'm now seeing max temps around 42 C.  I took care to first tighten in an X pattern around the GPU and work outward as suggested.  Noob mistake on the initial install I suppose.  Just wanted to thank everyone for their insightful input!




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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 11:44:21 (permalink)
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    No, because its the sum of the two halves that matter. The gap in the middle is made up for by the greater quantity on the die. 
     
    @ Cool GTX
     
    Those spring screw assemblies do not exert much force by design.

     
    How do you figure that a screw spring assembly which is fully tightened exerts less force? A spring/screw assembly which is fully collapsed isn't going to exert less force than a screw. I mean, these are all like M2 screws, you aren't going to be able to exert that much force at all without breaking them. 
     
    I can't see when the manual for the HC blocks says to use the spring screws anyway. 
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/400-HC-1589-B1.pdf
     
    On the KPE cards, the spring screws mount the AIO cold plate. This uses the inner 4 mount holes. With the HC blocks, these holes are now the bracket which surrounds the die. The large holes on the backplate along the innder 4 mount holes would allow for the larger heads of the spring screws. This is not present on the outer mount holes. 
     
     


     
     
    * Screws are included for the Hydro Copper water Block - Do Not use the Stock spring Screws - be careful when tightening
     
     
     
    Glad you got a better contact & temp 
     
    *edit for clarity


    edit 2 EVGA Hydro Copper manual
     
     
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 17:24:32 (permalink)
    With a 42c GPU temp, what is your ambient? That's still higher than one would expect for a water cooled GPU. 
     
    The Springs presses the Block against the GPU die .... NOT the screw .... keeping it flat is key

     
    That really didn't answer the question. How would a fully collapsed spring exert less force?
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 17:35:36 (permalink)
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    With a 42c GPU temp, what is your ambient? That's still higher than one would expect for a water cooled GPU. 
     
    The Springs presses the Block against the GPU die .... NOT the screw .... keeping it flat is key

     
    That really didn't answer the question. How would a fully collapsed spring exert less force?


    Ambient is around 23c. Are you sure my load temps should be lower? What are your temps? Also, the person that replied first to my post gets 45c on factory installed blocks.
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    Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Waterblock temp question 2019/08/10 18:21:08 (permalink)
    Who is using the Spring Screws with the Hydro Copper Water Block?

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