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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 15:38:49
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But the block will be much colder then the room temp? You dont have to insulate that or the card?
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 15:41:43
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But the block will be much colder then the room temp? You dont have to insulate that or the card?
manual_exc-450_d100eng.pdf Page 9 A Small Learning Curve to use it is all that would be needed and some Blue Shop Hand Towels for the most part. With these settings, it’s possible to set the liquid temperature below the environmental air temperature. If liquid temperatures reach the ambient dew point, condensation (water droplets) can form on tubing and cold plates connected to the chiller. Unless condensation is prepared for, it is recommended to keep the chiller on “LIQAMB” with a minimum value of 0°C (which keeps liquid at ambient). What I am going to be using Manual - manual_exc-800_d100eng.pdf
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 15:59:08
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The Dew point in the desert is probably going to be a very low temp, with the humidity being very low in the desert
@ KyleMP012
Any possibility you used screws that are too long or thermal pad placement & they are causing the gap between GPU & heatsink to be too big ?
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 16:03:46
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But the block will be much colder then the room temp? You dont have to insulate that or the card?
manual_exc-450_d100eng.pdf Page 9
A Small Learning Curve to use it is all that would be needed and some Blue Shop Hand Towels for the most part.
With these settings, it’s possible to set the liquid temperature below the environmental air temperature. If liquid temperatures reach the ambient dew point, condensation (water droplets) can form on tubing and cold plates connected to the chiller. Unless condensation is prepared for, it is recommended to keep the chiller on “LIQAMB” with a minimum value of 0°C (which keeps liquid at ambient).
What I am going to be using Manual - manual_exc-800_d100eng.pdf
That's pretty much the same thing people used years (20) ago. Cant remember the freaking name of it now. Promecia? Coolers? Expensive units that cane built into a case or you can install your case onto the unit and it had a long black hose with a CPU block you slap on the CPU to run temps well below 0. Always wanted one but crazy priced. People made there own with a compressor out of an old fridge hehe.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 16:26:30
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I really do not think that 20 Years ago we had this Technology for use in Computers in our homes.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 16:28:35
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I might have some old pics of it stored on a drive somewhere hehe.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 16:38:29
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I might have some old pics of it stored on a drive somewhere hehe.
I guess there is no need for me to post any of my finding are being it is 20 year old Technology  This is taking the Thread Off Topic.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 16:58:32
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Cool GTX
The Dew point in the desert is probably going to be a very low temp, with the humidity being very low in the desert
@ KyleMP012
Any possibility you used screws that are too long or thermal pad placement & they are causing the gap between GPU & heatsink to be too big ?
I used the screws that the kit said to use with a backplate, it did come with short screws for no backplate, I could try some of them to see of they thread in and bite more.....
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 17:07:02
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 18:47:53
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/05 18:47:53
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I might have some old pics of it stored on a drive somewhere hehe.
More Reviews Link
I guess there is no need for me to post any of my finding are being it is 20 year old Technology
From 10 Years Ago
The tech back then was called phase change. https://www.overclockers....nge-pc-cooling-system/http://www.ldcooling.com/shop/14-phase-changehttp://www.xtremesystems....r-Phase-Change-CoolingHere I'm sure is where it all began.. well where I first heard about it. Been many years since I've been on that site. Quick view I see threads started back in 2007.. but I've seen some reviews in 2006. So 13 years or more.. can do a search to see just how back it goes. Edit: the original manufacturer that started making phase change units was called Prometeia. They made a model called Mach 1 and Mach 2 GT. Anyways talk of someone wanting to have someone build him one I see all the way back In 2002. So that would be close to 17 years.. and if he's talking about it I'm sure the tech goes back further. http://www.xtremesystems....highlight=Phase+changeSure Vince and TiN would know what I'm talking about.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/08 12:11:27
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If it helps I have a EVGA RTX 2080ti FTW3 Ultra Hydro Copper. Ambient air temps vary between 72F and 76F depending on how long I am using my PC (thing is like a hair dryer when combined with my 9800x). My GPU boost frequency is 2145Mhz @ 1.093v temps stay below 60c.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/19 17:08:28
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I think I'm still having issues. So I don't think I exactly won the silicon lottery for starters. 1) I can't get the card to ever go above 2100mhz. It often sits around 2055mhz and then drops down to about 2010-1995mhz. 2) To sustain these frequencies the card needs about ~1.075V. 3)My GPU temp is about 51*C in 5 min and climbing. Water temp reaches about 40*C (equilibrium) it wont climb past that. GPU will climb to 60*C in about 20 min of heavy use. The card will crash instantly if I even attempt 2100. To manage all of this I have undervolted the card to 1980mhz at ~.98V, this maintains about 48-52*C after 1hr of gaming (around 1 game crash an hour). Ambient temps are around 26-30*C. I keep my power limit at 100%, and my core voltage at 0%. Memory is +1000mhz and stays around 45*C +/- 8*C. To recap the other specs are as follows.......
Monitor: LG 32GK650F 1440p 144hz
Case: Fractal Define S2
CPU: Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard: Crosshair VII Hero
RAM: G. SKILL Trident Z 3200mhz CL14
PSU: EVGA Supernova 1600w T2
CPU Cooling: EK Supremacy EVO
Pump: EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM
Radiators: 1X240 with 2 Noctua NF A12x25 (running at 100%) Push exhaust out top
1X360 with 3 EK Vardar F4 (Running at 90%) Push Intake Front
1X140mm Fan Exhaust out Back
Cooling Order: Pump-GPU-240-CPU-360-Reservoir
Should i consider an RMA, or are my expectations to high?
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:27:31
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Hey all, Using the HC have any of you have an issue where PX1 and GPUz state there is a fan connected and running? Sometimes it's not there and then it will go several boot ups with a phantom fan running, very sporadically.
I had thought it was just a PX1 issue until I opened up GPUZ to find that Fan 1 is always at 50%. In PX1 the fan goes from 0% to 3000% and everything in between. This leads me to believe that whatever is wrong is with the card itself.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:29:15
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Have you tried using msi Afterburner, much better than PX1 at this point in time
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:32:26
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My concern is for the phantom fan that isn't there and what could be causing it. Like I said, the fan shows up in gpu-z as well.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:33:50
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It is odd, I haven't seen the issue you are having, but does it really effect anything?
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:38:34
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I Just opened afterburner and it shows 2 fans are connected.
And no, it doesn't seem to affect anything.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/05/27 13:56:21
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I'm not positive but, It looks like having a RGB strip plugged in to the cards RGB header could be the cause of the weird phantom fan. I had a Phanteks glacier res/pump RGB strip plugged into it. I shut down and then unplugged it and no fans show. EDIT: Yes that seems to be the issue. Having an rgb strip plugged into the cards rgb header causes fans to be read when there are none. NOTE: It doesn't always happen when rgb header is in use, but it seems not to happen at all when not using the header.
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/06/24 09:43:21
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I think I'm still having issues. So I don't think I exactly won the silicon lottery for starters. 1) I can't get the card to ever go above 2100mhz. It often sits around 2055mhz and then drops down to about 2010-1995mhz. 2) To sustain these frequencies the card needs about ~1.075V. 3)My GPU temp is about 51*C in 5 min and climbing. Water temp reaches about 40*C (equilibrium) it wont climb past that. GPU will climb to 60*C in about 20 min of heavy use. The card will crash instantly if I even attempt 2100. To manage all of this I have undervolted the card to 1980mhz at ~.98V, this maintains about 48-52*C after 1hr of gaming (around 1 game crash an hour). Ambient temps are around 26-30*C. I keep my power limit at 100%, and my core voltage at 0%. Memory is +1000mhz and stays around 45*C +/- 8*C. To recap the other specs are as follows.......
Monitor: LG 32GK650F 1440p 144hz
Case: Fractal Define S2
CPU: Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard: Crosshair VII Hero
RAM: G. SKILL Trident Z 3200mhz CL14
PSU: EVGA Supernova 1600w T2
CPU Cooling: EK Supremacy EVO
Pump: EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM
Radiators: 1X240 with 2 Noctua NF A12x25 (running at 100%) Push exhaust out top
1X360 with 3 EK Vardar F4 (Running at 90%) Push Intake Front
1X140mm Fan Exhaust out Back
Cooling Order: Pump-GPU-240-CPU-360-Reservoir
Should i consider an RMA, or are my expectations to high?
What did you wind up doing? I'm having a similar experience with my blocked FTW3. It just won't stay cool. Water temp never above 35 dual 360's in a loop with a 9900k and card pushes 60 under load on all sensors (core, ram, VRM etc).
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Re: 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra installing Hydro Copper
2019/06/24 11:26:48
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KyleMP012
I think I'm still having issues. So I don't think I exactly won the silicon lottery for starters. 1) I can't get the card to ever go above 2100mhz. It often sits around 2055mhz and then drops down to about 2010-1995mhz. 2) To sustain these frequencies the card needs about ~1.075V. 3)My GPU temp is about 51*C in 5 min and climbing. Water temp reaches about 40*C (equilibrium) it wont climb past that. GPU will climb to 60*C in about 20 min of heavy use. The card will crash instantly if I even attempt 2100. To manage all of this I have undervolted the card to 1980mhz at ~.98V, this maintains about 48-52*C after 1hr of gaming (around 1 game crash an hour). Ambient temps are around 26-30*C. I keep my power limit at 100%, and my core voltage at 0%. Memory is +1000mhz and stays around 45*C +/- 8*C. To recap the other specs are as follows.......
Monitor: LG 32GK650F 1440p 144hz
Case: Fractal Define S2
CPU: Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard: Crosshair VII Hero
RAM: G. SKILL Trident Z 3200mhz CL14
PSU: EVGA Supernova 1600w T2
CPU Cooling: EK Supremacy EVO
Pump: EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM
Radiators: 1X240 with 2 Noctua NF A12x25 (running at 100%) Push exhaust out top
1X360 with 3 EK Vardar F4 (Running at 90%) Push Intake Front
1X140mm Fan Exhaust out Back
Cooling Order: Pump-GPU-240-CPU-360-Reservoir
Should i consider an RMA, or are my expectations to high?
In order to push higher clock frequencies you are going to need to push that voltage to 1.093v and increase the power limit to the max (at least that is what I did to it 2145MHz). Yor fluid temps tend to indicate that you have a cooling capacity issues... Generally speaking you want fluid temps to be no more than 10C over ambient air temp, anything higher and you need more cooling capacity for the loop. With a fluid temp of 40C and ambient air temperature of 26C you are running on the hot side of things... also be careful fluid temps over 45C could start to spell trouble, as in leaks. what radiators are you using, model and brand?
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