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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/20 08:42:21
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Might want to call evga about it.. don't know if they will do anything since it's runing over specs.. so in there mind they may feel it's good.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/20 08:47:31
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Probably have to send it to repair but i can't miss the gpu since i dont have a spare one laying around.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/20 09:02:23
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Cross ship is an option as they would just replace it.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/20 09:03:50
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Unfortunately i live in The Netherlands and they do not support that. I have to either pay for a new card first (reminder, this is my 4th 1080Ti already! all with different issues) which i cant afford and then i have to return the old one or just send mine back first.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/20 09:22:54
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Unfortunately i live in The Netherlands and they do not support that. I have to either pay for a new card first (reminder, this is my 4th 1080Ti already! all with different issues) which i cant afford and then i have to return the old one or just send mine back first.
Then it sounds like run with it and not worry about it as 2000mhz is not a loss. The average overclock of 2050mhz won't make any noticeable difference. Card will stay much cooler runing thst low of voltage anyways so your better off.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/22 06:40:01
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I got the same answer:
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out to us. Nvidia has already identified this issue as a bug in the Nvidia Drivers. They are working on a fix, but they have not given us any estimate on when a driver update to address this will be released.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/22 13:53:08
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GIVE ME MORE POWER SCOTTY!!
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If IT is indeed a driver issue, wouldnt it be a case on all 1080 ti cards?
Maybe, but nvidia could be pulling some shenanigans with the drivers.
seriously doubt they could do that. EVGA is licensed to produce their aftermarket cards and write a bios for their engineered cards. It's more like an excuse IMHO.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 07:12:01
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Each GeForce driver release accompanied with huge release notes pdf that along with everything else has long list of "known issues".
Don't remember seeing improper power limit reporting there.
Is there any formal JIRA, technical bulletin, or anything to back up that "Nvidia has already identified this issue as a bug in the Nvidia Drivers. They are working on a fix" claim.
Plus why reporting issue affecting performance, which is the same with 117% and 127% power limit? Sorry, may be I am missing something.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 09:46:19
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Honestly, I've never read the release notes from Nvidia drivers and ever seen notes pertaining to a certain manufacturer.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 17:46:50
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Whats the max TDP for the ftw3 card with it set to +127%. I ask cause I seen some .bat file that one can use to set the max TDP on the card. He's stating that one would want to use it after flashing the bios as its set wrong after flashing the card or just installing the Nvidia drivers! Heres what i'm talking about: Important note: After flashing your BIOS or reinstalling your video card driver unzip the file below and right click it, Edit it using NotePad, change the '-pl 3**' to your max TDP on your card, Save As the file, choose 'All Files', not '.txt', save the powerlimit.bat file, than right click it and 'Run As Adminstrator'
powerlimit.zip 0k .zip file
Note: Top display port will be disabled if you flash a BIOS on the FE other then one of the stock BIOS's.
I've found after flashing a BIOS or installing Nvidia drivers the max power limit is much lower than it should be and this is the fix.
You can find your max TDP in the official BIOS's link.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 17:52:55
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Whats the max TDP for the ftw3 card with it set to +127%.
358.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 18:21:13
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Whats the max TDP for the ftw3 card with it set to +127%.
358.
Thx! Prob going to attempt flashing to the Asus XOC bios shortly out of boredom. but i'll try that max TDP setting first and give her a run.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 18:49:32
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Interesting.. after using that bat file to raise the max TDP for my card I ran superposition and noticed my card was runing really low clocks durring the bench. So I rebooted the pc and ran it again.. this time seeing the clocks back into the upper 1900-2050 range and I did see the power spike to 121%!
Never ever seen anything over 117% prior thst I can remember. Hmm.. scored a little higher as well.
Runing timespy now!
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 19:05:43
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122% spike in timespy!
So I think theres hope a driver update can address this issue.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 19:56:21
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Didn't help me at all. Still getting a power limit throttle at 131% as shown in post #531.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 20:04:55
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Didn't help me at all. Still getting a power limit throttle at 131% as shown in post #531.
Did you try rebooting the system after applying the .bat file?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 20:07:52
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Didn't help me at all. Still getting a power limit throttle at 131% as shown in post #531.
Did you try rebooting the system after applying the .bat file?
Don't see how that is going to help since the power target is reset to 100% when restarting.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 20:11:04
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Didn't help me at all. Still getting a power limit throttle at 131% as shown in post #531.
Did you try rebooting the system after applying the .bat file?
Don't see how that is going to help since the power target is reset to 100% when restarting.
Exactly nvidia-smi.exe -q Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 71.15 W Power Limit : 355.60 W Default Power Limit : 280.00 W Enforced Power Limit : 355.60 W Min Power Limit : 125.00 W Max Power Limit : 358.00 W "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe" -pl 358 Power limit for GPU 00000000:01:00.0 was set to 358.00 W from 355.60 W. All done. nvidia-smi.exe -q Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 70.47 W Power Limit : 358.00 W Default Power Limit : 280.00 W Enforced Power Limit : 358.00 W Min Power Limit : 125.00 W Max Power Limit : 358.00 W After cold rebbot nvidia-smi.exe -q Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 70.87 W Power Limit : 355.60 W Default Power Limit : 280.00 W Enforced Power Limit : 355.60 W Min Power Limit : 125.00 W Max Power Limit : 358.00 W
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 20:11:22
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Oh ok.. so the .bat file needs to be run after ea boot up? Crazy.. omg mentioned after flashing the card bios or installing new drivers.
I guess I have more testing then.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/23 20:17:41
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Oh ok.. so the .bat file needs to be run after ea boot up? Crazy.. omg mentioned after flashing the card bios or installing new drivers.
I guess I have more testing then.
I didn't see any changes in power limit when running superimpostion even before reboot.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/24 23:59:14
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It's only for the KP card.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/25 10:43:51
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And it was BIOS, right?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/25 10:56:59
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Every once in awhile I bring this back up...is anyone else with a FE card typically hitting ~130% power when Running Superposition at @ 8K? Or is it just me?  This is running with the voltage slider at zero too. I'm not sure we understand the nuances of boost 3.0 and how apps interact with it. As far as I can tell whether I use 0 or 100% on the voltage slider with either Precision or AB...there's no discernible change. Voltage, clocks and scores are unchanged.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/25 16:40:53
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And it was BIOS, right?
Yep.
So how should it make us treat EVGA claim that it's NVidia driver's problem? Can we please get any official update on this.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/25 16:42:52
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So how should it make us treat EVGA claim that it's NVidia driver's problem?
Can we please get any official update on this.
I second this. EVGA please update...
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post #
2018/01/26 06:00:15
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It's been proven over and over again in this very thread, it's a bios issue and it keeps falling on deaf ears.
The driver fix is a scam. It's going to manipulate the numbers to show its working properly. Once we prove it's a scam the finger pointing will start. EVGA will blame Nvidia drivers and Nvidia will blame anybody but themselves. And the customer gets screwed just like we/they always do.
I hope I'm wrong but it seems to be heading in this direction. Just my opinion.
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