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2019/02/26 20:55:56 (permalink)
So I just installed my hydro copper block on my 2080ti ftw3 ultra card and I am seeing super high temps on gpu1(74 degrees  3 seconds in heaven benchmark ) but on gpu2(53 max temp) im seeing good temps. The memory and power temps all stay below 50 degrees max. Did i do something wrong? Should I pull the card out and attempt to remount it. Im using thermal grizzly Kryonaught  thermal paste for gpu. Any help/advice will be much appreciated
 
 
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/26 21:26:25 (permalink)
Definitely take off the block to see how much contact you have with the die. My hydro copper block never gets past 49c.
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 08:11:30 (permalink)
Should I remove the old thermal pasteI I put on yesterday or just add some more?
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 08:17:49 (permalink)
You need to see if the block is making contact with the die. Look at the block and see if the thermal paste has transferred to it evenly. If you don't see much paste on the block than I would clean it off and remount the whole thing again. Use a good amount of paste and spread it over the whole die.
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 13:41:16 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2019/08/02 07:41:18
Ok I reseated the block and omg my temps dropped from mid 70s to at max 43 degrees in heaven benchmark. 🤗. Super excited to get some game play in now
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 13:50:39 (permalink)
glad it is sorted
 
 
Was the contact pattern - when you pulled it apart - the whole GPU covered ?  Not sitting Flat ?

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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 14:28:48 (permalink)
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/27 14:37:38 (permalink)
it was the contact pattern. It was only barely touching the gpu. I just added a little more thermal paste in the middle and bingo the temps dropped like a rock
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 04:28:23 (permalink)
Nice, glad you figured it out.
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 06:12:35 (permalink)
Wow my mem temps stay under 40 with this gpu waterblock on it. I can’t wait to overclock this card and see what it can do
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 06:36:37 (permalink)
40C RAM
 
describe your loop: Radiator(s) ..... fans ....

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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 06:51:42 (permalink)
Glad i read this thread so i know to check, i get my hydro today and can not wait to install it.   This will my first water cooling loop ever, just doing gpu right now.   
 
Shame there are no reviews or install videos on youtube for this model.
 
Do i really need to run 24hr leak test?
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 07:31:36 (permalink)
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Glad i read this thread so i know to check, i get my hydro today and can not wait to install it.   This will my first water cooling loop ever, just doing gpu right now.   
 
Shame there are no reviews or install videos on youtube for this model.
 
Do i really need to run 24hr leak test?




24 Hr leak test will catch the slowest of leaks
 
Will also allow you to get trapped air out of the loop
 
Remember - Nothing else has power during the leak test ---> Just the pump
 
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 08:22:47 (permalink)
Also make sure you put a good amount of thermal paste on the gpu itself. Make sure its a non conductive thermal paste. For the person who asked about my loop I bought a ready made PC minus the video card which I already had. I got the Aventum X from Digital Storm a company that builds computer to buyers specs. Here is a video of my pc https://youtu.be/oUoO3Ik8aIk . It has 15 fans . One 480 rad and another 360 Rad. It’s a beast. I wanted to load a pic but this forum won’t let me.
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 08:56:55 (permalink)
Why I Spread the Thermal Past on both the GPU Die and the Water Block.


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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 09:16:58 (permalink)
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Also make sure you put a good amount of thermal paste on the gpu itself. Make sure its a non conductive thermal paste. For the person who asked about my loop I bought a ready made PC minus the video card which I already had. I got the Aventum X from Digital Storm a company that builds computer to buyers specs. Here is a video of my pc https://youtu.be/oUoO3Ik8aIk . It has 15 fans . One 480 rad and another 360 Rad. It’s a beast. I wanted to load a pic but this forum won’t let me.



That's serious chuck of change there.  
 
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/02/28 09:33:01 (permalink)
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Why I Spread the Thermal Past on both the GPU Die and the Water Block.


Yup lesson learned!!!
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Re: Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/01 18:03:05 (permalink)
i am having same issue, 85c in heaven, CPU is fine. First i bought an EK GPU block and thought it was bad. reseated it 4 times with more and more paste but 85c it was. RMA'd it and while i was waiting for the replacement i found EVGA makes this so i ordered it. put it together, installed, filled system and burped and same damn thing 85c. i am going to pull it apart and do the spread on GPU and spread on Block method. When i had the AIO on the card max temp was around 68c, i figured custom loop would at least be below or at 60c
 
loop is res, GPU, CPU, Rad, Rad (both 360's) res. temp indicator on GPU in and 1 on CPU in both at 33c idle, and 38-40c load. Flow indicator reads RPM not L/M, but it is spinning at a good clip. 
 
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/01 19:06:04 (permalink)
ok, temps dropped 5c, this is just insane. Good flow, most likely more then enough thermal paste, i am about fed up with this.
 
 
 
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/01 21:21:26 (permalink)
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i am having same issue, 85c in heaven, CPU is fine. First i bought an EK GPU block and thought it was bad. reseated it 4 times with more and more paste but 85c it was. RMA'd it and while i was waiting for the replacement i found EVGA makes this so i ordered it. put it together, installed, filled system and burped and same damn thing 85c. i am going to pull it apart and do the spread on GPU and spread on Block method. When i had the AIO on the card max temp was around 68c, i figured custom loop would at least be below or at 60c
 
loop is res, GPU, CPU, Rad, Rad (both 360's) res. temp indicator on GPU in and 1 on CPU in both at 33c idle, and 38-40c load. Flow indicator reads RPM not L/M, but it is spinning at a good clip. 
 
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ok, temps dropped 5c, this is just insane. Good flow, most likely more then enough thermal paste, i am about fed up with this.
 


I would focus on the loop as it's clearly not the GPU or the WBs.
 
What fittings are you using?  I ask because they might have too long of a thread and that could block some flow going into the block.  I say this since there's so many fittings being sold today, including no names that could be out of spec as opposed to the name brand ones that have been out for a while.

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Re: [Re-Opened] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ftw3 2019/08/02 07:37:27 (permalink)
i am using EK fittings and i did the research prior to buying equipment and thread length was one of the topics. everything was EK when i started this process, the mono block, GPU block, pump, hose, fittings and fluid. i have since changed the CPU block to Phanteks PH-C350A_BK01 and changed the GPU block to the EVGA Copper. I do have a flow indicator but it measures RPM not L/M and as i change the speed of the pump i can see the RPM's changing and the spinner increasing speed so i do not believe flow is an issue. I also have temp reader on the GPU inlet and one on the CPU exit. The temps are only 1C apart, 32ish at idle, and max i have seen was 39c.
 
Seeing i am having the issue on the EK block and on the EVGA block i am pretty convinced that it is a user (me) issue. So here is the question, after taking apart and reassembling these GPU blocks like 10-15 times, what is the trick to making good contact between the block and the GPU? I know i am using way to much past (adding more and more as many times i have taken the blocks apart), so that is not an issue. 
 
 
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Re: [Re-Opened] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ftw3 2019/08/02 09:27:07 (permalink)
>>>>>>>>>>> Do Not Remove the Back Plate when installing the EVGA Hydro Copper Water Block <<<<<<<<<<<
Spread the Thermal Paste on both the GPU Die and the Water Block.
Place the Water Block on an even sold surface allowing the Slot Bracket and the Inlet/Outlet over the edge to allow the Water Block to lay Flat.
Place the PCB on Top of the Water Block Line up all the Screw Holes and Place the PCB Down on the Block.
Install all the Screws Half Way in Only until all the screws are in place.
Leave off the last Screw that uses the Nut.
Place Pressure on the Center of the Black Plate above the GPU Die and Hold this Pressure.
Screw in the all the Screw Flush in a Circle Clockwise or Counter Clockwise Circle but not tight until are screws are Flush.
#1 Keeping the Pressure on the Center of the Black Plate above the GPU Die Screw Down the Screws in a Counter Clockwise Circle or Clockwise Circle.
Repeat #1
Install the Screw & Nut now.
Keeping the Pressure on the Center of the Black Plate above the GPU Die Screw Down Tight all the Screws in a Circle Clockwise or Counter Clockwise Circle.
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/02 09:50:02 (permalink)
 I will try this again when i get home from work tonight. As i said, it is not a product issue and it is not a "not enough paste issue", it is a me issue, just need to get the contact right and get everything tightened down to keep that contact. keep your fingers crossed because i really want to get this block working in my system. 
 
I do have to give credit to EVGA though, this is a really nice GPU block. i really like it over the EK because it opens up the Fan and LED headers on the back of the card, EK block covered them up, plus i like the stock back plate better then the after market back plate. 
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/02 10:07:21 (permalink)
Every time you reapply TIM, clean it up all up and start over, if this was done disregard.  Try a small rice size on the GPU or spread it thin across it.  When putting the blocks together, try not moving it around or you'll create parts of the GPU without TIM.  Try your best on aligning the holes before making full contact so the movement is lessened.  

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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/02 10:13:23 (permalink)
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 I will try this again when i get home from work tonight. As i said, it is not a product issue and it is not a "not enough paste issue", it is a me issue, just need to get the contact right and get everything tightened down to keep that contact. keep your fingers crossed because i really want to get this block working in my system. 
 
I do have to give credit to EVGA though, this is a really nice GPU block. i really like it over the EK because it opens up the Fan and LED headers on the back of the card, EK block covered them up, plus i like the stock back plate better then the after market back plate. 

Yes it is a really nice Water Block


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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/04 12:21:55 (permalink)
good grief, i finally got it!! with 4 more tear downs since my last post. to whoever lands here as i have, pay attention. it is not a product flaw, and it is not the amount of paste applied. it is literally damn near perfect contact between the block and the GPU. This last time I cleaned paste up off the block, and GPU. Applied a thin layer and used the spread method on both surfaces. Before I tore it apart this last time, I went to Home Depot and got a smallish bar clamp with a 3.5” throat. I placed the assembled unit down, plexi to the table and made sure it was flat. Overhung the bracket to the left, and the water ports to the front. Started all the screws being sure to only go halfway in.  Grabbed my clamp and positioned it right smack in the middle of the 4 screws for the GPU bracket (I forgot to put this back on by the way) and clamped it down. I did not use too much pressure, I did not want the PCB to flex. Just enough to make positive and even contact of the GPU and the block. While clamp was in place, I proceeded to tighten the screws, around the GPU block first and then moved outward from there until all were tight.
 
Water pump at 40%, fans on both 360’s at 600RPM and max temp is 65, and I am now seeing the water temps rise and fall, I was not before. Fans and pump wide open and max temp I am seeing is 48c and that’s with a decent OC of clock at 2130 and mem at 7750. There is a 5 degree difference between water temp from water in at the GPU and water out at the CPU, water temps that make since. 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/06 12:23:22 (permalink)
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it is not a product flaw,
 

 
It is absolutely a product flaw if it requires the user to use a clamp when installing a waterblock onto a GPU. I fully agree with you assertion that the issue is with the contact between the cold plate and the GPU core. I believe the flaw is the positioning of the standoffs around the GPU (using the outer hole spacing) and the spacing of the block to the PCB in general. 
 
I don't know if that picture is old, but 50 C is very warm for a water block on a GPU. Sub 40 is MUCH more the norm for any reasonable ambient temp. 
 
After switching to a $60 EK Supremancy GPU block, my KPE card will stay under 40 during extended gaming sessions with its 2130 Mhz overclock. Before with the HC block...the $300 one...my results looked more like yours. 
 
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/07 07:28:03 (permalink)
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good grief, i finally got it!! with 4 more tear downs since my last post. to whoever lands here as i have, pay attention. it is not a product flaw, and it is not the amount of paste applied. it is literally damn near perfect contact between the block and the GPU. This last time I cleaned paste up off the block, and GPU. Applied a thin layer and used the spread method on both surfaces. Before I tore it apart this last time, I went to Home Depot and got a smallish bar clamp with a 3.5” throat. I placed the assembled unit down, plexi to the table and made sure it was flat. Overhung the bracket to the left, and the water ports to the front. Started all the screws being sure to only go halfway in.  Grabbed my clamp and positioned it right smack in the middle of the 4 screws for the GPU bracket (I forgot to put this back on by the way) and clamped it down. I did not use too much pressure, I did not want the PCB to flex. Just enough to make positive and even contact of the GPU and the block. While clamp was in place, I proceeded to tighten the screws, around the GPU block first and then moved outward from there until all were tight.
 
Water pump at 40%, fans on both 360’s at 600RPM and max temp is 65, and I am now seeing the water temps rise and fall, I was not before. Fans and pump wide open and max temp I am seeing is 48c and that’s with a decent OC of clock at 2130 and mem at 7750. There is a 5 degree difference between water temp from water in at the GPU and water out at the CPU, water temps that make since. 
 
 
 
 


Does it state this process in the instructions?  My mistake when installing my block (high temps too) was watching the EVGA youtube video on installing the block instead of using the instructions.  If this isnt in the instructions it may be helpful to put it there so people dont have this issue.  Everywhere i read no one seems to have issues with EK but they do in some cases with the Hydrocopper.  I'm not saying its a design flaw but maybe they should put this in as part of the install process to avoid these negative issues.
 
I will try and re-install mine like this and see if there is a difference.  Thanks for the advice. This is what ive been looking for!
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/07 07:39:31 (permalink)
I can't imagine a company recommending using a C-clamp to install a block.
 
I'm not trying to be overly harsh, but a max temp of 48 C at a 2130Mhz OC isn't indicative of good performance. Granted, without knowing the loop temperature and the ambient temperature its hard to judge. 
 
Its also hard to compare temps at various points in the loop as the variance between the sensors could easily account for the observable difference. 
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Re: [Solved] Hydro Copper GPU water block temps high on 2080 ti ftw3 2019/08/07 07:47:07 (permalink)


You must establish proper contact before tightening the mounting hardware & have the thermal pads & wires out of the way

Keeping the cooler parallel & against the GPU die - is very important, always been this way
- Clean
- Apply TIM & Pads
- Route & connect wires
- Align & lay cooler on Card
- Install All screws loosely
- Tighten the GPU (4) screws - gradually in an X pattern - keep it parallel (flat against the GPU die)
- Work outwards from GPU die to tighten the rest of the screws - (working gradually in the X pattern)
 
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