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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 06:22:32
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The Galax HOF and Kingpin are competitors in Cooling wise
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 08:00:20
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kithylin
johnwayne117 Do you think he is playing with the retail card?
See the video I linked above. All 1080 Ti kingpin cards will do 2050 out of the box on air if we just select the OC bios.
I mean, in gamersnexus video they said they have not retail version. So if video shows retail version, the release might be soon.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 08:26:03
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kithylin I'll remind everyone again, here is Kingpin himself, and all of the 1080 Ti KINGPIN cards are guranteed to do 2050 Mhz out of the box via just selecting the OC bios, and with manual tuning they said most of them are hitting 2150+ Mhz on air cooling. See here: https://www.youtube.com/w.ch?v=FOrtSRip0bg#t=2m19s As far as I'm aware of, there's no other 1080 Ti made by anyone that can do these clocks stable on air, to date.
Could you relink the video, this one has 404 not found. Foudn the video and relinked it: Jay says EVGA guarantees 2025. Jay asked"On average, how far have you seen some of these get?" and Vince responds "on air cooling, I have seen 2150+". Don't misinterpret that, as it WILL lead to heart break if the cards are not capable of your expectations. No where do they say 2050 guaranteed, and no where do they say most cards will do 2150. He is talking about some cards doing that.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 09:33:00
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I hope they will release the card within 1 month, i need to order my stuff for my custom loop.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 12:39:50
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Scarlet-Tech Foudn the video and relinked it: Jay says EVGA guarantees 2025. Jay asked"On average, how far have you seen some of these get?" and Vince responds "on air cooling, I have seen 2150+". Don't misinterpret that, as it WILL lead to heart break if the cards are not capable of your expectations. No where do they say 2050 guaranteed, and no where do they say most cards will do 2150. He is talking about some cards doing that.
thought it was 2050, my mistake, I guess it's 2025 then. Still. The big thing I think everyone is forgetting here that's a -REALLY BIG DEAL- this time around is we can connect a usb header to the card to the motherboard and do everything the EEVBOT could normally do via software and the motherboard this time. That and this will only be 1 of like 2 or 3 nvidia cards that actually have a fully unlocked voltage via a special bios (I think selecting the Ln2 Bios does that). The only other ones I've confirmed to actually do this is the MSI Lightning, and Galax HOF cards. Every other 1080 Ti sold at every model, including the FTW3, all have locked voltage that can't be changed. Even with a custom bios, still volt-locked. And essentially every single last card sold by every vendor and every model -OTHER- than the 3 I mentioned here, everything else is -EXACTLY- the same and all other cards all have the exact same overclock and maximum clocks, just the same as reference cards. The only cards that will overclock any better than "The rest of the pack" is Kingpin, Galax HOF, and MSI Lightning. And so far the Kingpin has a lot more features and options (USB-EEVBOT Connection, voltage lead connections for multimeter, etc.) vs the competition. So, so far.. it's looking like Kingpin is the one to buy for those of us that really want to push the 1080 Ti and pascal to it's limits.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/01 15:38:10
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kithylin thought it was 2050, my mistake, I guess it's 2025 then. Still. The big thing I think everyone is forgetting here that's a -REALLY BIG DEAL- this time around is we can connect a usb header to the card to the motherboard and do everything the EEVBOT could normally do via software and the motherboard this time. That and this will only be 1 of like 2 or 3 nvidia cards that actually have a fully unlocked voltage via a special bios (I think selecting the Ln2 Bios does that). The only other ones I've confirmed to actually do this is the MSI Lightning, and Galax HOF cards. Every other 1080 Ti sold at every model, including the FTW3, all have locked voltage that can't be changed. Even with a custom bios, still volt-locked. And essentially every single last card sold by every vendor and every model -OTHER- than the 3 I mentioned here, everything else is -EXACTLY- the same and all other cards all have the exact same overclock and maximum clocks, just the same as reference cards. The only cards that will overclock any better than "The rest of the pack" is Kingpin, Galax HOF, and MSI Lightning. And so far the Kingpin has a lot more features and options (USB-EEVBOT Connection, voltage lead connections for multimeter, etc.) vs the competition. So, so far.. it's looking like Kingpin is the one to buy for those of us that really want to push the 1080 Ti and pascal to it's limits.
The 980 K|ngp|n had the is header, it just wasn't used for evbot controls, so that will be a nice feature.. you may have skipped the part where Vince himself said that these don't scale with voltage, and that small increase caused substantial heat output compared to previous cards, so if you decide to buy this, get a good way to keep it cool, like water or better. If you buy it on air... good luck. Vince has a benchmarking lab, so he has a lot more resources to throw at these cards.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 06:00:53
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The FTW3 Hydro Copper is $869, so I’m guessing quite a bit above $900.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 06:29:21
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Hi guys how much i can take more fps on games with overclock on Kingpin 1080Ti ? and This card best air cooling with compare the others 1080ti ?
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 06:43:42
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XLYUS Hi guys how much i can take more fps on games with overclock on Kingpin 1080Ti ? and This card best air cooling with compare the others 1080ti ?
Refer to the post you marked "best answer" HERE
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 11:05:29
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Skizzy34 The FTW3 Hydro Copper is $869, so I’m guessing quite a bit above $900.
The Titan x Pascal 12GB is like 1600.00 I've always thought the kpe this time around would be somewhere above 1k range hope not..
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 11:42:28
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Chuck H. The Titan x Pascal 12GB is like 1600.00 I've always thought the kpe this time around would be somewhere above 1k range hope not..
What? Where did you ever get that price for the Titan Xp? Was it just a random number? NVIDIA TITAN Xp LEARN MORE$ 1,200.00
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 15:24:45
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Please give us a date, my pc died today and i need to finish my custom loop with new gpu.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 17:32:14
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I'm putting my money on EVGA taking preorders on their 18th anniversary in 12 days.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 18:22:16
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I believe their price range will be anywhere from $900-$1000. That obviously won't include their $150+ WB.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 19:14:17
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 19:25:12
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Chuck H. right here --> https://www.amazon.com/NV...;keywords=gtx+titan+xp
There's your problem. Amazon isn't an authorized retailer, so you shouldn't be comparing prices from 2rd party vendors. Now, nvidia is the only retailer for the Titan X(P) and Titan Xp. So, $1200 is the only price that matters . Please do not use unauthorized retailers as you justification for inflated prices.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 20:03:39
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you can buy most any of evga's 1080's on amazon for the same price evga sells them for, I would never want a titan anyway..
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/02 20:27:48
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Chuck H. you can buy most any of evga's 1080's on amazon for the same price evga sells them for, I would never want a titan anyway..
Really... You are going to argue a moot point? Ok.. 1080's are available from almost all manufacturers.. so are the 1080ti, 1070, 1060, 10ti, 1050, 1040, Titan X Maxwell, 980ti, 980, 970, 960... so, of course you can buy a card that is sold by many manufacturers on Amazon for list price, because there is no reason to sell them for more, since users can get them directly from other retailers with no delay. Nvidia is the only one that is authorized to sell the Titan x(p) and titan Xp.. since nvidia direct warranties do not transfer, anyone reckless enough to waste their time and buy from Amazon won't even have a warranty, as the card is consider second hand. Now, try to justify Amazon all you want. You are wasting you time and energy. The card is only selling for 1200 per keep, with a warranty. Anyone that would buy from somewhere else for more money with no warranty is just trying to prove they are incapable of research and they have money to waste. As I stated earlier, nvidia is the only authorized location to buy from. Until their price goes up, you argument is completely invalid. Edit this in.. go to nvidia.com, go to the store. Select titan Xp.. who does it show as authorized dealer? Oh yeah, no one. Go to 1080ti, scroll down.. who does it show as authorized dealer? I see best buy, b&h, Canada computers, Memory express, micro center, ncix.com, newegg... see the difference?
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 05:08:01
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Hi guys im new to evga and here in evga forum i also never happened to have an EVGA product but i want now TO BUY A KINGPPINN YEAAAHHH so im really Waiting so badd for this Card for mounths but im really curious WILL IT BE FOR EVERYONE???im scared because have heard someone said it maybe be available just for evga ELITE MEMEBERSHIPS!! is it right OR not???and Question number 2 is are they going to release various ASIC levels for 1080ti kingpin like the 980ti version ???i want a 80%+ version asic and what would be its price????and will they launch it in JULY 100%?Thanks
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 05:20:27
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i have seen all jayz and gamernexus videos with vincent and tin and i know everything about this card but in the video with gamernexus kingpin said the full copper part of heatsink would be just for the GPU not memorys and power delivery and the whole card Right?? and the rest will be just Copper Plated?? why not full copper for it?? and if some cards hits 2150 then what would be the Temps on that on its air cooling???the asus poseidon on water hits a stable 2100mhz so how can we use kingpin on 2150 on air??even with a high air flow case??
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 09:30:42
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I don't know what to do anymore, decided to go with the FTW3 soon and maybe the Elite variant but then I saw the Kingpin. On the other hand there is the 1080Ti Hall of Fame which should be comparable but it's more expensive than FTW3 and has questionable support and warranty.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 09:41:21
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Lots of good advice here but let me also throw in my 2 cents: 1: There are unauthorized dealers who buy items from NVIDIA and then resell them at a higher cost to make a profit so beware of these types of dealers. 2. When choosing a video card first make sure you know what you want and demand from a video card. If you want one of the best highest clocked video cards from EVGA then the KINGPIN is what you need. If however you have a lower need then an FTW3 is also a great card.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 12:05:19
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 17:59:33
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AMIROG Hi guys im new to evga and here in evga forum i also never happened to have an EVGA product but i want now TO BUY A KINGPPINN YEAAAHHH
so im really Waiting so badd for this Card for mounths but im really curious WILL IT BE FOR EVERYONE???im scared because have heard someone said it maybe be available just for evga ELITE MEMEBERSHIPS!! is it right OR not??? and Question number 2 is are they going to release various ASIC levels for 1080ti kingpin like the 980ti version ???i want a 80%+ version asic and what would be its price???? and will they launch it in JULY 100%? Thanks
Just to answer your ASIC question, No, this will not be an ASIC level card. Pascal does not have ASIC scores that can be shown to the user. Nvidia stopped that train in it's tracks, and users no longer get to complain or praise an ASIC score that doesnt mean anything. Nobody knows the price, other than EVGA, and even they may not know it yet EVGA and maybe kingpin are the only ones that know the release date. Only EVGA knows if these will be elite member exclusives at this time.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 20:12:27
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god i want this card so bad. thinking about returning my ftw3 to microcenter, i have 30 days :)
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 20:26:57
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gobstoppable god i want this card so bad. thinking about returning my ftw3 to microcenter, i have 30 days :)
Except it may literally be multiple months before this thing is available for sale yet. No one knows.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 21:24:14
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For real? They will at least announce it in July right? I still have a r9 390x so I can wait if it's worth it
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 21:44:32
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I just posted a video of the MSI Lightning in the overclocking section. If you are interested in the KPE simply because the pcb is built for ln2 overclocking (which doesn't help on air), you may want to watch that video. The lightning had 3 8 pin power, where the kpe has 2. The lighting has more phases, bigger cooler, and the same temp sensors... and gets to 2100mhz, but can't maintain it.. just like the kpe will be without exotic cooling. Make sure you expectations are realistic before spending the extra money. Whomever feeds the line of "the kpe comes with higher clocks" is wrong. Gpu boost 3.0 makes every card on the market nearly equal, base/boost clocks mean minimal now-a-days. It just means your card shouldn't drop below 1700mhz... really. If they sold the card with a boost clock of 2025, that would be one thing, but they arent.. they only guarantee you can tune your card to get to 2025.. Wait for actual reviews. Especially the reviews from people that use it as it is intended.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 22:53:47
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Scarlet-Tech I just posted a video of the MSI Lightning in the overclocking section. If you are interested in the KPE simply because the pcb is built for ln2 overclocking (which doesn't help on air), you may want to watch that video. The lightning had 3 8 pin power, where the kpe has 2. The lighting has more phases, bigger cooler, and the same temp sensors... and gets to 2100mhz, but can't maintain it.. just like the kpe will be without exotic cooling.
Make sure you expectations are realistic before spending the extra money.
Whomever feeds the line of "the kpe comes with higher clocks" is wrong. Gpu boost 3.0 makes every card on the market nearly equal, base/boost clocks mean minimal now-a-days. It just means your card shouldn't drop below 1700mhz... really. If they sold the card with a boost clock of 2025, that would be one thing, but they arent.. they only guarantee you can tune your card to get to 2025..
Wait for actual reviews. Especially the reviews from people that use it as it is intended.
Actually, supposedly, you just flip the bios switch on the KPE card to OC mode and then it runs at 2025 without doing anything else to it or even touching software. And I can't even get anyone to confirm the Lightning card actually has any sort of mode that allows us to change the voltage at all, where it is confirmed that at the very least.. voltage changing is a staple of the KPE card.
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Re: 1080 Ti K|NGP|N spotted
2017/07/03 23:01:00
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kithylin Actually, supposedly, you just flip the bios switch on the KPE card to OC mode and then it runs at 2025 without doing anything else to it or even touching software. And I can't even get anyone to confirm the Lightning card actually has any sort of mode that allows us to change the voltage at all, where it is confirmed that at the very least.. voltage changing is a staple of the KPE card.
In the lightning video, he clearly states, "I flipped the switch to ln2 mode, which unlocks higher power targets, and it didn't make any difference in overclock". Could you provide any documentation showing where you got the 2025 on the oc switch? Because Vince very clearly states, "we guarantee 2025 on the 1080ti K|ngp|n, but it won't ship with that, users can overclock to that". Was there a change after the video was made? Also, what is supposedly? I take Kingpins word when it comes to his own cards, not speculation from other users. As for voltage, Vince already said that slight voltage changes creates a lot of extra heat. He said that in the video introducing the kingpin edition 1080ti. I am not a fan of speculation, especially when higher showed that the speculation and assumptions were wrong. I have been wrong often, but I highly doubt a card with a smaller cooler will produce black magic. I am very skeptical of any claim made by anyone that isn't directly tied into creating a card that they haven't had their hands on.
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