Andrew_K

masterpmi

Andrew_K

flagstang

I'll just be bumping my post on the last page.... 

- Reading about all of the overclocking limitations I'm starting to wonder if I should only buy 2 Classy HC's. I was thinking of 3 since I gaming on a 5000x1080 resolution while using Stereoscopic 3D. I wonder how much impact the 3rd card will have on the framerate when the clocks can't get as high as wanted?

Surely this has got a relatively easy answer....

What kind of clocks did you want? 1400's on air and more on water not good enough? And yes, a third card will have a significant impact.

What settings are you running that you are getting 1400 Stable ?

Sure you can get to 1450+ but that's just in precision, soon as you test it with the EV test (old furmark) it throttles.

If you only knew... 
 

 
really, you wont share.

Would we be about a week out from the release of the Hydro Copper version now?
 
At what point could we expect to see some more information on this card? (Mainly the clocks?) It will have to be clocked higher than the stock 680 Hydro Copper.

Any word if the 680 Classy Hydros are supposed to come with higher clocks than the standard 680 Classy ?

sk3tch



#2 on modsrigs.com behind k|ngp|n. :)

 
Very nice sk3tch!    Was that as far as you could push them ?

Nice rig buddy, im about to go quad SLI soon hopefully I can get close to yours or even match Kingpin

Maybe I don't understand but, why does the stock clock matter?  If you have a GTX 680 on air and water cool it then overclock you will get likely the same end clocks, lottery dependent of course, as a HC overclocked.

Funny how this thread has died for the most part, and not many of the people that talked about getting one come back to post their results. or update their rigs/sigs with info.
 
Is the card that bad? Already ones on the trade forum and ebay..must be something going on.

masterpmi

Funny how this thread has died for the most part, and not many of the people that talked about getting one come back to post their results. or update their rigs/sigs with info.

Is the card that bad? Already ones on the trade forum and ebay..must be something going on.

 
Basically, nvidia isn't giving addon card makers enough freedom.   From what I can tell, nvidia wants AIB makers to follow certain voltage/power limit guidelines and it is defnitely very detrimental to the overclocking headroom of the 680;   This is in contrast to the 580 classy which OC'ed very high out of the box, probably the best 580 on the market.   The 680 classy can OC very high too but you just need to get EV Bot - in stock form it may not be as good as many would hope.
 
I certainly hope EVGA has leverage to talk nvidia into giving them more freedom.  If a big AIB maker like EVGA approached nvidia to perhaps talk some sense into them maybe that could help.  Anyway, this is not to say classified can't perform/OC well, but if you're a true overclocker you definitely want EV Bot to make the card shine.   In its stock form there's not much reason to get it over the FTW+ (IMHO)

Do you have a new programs that run at startup?  That seems to be a common cause for RSOD, you can find everything with msconfig (and select "don't show microsoft programs" as a filter )

lordshinro

I've gone through 3 cards (2 original RMA'd Classys and now another) which did the exact same thing. At first issues with SLI then RSOD, went through multiple bridges and actual computers to rule other hardware out.

first 2 RMAs however both cards performed very well for a while and still performed at stock levels when NOT in SLI, 2 Brand new cards I received one was a lemon from the start, RSOD and crashing at stock clocks and voltages. Tried bumping up voltage to 1.2 with EVBOT and still crashing at stock, tried down clocking and still crashing.

I'm guessing like all releases there are some bad eggs :[

 
I'm on my third classy first one started crashing at stock settings the second had a defective LED and this third one is giving me red screens and artifacts when I raise the voltage. Not sure I can RMA it for that though since it runs at stock speeds.

Andrew_K

Mother of god... how am I supposed to figure out which card it is if they have to be in 4 way sli for the problem to return? Tested 3/4 so far and they work fine by themselves...

I feel for you. You get some new cards, you hope to enjoy them. Not have to trouble shoot them with all your time.
 
Time saver= RMA all of them! (more of a joke)

Andrew_K

Today I've hit some big problems with my classy's. Anything I run, even with stock settings will crash/red screen. I'm guessing it is just one card doing it, but it's a hassle to have to pull them all out and test one by one again.  Then I guess it's time to RMA.

Sorry to hear that. What mobo do you have? With my ASUS Rampage IV Extreme I just used the dipswitches to enable/disable each card's PCIe slot - so I could run each in single card mode and run tests to see if it was the bad card (this was when I had 4x FTW+ 4GB and one had VRAM issues). It sounds like you've made a lot of progress already...but next time maybe your mobo has something you can use so you don't have to do any removal until you've found the bad guy. :)

All the issues seem alarming to me.  Add in the issues almost all users of 690 Hyrdo Blocks and there seems to be a pattern developing here.  Eathier, Evga has gone down hill as far as using quality parts or something is up with the GPU itself from Nvidia.  
 
I have a 690 currently with the Koolance Waterblock that has been hassle free so far, but been eyeing the 680 Classy Hydro when the finally surface, but all these reported issues with the classy's and combine that with the issues with Hydro Blocks, it makes me want to reconsider my classy purchase.
 
Anyone else feel that overall quality control of Evga's products is way off as compared to the 580's and/or Fermi in general?  I had several Fermi based cards, 2 MSI 580 Lightnings, 2 Evga 580's, 2 Evga 460's, 1 Evga 480 and 2 580 Classy's and never had and issue.  I did have a switch on one of my 580 Classys that I broke by accident, but they replaced it for free.  But out of all those cards, not one single issue.   

jdmalone1977

Do i feel QA is off?   No.  You will find horror stories everywhere with any and all brands, and 75% of the time the user is probably at fault.   Also people don't complain when they're happy, but are really vocal when they're mad - you don't hear the billion stories from happy users.

Their QA is fine.   Hell , nvidia builds all reference and all 690 cards and EVGA has minimal part in building those, although they do make the custom boards.

 
Add me down for the 'Happy Users' column.
 
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How much Classified Hydro Copper will be?