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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/15 10:01:09 (permalink)
Guys, look  Jacob responded on twitter, I suggest you like, retweet, or ask for them to hurry it up, hopefully well get a real update
 
Oops the link was removed as spam, here 
 
@EVGA_JacobF, go search twitter for him and see, hes said 
"Still in works, will try to get an update this week."
post edited by Alan1080ti - 2018/01/15 10:03:10
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/15 10:07:31 (permalink)
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Guys, look  Jacob responded on twitter, I suggest you like, retweet, or ask for them to hurry it up, hopefully well get a real update
 
Oops the link was removed as spam, here 
 
@EVGA_JacobF, go search twitter for him and see, hes said 
"Still in works, will try to get an update this week."

What date was that posted?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/15 10:09:22 (permalink)
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The Complaint


 
The Response

 
Again I encourage you to make a formal complaint
Here's the link:



Just did this too, as well as linking Jacobs tweet. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/15 10:16:25 (permalink)
I don't use Twitter.. he knows of this huge thread. He should be reporting on here.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/15 21:26:16 (permalink)
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Not good. Looks like evga unpinned this thread. 




I haven't seen this thread in the pinned section up top for some time now
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 02:47:33 (permalink)
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Sajin
Not good. Looks like evga unpinned this thread. 



I haven't seen this thread in the pinned section up top for some time now


+1
1 week or even more that this has been unpinned.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 06:20:20 (permalink)
Just found this thread, same problem here.
The 86.02.39.01.90 bios is loaded, power limit set to 127% and still caps out at 117%.
 
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 14:44:56 (permalink)
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owcraftsman
The Complaint


 
The Response

 
Again I encourage you to make a formal complaint
Here's the link:


Just did this too, as well as linking Jacobs tweet. 




Hi, just submited my complain:
 
"Hello.
I´m the owner of an 1080TI FTW3 and it was advirtised that it could go to 127% on the power limit. But my card never goes above 117% ( yes i´m on the slave bios etc...)
I paid a lot more to buy this card because it could increase power up to 127% Among other things.
And the store did not have this card available , it was specially ordered for me (I waited almost 2 weeks for it). The store had a 1080Ti Strix from ASUS in stock around 800 euros but I opted for this 1080TI FTW3, for 899euros( yes...euros not dollars), and after all i paid for something that is not enabled when could have paid much less.
Can you see why I'm disappointed?

When are you thinking about solving this problem with a new bios?
I'm not the only one with this problem:
https://forums.evga.com/1080-TI-FTW3-watercooled-Slave-BIOS-doesn39t-go-over-117-cause-identified-see-post-85-m2693145.aspx
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 16:05:23 (permalink)
Wouldn't there be a resistor on the GPU to prevent it from taking in 127%?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 16:50:44 (permalink)
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Wouldn't there be a resistor on the GPU to prevent it from taking in 127%?

No. The power draw (as a percent of maximum)  can be changed (by Nvidia/AIB's) in the BIOS similar to how we used to do it on the Maxwell series. I think what you're getting at is the current limiting shunt (resistor).  The 'shunt mod' is an alternative method into increasing power draw since we can't modify the BIOS. I think they are having trouble with stability and/or limiting power draw trying to modify the BIOS to increase the power target. I already peak at 130% power draw on a stock FE (on the stock BIOS) running benches. Something is off when even the stock BIOS on the GPU doesn't hit over 117%.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 18:00:12 (permalink)
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Just found this thread, same problem here.
The 86.02.39.01.90 bios is loaded, power limit set to 127% and still caps out at 117%.
 
 


Complain officially in the complaints section a few posts ago. Register your card. Tweet to @jacob_evga or whatever his name was I quoted and ask them to fix this asap on twitter
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/16 18:01:23 (permalink)
GIVE ME MORE POWER SCOTTY!!

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/16 18:09:37 (permalink)
Six months with 500+ replies with no 'real' answer .......... hmm...... move on.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 00:22:35 (permalink)
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Six months with 500+ replies with no 'real' answer .......... hmm...... move on.




We all spent a lot....no.... we are not moving on!
 
I think most agree with me that we want a solution. An update is bios, a new card, equal or superior, etc ... but we want a solution!
 
 
 
Well, i just got the answer from evga regarding my complain:
 

Your Answer:

Hello,

What Jacob F (our product manager) has said on the forums is still the case, this is a driver issue, not an issue with the BIOS or the card itself.
Nvidia has identified the issue and is working on a fix, they have not provided any type of ETA at this time.

Regards,
EVGA
post edited by Superbxxx - 2018/01/17 00:37:56
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 02:21:25 (permalink)
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Six months with 500+ replies with no 'real' answer .......... hmm...... move on.




We all spent a lot....no.... we are not moving on!
 
I think most agree with me that we want a solution. An update is bios, a new card, equal or superior, etc ... but we want a solution!
 
 
 
Well, i just got the answer from evga regarding my complain:
 

Your Answer:

Hello,

What Jacob F (our product manager) has said on the forums is still the case, this is a driver issue, not an issue with the BIOS or the card itself.
Nvidia has identified the issue and is working on a fix, they have not provided any type of ETA at this time.

Regards,
EVGA



Nvidia in this moment:
"Let's first launch all the Volta cards, then we see what to do about that power issue on the EVGA Forums that have more than 500 replies".

Yay. Very cool.



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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 06:31:54 (permalink)
Short of Gamers Nexus or one of the other outlets covers this debacle it is dead in the water. Just remember this when you make any new pc type purchase in the future. I know I will,
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 06:33:13 (permalink)
To add, like the majority of members on this forum I have owned so so many EVGA products.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/17 07:55:47 (permalink)
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We cannot seem to reproduce this year, try using 3DMark11 or Furmark.
 
 


If it's a driver problem, on which version did you try to reproduce it?
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/01/17 10:31:13 (permalink)
And I was really close to buying a msi trio 1080ti.. if it was in stock at the moment I would of went with it since the reviews were so good with the air cooler.

That was my thoughts when I was exchanging my first evga ftw3 1080ti that struggled with 4k! Dancing clocks thanks to the power limit!

Now i know why it struggles so much at 4k and not at 1080/2k.. uses less power. No power limit 1 coming up super early causing nvidia boost 3.0 to dynamically lower the clocks to yoyo mode!

Ftw3 right now = for a loss!

Handicapped card that cost $150 more then the nvidia founders edition that runs more power and has way less phases at 7+2 compared to the ftw3 at 10+2.

I'd say since the kingpin runs correctly with there other bios made available to correct this same issue.. why not exchange our cards with That?

Or save a bundle and release a simular 0 power limit bios to correct this issue on the ftw3?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 11:11:18 (permalink)
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Short of Gamers Nexus or one of the other outlets covers this debacle it is dead in the water. Just remember this when you make any new pc type purchase in the future. I know I will,



I'm beginning to think this is the case.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 14:35:16 (permalink)
Even the extreme watercooling oc vbios on the 1080 ti kingpin gets limited at 131% if you push the clocks hard enough...
 

 
Note: Both runs are on the 8k preset in unigine superposition. Right side is using slightly less memory clock.
 
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 14:46:56 (permalink)
If IT is indeed a driver issue, wouldnt it be a case on all 1080 ti cards?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 14:51:42 (permalink)
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If IT is indeed a driver issue, wouldnt it be a case on all 1080 ti cards?

Maybe, but nvidia could be pulling some shenanigans with the drivers.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 19:37:49 (permalink)
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Maybe, but nvidia could be pulling some shenanigans with the drivers.



Yet another reason why nvidia will never open source their drivers...

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/17 22:26:06 (permalink)
That gives, is three someone on Linux here and would be able to check official NVIDIA and Open source versions od drivers?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/19 17:51:14 (permalink)
Hi. I join the request to fix the issue of power .. I have an ftw3, where I sign for the petition or the complaint?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/19 17:56:42 (permalink)
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Hi. I join the request to fix the issue of power .. I have an ftw3, where I sign for the petition or the complaint?


https://www.evga.com/support/suggestions.asp


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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/20 06:21:51 (permalink)
Powerlimit aint the issue for me, but the limited voltage of 1050mV at slave bios is the issue. I flashed the bios, but i am not sure if the card is running the master or slave. Can somebody confirm if the master runs max 1050mV? Else there is something wrong with my voltage i guess.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/20 07:18:47 (permalink)
Both master and slave should hit 1.093v. I've heard of one other with this issue.

What clocks are you seeing with maxed out power/temp and voltage sliders in pxoc durring benchmarks or games with v-sync tuned off.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (cause identified, see post # 2018/01/20 07:19:59 (permalink)
Sliding the sliders to max doesn't help at all. But it maxes at 1999/2000 at 1050mV at around 35c load.

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