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2021/07/29 21:49:16 (permalink)
X299 FTW-K
i9 10980xe
G.Skill 3466 16,18,18,38 quad channel kit 64GB
RTX 2080 super xc ultra
2x WD 750 1TB NVME drives
Fractal Meshify 2 XL
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custom loop 2x 420 alphacool rads, ultitube 150 pro pump/res
modest oc 4.2ghz 1.120v mesh at 30 temps in mid 50 to 60c
 
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I am home on disability since 8/2020 (wrecked my back at work opening manholes for telco restoration). I decided in March to finally upgrade. I bought an new x299 ftw-k with an i9 10980xe to go with it. Bios was to old for the 10980, got the dF 3 beep error (tried both bios). Called and got a new bios chip, in the meantime got an Asus x299 prime a-II to test proc (proc was fine). Bios chip arrives and I get C error right away on bios 2. Ended up getting a 7800x for further testing, this gave me an FF error on old bios chip (1 and 2) and C error on new bios 2. RMA board, everything worked on bench, and finally get started late June with final build with custom loop. Then the fun started.
 
Random crashes and re-boots. Bios would randomly drop dimm slot 1. re-seat a few times, gets recognized, run memtest it's all good. Random crashes at 3466 so I dropped it to 3400 and all was good.  Stressed with Cinebench R15,20,23 ran prime 95, ycruncher, super pi, occt. all passed and happy. PC is on 24/7. One morning last week I turn the monitor on and the mouse is unresponsive?, no keyboard ??, no reset ??? Ok check event log! WHEA error uncorrectable blah blah. WTH. Set clocks to manual 30, auto everything else. memtest is happy, all other tests are happy. Start getting reboots again this week. Run memtest again and something strange... So the SPD info for slot 1 is unreadable (clicking on slot 1 shows basic 2133 speed and no other info). Also info for the other slots don't show correctly, but checking each dimm does show G.Skil 3466 and timings. I changed all 8 sticks into slot 1 with the same results. Dropped it to 4 sticks same. Used my 3200 from the Asus rig with the same results (would not run xmp profile, ran at 2133). Any Ideas?? I'm at a loss (would pull my hair out, but I shave my head)
DO I have another bad board?
 
post edited by Wolodymyr - 2021/07/29 22:25:35

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 10:41:23 (permalink)
    Woke up this morning and the pc was locked up. Power cycled and got a post error of EE. Cycled 2 more times and finally got into bios. No longer shows slot 1 (ch 1) populated. Spent the past hour reseating slot one without success. Since my loop was soft tubing I lifted the water block to check for bent pins. Panicked when I saw this. Turned out to be fluff. All back together and still borked. All the ram kits are quad kits and on the QVL. maybe bad ram??

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 10:44:23 (permalink)
    Also 3466 kit in the Asus x299 prime. no errors
     

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 17:40:08 (permalink)
    Sounds like bad board, or bad cpu/weak cpu imc.

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 17:52:37 (permalink)
    It's just odd how slot 1 (CH1) and slot 3 (CH0) appear and disappear. I removed slot 1 dimm, rebooted and bios showed slot 5 (CH2) and 7 (CH3) populated but memtest saw 3 populated with no spd info. I sent an email to tech support will probably hear early next week. Never had memtest86 not show manufacture info before.
     
    post edited by Wolodymyr - 2021/07/30 17:54:42

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 18:58:28 (permalink)
    In my experience EE error code on my X299 Dark means unstable BIOS settings. If I were you I would clear CMOS, start with default settings and use MemTest86 to test memory. Then take it from there.
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 19:11:49 (permalink)
    I tried that, unfortunately did not work. Set to defaults, not optimized and locked at 30 multiplier and no xmp. Even replaced the battery, left it out for 10 mins. 

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 19:14:32 (permalink)
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    I tried that, unfortunately did not work. Set to defaults, not optimized and locked at 30 multiplier and no xmp. Even replaced the battery, left it out for 10 mins. 



    What was locked at 30 multiplier, please?
     
    Have you tried running MemTest86 with defaults?
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 19:40:45 (permalink)
    Cpu was locked at 30 multiplier 100 blk, everything else was auto. optimized defaults gave errors on second round of memtest, any other settings besides default gave errors within 4-10 minutes. Usually stating in test 6 and up

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 19:47:52 (permalink)
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    Cpu was locked at 30 multiplier 100 blk, everything else was auto. optimized defaults gave errors on second round of memtest, any other settings besides default gave errors within 4-10 minutes. Usually stating in test 6 and up



    Hmmm ... considering you already tried different memory then my guess is it is either your mb, your CPU or something about your settings. Have you tried different CPU in that mb? Have you tried reaching out to EVGA?
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 19:54:22 (permalink)
    I can try my 7800x from my sons comp. Did email tech support, don't expect to hear from them until next week. I have not tried the second bios on this board yet. Might be an option

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 20:09:34 (permalink)
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    I can try my 7800x from my sons comp. Did email tech support, don't expect to hear from them until next week. I have not tried the second bios on this board yet. Might be an option



    Trying 7800X could give you a better idea what might be the culprit. Trying different BIOS with completely default settings is also good idea (assuming it is flashed to version that supports your CPU).
     
    I don't know where are you located but if you are in US I would give them a phone call, it should be faster and easier than e-mail. 
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 20:40:09 (permalink)
    Trying second bios first. cleared cmos and the only changes made were fast boot off and boot options on. running memtest right now. So far so good. If this doesn't work then cpu swap is next, ran out of ek therm and have some unopened, really old OCZ silver 2 and some arctic alumina laying around  time to order .  I'm on the east coast so a call on Monday would be best.

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/30 20:54:12 (permalink)
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    Trying second bios first. cleared cmos and the only changes made were fast boot off and boot options on. running memtest right now. 



    Sounds like a good plan! Good luck!
     
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/07/31 23:27:13 (permalink)
    Ok small update. I had updated bios 1 to 1.28 when I received my rma board and did not touch or look at bios 2. Powered down, swapped 10980 for the 7800, cleared CMOS and set to bios 2(1.26). Bios saw all 4 sticks of 3200. only settings changed were xmp on, fast boot off, boot from usb as first device. Ran Memtest86 and it still does not display spd info on system page. maybe EVGA smbus does not like to give it out? if you check dimm info, all the spd settings are there. All tests completed and passed. Swapped 10980 into Asus board with the 3466 and will check on it later on this morning.
     

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/01 09:35:51 (permalink)
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    Ran Memtest86 and it still does not display spd info on system page. maybe EVGA smbus does not like to give it out? if you check dimm info, all the spd settings are there. 
     

     
    ... or there is incompatibility with version of MemTest86 you are using? Have you tried older/newer version?
     
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    All tests completed and passed.

     
    That is a good news. Maybe it doesn't matter if 3rd party software is not showing info perfectly everywhere as long as system passes all the checks and is running fine?
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/01 21:07:09 (permalink)
    Ok results are in. X299 ftwk with either 10980xe of 7800x with both mem kits (3466 and 3200) only default settings pass memtest (memory at 2133 only). Neither proc with xmp settings pass. Both processors and mem kits in Asus x299 prime pass at default, xmp, and minor oc at 4.0 GHz. Asus board shows correct spd data in memtest system view. X299 ftwk shows no spd for slot 1 and garbled data for other slots. Could be that ftwk is pickier about mem but kits are on qvl. Trying to find another quad kit on the qvl has become insane since most kits are EOL and very difficult to find. 

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/02 01:02:33 (permalink)
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    Ok results are in. X299 ftwk with either 10980xe of 7800x with both mem kits (3466 and 3200) only default settings pass memtest (memory at 2133 only). Neither proc with xmp settings pass. Both processors and mem kits in Asus x299 prime pass at default, xmp, and minor oc at 4.0 GHz. Asus board shows correct spd data in memtest system view. X299 ftwk shows no spd for slot 1 and garbled data for other slots. Could be that ftwk is pickier about mem but kits are on qvl. Trying to find another quad kit on the qvl has become insane since most kits are EOL and very difficult to find. 



    That is not good news :( I guess at this point you have two options: 1) Call EVGA to see what they have to say, or 2) Use Asus.
     
    BTW, does FTW-K have memory retraining option like Dark one?
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/02 06:24:01 (permalink)
    Yes it does, It's off by default. I did enable it just now

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/04 15:15:52 (permalink)
    no change with training. tech support opened rma ticket. will find out in a week. odd thing is I tried the 3466 16,18,18,38 mem at 3600 with 17,19,19,38 and it seemed stable but spd info still not reported correctly

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/05 09:59:05 (permalink)
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    no change with training. tech support opened rma ticket. will find out in a week.



    I hope tech support resolves this for you. If second FTW-K ends up behaving same way maybe they could switch you to X299 Dark?
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/05 10:41:22 (permalink)
    it seems that there are 2 versions of the board. i have the fin stack and fan on the vrm, the other version has a heatpipe from pch to vrm. I don't know which is newer. I just want a stable system. An x299 dark would be nice, but I don't really oc so it would be wasted. Also Eleetx never showed spd data on mem tab, just MHz, ratio, and 1T( forget which timing) and thats it

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/05 11:09:58 (permalink)
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    I don't know which is newer. I just want a stable system. An x299 dark would be nice, but I don't really oc so it would be wasted.



    You are right, it is irrelevant which version of the board you got as long as it works the way it is supposed to. X299 Dark wouldn't be a waste if it gives you stability.
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 05:48:09 (permalink)
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    it seems that there are 2 versions of the board. i have the fin stack and fan on the vrm, the other version has a heatpipe from pch to vrm. I don't know which is newer. I just want a stable system. An x299 dark would be nice, but I don't really oc so it would be wasted. Also Eleetx never showed spd data on mem tab, just MHz, ratio, and 1T( forget which timing) and thats it




    To be completely fair, any RAM speeds over 2933MHz is technically overclocking for the 10980xe. With that said, if that same chip can run a bit faster RAM on other boards, then it should get close on the FTW K.
     
    I've run 8 sticks (64GB total) of Corsair Vengeance LPX at 2800MHz, 3200 MHz, and 3400MHz with my 10940X on my X299 FTW K, so I know it can take higher RAM speeds. 3400MHz did take a lot more tweaking and in the end wasn't completely stable with the amount of time that I was willing to invest in it, so I just called it a day at 3200MHz for day to day use (benchmarking I'll sometimes switch to 3400MHz).
     
    One thing to note - denser RAM / more RAM sticks are harder on the IMC. So if you're looking for pure speed, you may look into less RAM (32 GB total, 8GB sticks) to see if that gets you the speeds that you want.
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 06:40:49 (permalink)
    I understand that overclocking is a crapshoot, but I'm looking for dimm slot 1 to still be populated in bios. I would like the spd data to be read correctly in memtest and at all in eleetx. I reseated slot 1 over 10 times at one point and it only showed up when I switched to bios 2 with 1.26 loaded. SPD data has never shown up correctly on memtest or eleetx. Something isn't right, using a7800x, 10980xe, 16 different sticks of ram (all run through slot 1 with a quad channel setup) gave me the same results.

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 10:58:41 (permalink)
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    With that said, if that same chip can run a bit faster RAM on other boards, then it should get close on the FTW K.

     
    I think this is the bottom line here. If one CPU + memory combo runs just fine on one motherboard then that same combo should be able to run just fine on different mb. If it doesn't then difference/failure is due to that second motherboard.
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 17:31:11 (permalink)
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    arestavo
    With that said, if that same chip can run a bit faster RAM on other boards, then it should get close on the FTW K.

     
    I think this is the bottom line here. If one CPU + memory combo runs just fine on one motherboard then that same combo should be able to run just fine on different mb. If it doesn't then difference/failure is due to that second motherboard.




    Zoran C
     
    My sentiment exactly.... I ran across the same issue. I have a EVGA FTW-K and Two X299 Dark's, with a 7940X, 10920x and a 10940x and all three motherboard react... totally different with these CPU's
     
    It's the most flustering thing I've seen.... "BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WORLD TODAY" We have to take it or leave it :( By the way I cannot overclock any of these cpu's past 4600MHZ, even though two of them are from Silicon Lottery...
     
    Just my two cent's... before I probably will get pounded by the Professionals on these forum for help"

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 18:19:30 (permalink)
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    I ran across the same issue. I have a EVGA FTW-K and Two X299 Dark's, with a 7940X, 10920x and a 10940x and all three motherboard react... totally different with these CPU's

     
    To be honest, I’m not a motherboard guru, far from it, but in my “layman’s common sense” I believe that as long as one is keeping all variables same, and variables are not extremes, then there should be no differences in behavior and final result.
     
    mkimbro
    I cannot overclock any of these cpu's past 4600MHZ, even though two of them are from Silicon Lottery...

     
    Personally I have three 10920x on three X299 Dark (more than that went through my hands but they were not for me). I am not an overclocker so I can’t comment how they behave once pushed beyond Intel’s multipliers. What I do know though is that all three of mine seem to be running fine at 4600 MHz just by me using ‘per core multiplier’ setting of x46 and leaving everything else in CPU tab on auto.
     
    That doesn’t mean I consider these mbs perfect, I have my share of issues with them, too many for my liking (long story), but they aren’t in CPU area.
     
    mkimbro
    It's the most flustering thing I've seen.... "BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WORLD TODAY" We have to take it or leave it :(

     
    I don’t believe in “take it or leave it”. I believe I am the customer that is holding the money and if somebody wants my money they have to earn it and keep earning it. Otherwise I take my money somewhere else.
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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 18:34:16 (permalink)
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    mkimbro
    I ran across the same issue. I have a EVGA FTW-K and Two X299 Dark's, with a 7940X, 10920x and a 10940x and all three motherboard react... totally different with these CPU's

     
    To be honest, I’m not a motherboard guru, far from it, but in my “layman’s common sense” I believe that as long as one is keeping all variables same, and variables are not extremes, then there should be no differences in behavior and final result.
     
    mkimbro
    I cannot overclock any of these cpu's past 4600MHZ, even though two of them are from Silicon Lottery...

     
    Personally I have three 10920x on three X299 Dark (more than that went through my hands but they were not for me). I am not an overclocker so I can’t comment how they behave once pushed beyond Intel’s multipliers. What I do know though is that all three of mine seem to be running fine at 4600 MHz just by me using ‘per core multiplier’ setting of x46 and leaving everything else in CPU tab on auto.
     
    That doesn’t mean I consider these mbs perfect, I have my share of issues with them, too many for my liking (long story), but they aren’t in CPU area.
     
    mkimbro
    It's the most flustering thing I've seen.... "BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WORLD TODAY" We have to take it or leave it :(

     
    I don’t believe in “take it or leave it”. I believe I am the customer that is holding the money and if somebody wants my money they have to earn it and keep earning it. Otherwise I take my money somewhere else.




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    Thanks for the response... I like your philosophy, it makes sense,  however the last one, that I mentioned......"BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WORLD TODAY" We have to take it or leave it "....They Got your money... weather it works or not. You can go some where else, but they got you money at the time... :)

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    Re: x299 FTW-K acting strange 2021/08/06 18:51:53 (permalink)
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    They Got your money... weather it works or not. You can go some where else, but they got you money at the time... :)



    True, and that is unfortunately an issue across the board, not just with companies and not just with technology ones. Is it frustrating/aggravating? Yes, very much so. That discussion goes way beyond this thread. Will going somewhere else completely stop that behavior? No. But at least I will try to make a difference. 
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