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2019/02/05 14:10:29 (permalink)
Is this normal, i check reviews and these things draw about 190W just at stock. I didnt face any instability on my pc but i think maybe something wrong with my settings on my bios. I just use oc robot and didnt find anything odd with my settings when i check it manually. I just dial down 4.8 ghz to 4.7ghz for dial use. I tried core temp and hw monitor both reports about the same power draw nothing more then 60W. Is this normal ?


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/06 07:41:11 (permalink)
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Is this normal, i check reviews and these things draw about 190W just at stock. I didnt face any instability on my pc but i think maybe something wrong with my settings on my bios. I just use oc robot and didnt find anything odd with my settings when i check it manually. I just dial down 4.8 ghz to 4.7ghz for dial use. I tried core temp and hw monitor both reports about the same power draw nothing more then 60W. Is this normal ?




Can you try intel XTU? Something is not right..

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/06 09:23:28 (permalink)
 

Can you try intel XTU? Something is not right..



 Well is hovers around 40W at best. I dont think i have the most golden chip with very low tdp, i wish it is lol.

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 07:04:47 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2019/02/07 13:59:52
It’s misreading the power draw. There’s no possible way it’s that low. It’s simple enough...

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 08:08:02 (permalink)
mine also looking strange!!!
post edited by Sajin - 2019/02/08 18:59:47

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 08:09:49 (permalink)
Here is mine!!!!!!!!!

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 10:12:08 (permalink)
Gotta love software readings. 


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 12:15:20 (permalink)
My CPU readings have been incorrect from day 1
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/07 13:26:44 (permalink)
oki i join what option is speed specteum on dark ?
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/08 17:46:31 (permalink)
Has anybody know wt cause this and how to fix this. Cause im confused that multiple software had been reporting this reading. I would honestly want to know how much actual power it is drawing. But i did read somewhere that this is normal for this x299 evga board. I am still not 100 percent sure, is there any bios settings to make the software reading work ?.
post edited by navinnaido36 - 2019/02/08 18:19:22
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/08 17:49:55 (permalink)
Yah i know that but how and why ? I more interested in a solution.
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/08 18:35:38 (permalink)
Sounds like all of you should contact EVGA customer service and ask them why the board is not reporting the proper CPU power draw.

https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/

If multiple people contact them, they are more likely to look into it and provide an answer.

This is a user to user forum. The odds of an EVGA employee reading this thread is a matter of chance and fortune.
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/10 19:42:17 (permalink)

Well this answer is basically no use for me. It didn't help me solve my problems since issue across all software like, xtu, hwmonitor, open source monitor, aida 64. The power draw is just different from all this software because not all share the same stress test but overall they are very inaccurate. Why it is very inaccurate is my issue. Wt sensor is the software reading this power draw from ?. Basically saying other motherboard have this issue too is not fine since this is an extreme board, so reading the power draw is i think super essential considering everybody wants to know their oc power draw for 24/7 use and stability. So yah this is why thing like this i dont deal with customer support sometimes people in this forum have more knowledge and insight.

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/10 19:48:21 (permalink)
Basically the tech is saying software readings are inaccurate, and to not worry about it.


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/10 19:55:23 (permalink)
To get a more accurate reading simply buy a kill a watt meter, and plug your rig into it. After doing that take some idle power draw readings then load up a cpu stress test and subtract your idle readings from your max load readings to get a power reading for your cpu.
post edited by Sajin - 2019/02/10 19:57:24


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/11 09:10:03 (permalink)
Here after ran OOCT for over 10 minutes...

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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/12 17:24:37 (permalink)
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Basically the tech is saying software readings are inaccurate, and to not worry about it.




If thats the case can i at least know why since i had a x99 and am4 mobo before and i didnt had this issue. I well aware u can use a watt meter to take the reading but thats not the point. Its a high end mobo. Im not sure it is something from software parts of things to read accurate power draw from the sensor or such sensor doesnt exist on x299 dark ?. Its not right saying the stuff doesnt work and have no explanation why it doesnt work when technically it suppose to work. LOL im just going to ask actually hardware overclocking to see if he knows something. I am not going anywhere usefull in this thread.
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/12 17:46:12 (permalink)
The reason it's inaccurate is because it's a software reading.


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/12 19:30:59 (permalink)
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The reason it's inaccurate is because it's a software reading.

It's not inaccurate for other boards.
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/12 19:33:33 (permalink)
So complain to the software creators?


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 04:38:07 (permalink)
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So complain to the software creators?

You are being dense. If Intel XTU can't read the CPU TDP correctly, it's not a software issue. Intel's CPU boost algorithm is based on power draw, among other things. You know ... short term power draw, long term power draw, short window time, long window time, current limits like VCCIA, ..? This is all off the top of my head, so don't squawk if I get some terminology wrong. CERTAINLY, as an overclocking enthusiast, you are aware of this. Maybe EVGA broke it on purpose for better overclocking or better benchmark scores at the same apparent BIOS settings compared to other boards? There is at least one video on GamersNexus dedicated to board venders purposely playing tricks with TDP settings in BIOS, but this looks like more than a BIOS trick issue; more like a hardware issue.

You could say its a blessing in disguise since it would mean that the CPU won't TDP or current throttle. But it doesn't appear to be operating as Intel intended. If there was a BIOS option to break or unbreak Intel power limit readings, that would be one thing; at least it would be the user's choice. But to say "Intel, fix your software" is just plain laughable. EVGA, fix your hardware.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2019/02/13 05:28:54
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 05:34:25 (permalink)
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So complain to the software creators?

You are being dense. If Intel XTU can't read the CPU TDP correctly, it's not a software issue. Intel's CPU boost algorithm is based on power draw, among other things. You know ... short term power draw, long term power draw, short window time, long window time, current limits like VCCIA, ..? This is all off the top of my head, so don't squawk if I get some terminology wrong. CERTAINLY, as an overclocking enthusiast, you are aware of this. Maybe EVGA broke it on purpose for better overclocking or better benchmark scores at the same apparent BIOS settings compared to other boards? There is at least one video on GamersNexus dedicated to board venders purposely playing tricks with TDP settings in BIOS, but this looks like more than a BIOS trick issue; more like a hardware issue.

You could say its a blessing in disguise since it would mean that the CPU won't TDP or current throttle. But it doesn't appear to be operating as Intel intended. If there was a BIOS option to break or unbreak Intel power limit readings, that would be one thing; at least it would be the user's choice. But to say "Intel, fix your software" is just plain laughable. EVGA, fix your hardware.


You nailed it..I was going to say that too but you explained in the best possible way. That's why I was like wttttt when EVGA support give me that dank reply.
post edited by navinnaido36 - 2019/02/13 05:36:43
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 12:10:12 (permalink)
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So complain to the software creators?

If Intel XTU can't read the CPU TDP correctly, it's not a software issue

So says you, but you can't prove that it isn't a software issue. Software readings are known to be inaccurate. That is common knowledge. I'll let you slide on calling me dense this time. ;)
 
Oh, and I just took a reading for myself...

 
Guess my hardware must be broken too, and I don't even own an evga motherboard. 


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 16:10:18 (permalink)
The x299 Dark disables SVID when overclocking which means you will not get an accurate package power draw in software suites 
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 16:28:07 (permalink)
Well that explains wt is going on. I'm happy with that.
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 17:12:15 (permalink)
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The x299 Dark disables SVID when overclocking which means you will not get an accurate package power draw in software suites 


If that is the case then the op wouldn't be able to get a voltage reading inside cpu-z.


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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 18:52:56 (permalink)
Ive never seen disabling SVID across x79,x99 and x299 cause cpu-z to fail to get a Vcore reading, however it will stop programs like HWinfo64 , XTU and Hwmon from getting a package power reading. In my experience at least
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Re: i9 7920x 4.7 ghz only 45 - 55 W package power draw ? 2019/02/13 19:31:30 (permalink)
As long as it fails to work properly due to a user's choice (overclocking) but works properly by default, I am happy.
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