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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/03 23:03:25 (permalink)
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Actually, supposedly, you just flip the bios switch on the KPE card to OC mode and then it runs at 2025 without doing anything else to it or even touching software. And I can't even get anyone to confirm the Lightning card actually has any sort of mode that allows us to change the voltage at all, where it is confirmed that at the very least.. voltage changing is a staple of the KPE card.


In the video, he clearly states, "I flipped the switch to ln2 mode, which unlocks higher power targets".

Could you provide any documentation showing where you got the 2025 on the oc switch? Because Vince very clearly states, "we guarantee 2025 on the 1080ti K|ngp|n, but it won't ship with that, users can overclock to that". Was there a change after the video was made? Also, what is supposedly? I take Kingpins word when it comes to his own cards, not speculation from other users.



Exactly that. "we guarantee 2025 on the 1080ti K|ngp|n, but it won't ship with that, users can overclock to that" we have to sort of read between the lines. They did say that it will have a 3 position bios switch, normal, OC mode and Ln2, so one can only assume that the OC mode would be the "guaranteed 2025". Just like you we're just guessing here. They don't explicitly state -HOW- we get the promised 2025 speed.. and that's the only logical way anyone can think of.

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/03 23:09:52 (permalink)
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Exactly that. "we guarantee 2025 on the 1080ti K|ngp|n, but it won't ship with that, users can overclock to that" we have to sort of read between the lines. They did say that it will have a 3 position bios switch, normal, OC mode and Ln2, so one can only assume that the OC mode would be the "guaranteed 2025". Just like you we're just guessing here. They don't explicitly state -HOW- we get the promised 2025 speed.. and that's the only logical way anyone can think of.


Don't assume. He flat out said it wouldn't ship with it. If he had said, "it will have 2025 on a different bios", then you would have something to lean against. But he didn't. He flat out answered your assumptions.

How do you get to 2025... If you have to ask that, you must not understand that you have to use precision xoc.. since that is how you get to 2025. That is the only logical answer...

Normal mode will probably have 110% power target. Oc mode will have higher power target. Ln2 mode will have the highest power target and possibly tighter vram timings... just like every other kingpin card.

Do you know what the vram heater does, or why it is used? Not trying to be insulting, I am geniunely curious after you asked how you would get to 2025.

Also, another edit, I added the video for the lightning to my last post.
post edited by Scarlet-Tech - 2017/07/03 23:14:10
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 00:18:49 (permalink)
Forgive me if this was asked/answered. I couldn't see anything definitive.
 
I'm planning a new build this summer, but the issue is I move quite often for my job so haven't taken the time to try water cooling. With that in mind, and not planning to OC beyond anything acceptable with air cooling, can someone let me know if the K|ngp|n is worth waiting for?
 
What are the base clock speeds? And will I see much performance improvements over the FTW3 at 4k gaming?
 
Thanks in advance!
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 01:15:48 (permalink)
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Forgive me if this was asked/answered. I couldn't see anything definitive.
 
I'm planning a new build this summer, but the issue is I move quite often for my job so haven't taken the time to try water cooling. With that in mind, and not planning to OC beyond anything acceptable with air cooling, can someone let me know if the K|ngp|n is worth waiting for?
 
What are the base clock speeds? And will I see much performance improvements over the FTW3 at 4k gaming?
 
Thanks in advance!




 
It is only worth waiting if you have extremely deep pockets and want to pad you cool points.  It is extremely unlikely you will see any more than one or two FPS in 4k gaming.  
 
Base clocks are not announced, so you would need to wait for the official announcement before anyone could answer that question. 
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 01:38:26 (permalink)
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Don't assume. He flat out said it wouldn't ship with it. If he had said, "it will have 2025 on a different bios", then you would have something to lean against. But he didn't. He flat out answered your assumptions.

How do you get to 2025... If you have to ask that, you must not understand that you have to use precision xoc.. since that is how you get to 2025. That is the only logical answer...

Normal mode will probably have 110% power target. Oc mode will have higher power target. Ln2 mode will have the highest power target and possibly tighter vram timings... just like every other kingpin card.

Do you know what the vram heater does, or why it is used? Not trying to be insulting, I am geniunely curious after you asked how you would get to 2025.

Also, another edit, I added the video for the lightning to my last post.



They didn't say software OC either.. they didn't say exactly how we'll get it. You're guessing. I'm guessing. At this point everyone is guessing.
 
And Vram heaters are for LN2 usage, usually. At least that's what I've read. I don't do LN2 myself. 
 
The only reason I was even interested in a 1080 Ti kingpin at all, is it's the only 1080 Ti card sold by anyone (so far) guaranteed to allow us to change the voltage on it without hard mods. Kudos to EVGA to once again give sort of a middle-finger to nvidia's stupid locking down of their cards with pascal.

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 01:42:57 (permalink)
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They didn't say software OC either.. they didn't say exactly how we'll get it. You're guessing. I'm guessing. At this point everyone is guessing.
 
And Vram heaters are for LN2 usage, usually. At least that's what I've read. I don't do LN2 myself. 
 
The only reason I was even interested in a 1080 Ti kingpin at all, is it's the only 1080 Ti card sold by anyone (so far) guaranteed to allow us to change the voltage on it without hard mods. Kudos to EVGA to once again give sort of a middle-finger to nvidia's stupid locking down of their cards with pascal.


Just watched it again, and you are correct. My apology
post edited by Scarlet-Tech - 2017/07/04 01:50:12
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 04:34:45 (permalink)
Honestly I'm paying the extra for aesthetics's lol. The gold accents, and side power ports are worth and extra 150-200 for me lol. If I'm going to spend 800 on a card that will last me several years, what difference does 100-200 dollars make? I spend an extra 10 dollars per month of ownership for a card I find way more appealing, I can live with that. I'm also really excited to see the led's on the backplate. The way they describe it, it radiates from one side to the other like the flow of electricity going threw the card.

I plan on watercooling too, so it will likely run better then the average ftw3 card just because of the binned chips there using.

Will it be the card to rule them all, don't know, but what I do know, I really like.

/e still pumped
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 04:53:41 (permalink)
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Honestly I'm paying the extra for aesthetics's lol. The gold accents, and side power ports are worth and extra 150-200 for me lol. If I'm going to spend 800 on a card that will last me several years, what difference does 100-200 dollars make? I spend an extra 10 dollars per month of ownership for a card I find way more appealing, I can live with that. I'm also really excited to see the led's on the backplate. The way they describe it, it radiates from one side to the other like the flow of electricity going threw the card.

I plan on watercooling too, so it will likely run better then the average ftw3 card just because of the binned chips there using.

Will it be the card to rule them all, don't know, but what I do know, I really like.

/e still pumped


That is a great reason :-)
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 07:41:57 (permalink)
Also i believe kingpin said the cooler will be copper, even if its copper plated it looks great
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 21:56:12 (permalink)
The "guaranteed 2025mhz" means that, whichever way you try to OC it (Boost 3.0, Manual, Bios Switch), it will be guaranteed to clock to *at least* 2025. Nothing is guaranteed beyond that. It's just saying that every Kingpin will be capable of running it at a that speed. Nothing has been said yet of what it will be clocked at out of the box.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/04 22:01:04 (permalink)
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Don't assume. He flat out said it wouldn't ship with it. If he had said, "it will have 2025 on a different bios", then you would have something to lean against. But he didn't. He flat out answered your assumptions.

How do you get to 2025... If you have to ask that, you must not understand that you have to use precision xoc.. since that is how you get to 2025. That is the only logical answer...

Normal mode will probably have 110% power target. Oc mode will have higher power target. Ln2 mode will have the highest power target and possibly tighter vram timings... just like every other kingpin card.

Do you know what the vram heater does, or why it is used? Not trying to be insulting, I am geniunely curious after you asked how you would get to 2025.

Also, another edit, I added the video for the lightning to my last post.



They didn't say software OC either.. they didn't say exactly how we'll get it. You're guessing. I'm guessing. At this point everyone is guessing.
 
And Vram heaters are for LN2 usage, usually. At least that's what I've read. I don't do LN2 myself. 
 
The only reason I was even interested in a 1080 Ti kingpin at all, is it's the only 1080 Ti card sold by anyone (so far) guaranteed to allow us to change the voltage on it without hard mods. Kudos to EVGA to once again give sort of a middle-finger to nvidia's stupid locking down of their cards with pascal.


Dude, all you have to do is look at how every other 1080 TI has functioned and handled overclocks. None of them state that they will get anywhere close to even 2000, but they almost all do. There isn't some special sauce EVGA is going to implement to achieve their OC.

Btw, the Lightning has an ln2 switch, also.
post edited by Skizzy34 - 2017/07/04 22:04:40
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/05 11:26:02 (permalink)
True, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it will be a killer card
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/05 12:10:41 (permalink)
hello
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/05 13:50:47 (permalink)

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 09:21:06 (permalink)
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hello
vince on FB show new Tshirt with  this  GTX1080TI printed , just wait 2 or 3  week 
 




makes me kinda wish i had a fb account... lol
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 09:33:50 (permalink)
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hello
vince on FB show new Tshirt with  this  GTX1080TI printed , just wait 2 or 3  week 
 




makes me kinda wish i had a fb account... lol


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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 09:40:35 (permalink)
thank you! omg that copper  so excited, hope some of these are out for review, so we can see some youtube reviews at launch
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 12:01:45 (permalink)
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hello
vince on FB show new Tshirt with  this  GTX1080TI printed , just wait 2 or 3  week 
 




makes me kinda wish i had a fb account... lol





Coming weeks? That means we’ll probabaly be lucky to get one before August..
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 12:32:16 (permalink)

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 12:46:50 (permalink)
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cateno
hello
vince on FB show new Tshirt with  this  GTX1080TI printed , just wait 2 or 3  week 
 




makes me kinda wish i had a fb account... lol




Nice shirt.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 17:03:09 (permalink)
free with purchase i bet 
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/06 18:59:19 (permalink)
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free with purchase i bet 


In the box ;-)
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/07 05:19:53 (permalink)
I actually can't believe the card will be more expensive than the Titan Xp. The FTW3 Hydro Copper is already 1100 here in the EU..
It's a wild guess but i think it will be more expensive.

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/07 05:57:07 (permalink)
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I actually can't believe the card will be more expensive than the Titan Xp. The FTW3 Hydro Copper is already 1100 here in the EU..
It's a wild guess but i think it will be more expensive.


They aren't meant to be cheap. They are meant for extreme overclockers with money to throw at overclocking.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/07 06:03:38 (permalink)
I know they arent cheap, but didnt expect them to be that expensive either.

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/09 13:46:27 (permalink)
I so cannot wait. One of my OG Titans just bit the dust while playing Fallout 4 today. I did have a custom bios and OC at 1100 for a couple years running. I am glad to get another T-Shirt! I have 2 already but I out grew them. hopefully we can choose size so I can get an XL this time
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/14 00:36:33 (permalink)
Any news when and the price?
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/14 00:48:37 (permalink)
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Any news when and the price?


Not yet. Once there is news, it will be posted in the forums and all over social media.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/14 01:12:13 (permalink)
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Any news when and the price?




You can at least expect it to be more expensive than their most expensive GPU right now.  

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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted 2017/07/14 03:57:58 (permalink)
EVGA twitter responded to the question on when released and they responded with "Very soon!".  This was 11:30am July 13.
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