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2018/06/28 02:09:29 (permalink)
So I installed a waterblock on my GPU, and the temps seem higher than they were stock. I'm using a push method, but before I was using a pull and it was still extremely hot (80 c) while in game, and idle is at 38c. My tubing is at the bottom of where it's mounted, but it travels up and then down to the GPU, which I plan on changing but need a bit more time to work on it. Do you think rearranging the tubing will solve the problems, or is it a faulty pump? I'm also using different fans for it as well, not the EVGA ones and I feel the hot air blowing out from the radiator pretty hard. There are gaps from the fan on the radiator where some of it isn't covered completely, but it's a tiny amount. Should I just go back to the stock fan it came with or do you think it wouldn't make a huge difference.
 
I'm just puzzled as to why it's getting so hot, it doesn't seem like it should be getting up to those temps.
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    1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 08:17:47 (permalink)
    I initially posted this in the GPU section, but I feel like it's more fitting here.  Hopefully somebody will delete the other one.
     
    So I installed a waterblock on my GPU, and the temps seem higher than they were stock. I'm using a push method, but before I was using a pull and it was still extremely hot (80 c) while in game, and idle is at 38c. My tubing is at the bottom of where it's mounted, but it travels up and then down to the GPU, which I plan on changing but need a bit more time to work on it. Do you think rearranging the tubing will solve the problems, or is it a faulty pump? I'm also using different fans for it as well, not the EVGA ones and I feel the hot air blowing out from the radiator pretty hard. There are gaps from the fan on the radiator where some of it isn't covered completely, but it's a tiny amount. Should I just go back to the stock fan it came with or do you think it wouldn't make a huge difference.
     
    I don't think it's a faulty pump, because I feel a vibration coming from a tube, and it's getting hot, and the other is staying relatively cool, but not as much vibration. i'll probably swap out the fan for the stock EVGA one and put it as a pull, and maybe keep the other one as a push if i can get screws for it.
     
    I'm just puzzled as to why it's getting so hot, it doesn't seem like it should be getting up to those temps.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 08:29:32 (permalink)
    Any chance of getting a photo of your setup posted?
    What water block did you use?
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 08:36:43 (permalink)
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    Any chance of getting a photo of your setup posted?
    What water block did you use?

     
    It's the 1080ti SC Hybrid.
     

     
    Here's a pic of everything and another one of the fan where there's the gaps.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 10:39:41 (permalink)
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    Do you think rearranging the tubing will solve the problems, or is it a faulty pump?

    Definitely sounds like the pump isn't working at full capacity.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 10:49:31 (permalink)
    Merging this thread with your original thread.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 10:50:52 (permalink)
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    Do you think rearranging the tubing will solve the problems, or is it a faulty pump?

    Definitely sounds like the pump isn't working at full capacity.


    Thanks for the merge. I feel the tubes vibrating but the cooler one is softer but tonight I'm gonna flip it around and hopefully it'll solve the issue, but idk. Would you think that could be the main issue or would there be more? 
     
    Edit: Somebody suggested to reseat the pump and apply more thermal to it, which i may do as well as flip the tubing around. I can't PM him back but I'll definitely give it a shot.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:04:43 (permalink)
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    Do you think rearranging the tubing will solve the problems, or is it a faulty pump?

    Definitely sounds like the pump isn't working at full capacity.


    Thanks for the merge. I feel the tubes vibrating but the cooler one is softer but tonight I'm gonna flip it around and hopefully it'll solve the issue, but idk. Would you think that could be the main issue or would there be more? 
     
    Edit: Somebody suggested to reseat the pump and apply more thermal to it, which i may do as well as flip the tubing around. I can't PM him back but I'll definitely give it a shot.



    True, it could be substandard application of thermal paste. What are your ambient (room) temps? You should be idling at a lower temp.

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:11:44 (permalink)
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    True, it could be substandard application of thermal paste. What are your ambient (room) temps? You should be idling at a lower temp.


    Yeah the original paste on there was a bit dried up and I used the thermal pad it came with, but I think I'll try taking that off and putting paste on.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:32:24 (permalink)
    Could be a paste issue since you said it was kinda dried up when you put it on.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:36:57 (permalink)
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    Could be a paste issue since you said it was kinda dried up when you put it on.




    I'm not sure what to think of that. I am assuming by 'pad' that was a typo for paste. Meaning they used the pre-applied paste that came with the Hybrid...but one never knows.

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:41:11 (permalink)
    The preapplied application looks like a pad...
     

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 11:58:17 (permalink)
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    The preapplied application looks like a pad...
     



     
    Looks like pre-applied paste to me. That aside, his explanation of the sequence of events...one would assume he didn't leave the original dried paste, and that the pre-applied 'pad' (paste) on the AIO block wasn't dried out...that does not really make sense. So, a normal installation would have you cleaning off the old Shin-Etsu stock paste, and installing the Hybrid cooler with the pre-applied paste.
    The OP's temps are out of the range of what we consider normal for this configuration. Either a defective pump or installation of the AIO would seem to be the likely culprits.
     






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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 12:48:48 (permalink)
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    Could be a paste issue since you said it was kinda dried up when you put it on.


    Yeah I'm just gonna try to reinstall the pump and reapply paste, as well as fix the tubing because it's got a lot of pressure on the tubes how it's bent. I don't think the pumps paste was dry, but the stock paste was. I had somebody else install it so I'm not sure if he cleaned it but I'm sure he did. I'll clean it anyway and reapply some paste.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 13:36:01 (permalink)
    Looking at the two water tubes and they way they go up high over the CPU tubes then back down could cause a water bubble to form in the tube at that high point and cut down the water flow.
    Maybe take the radiator off the back and keep the tube at the bottom, and run it with the tubes straightened out so if there is air it can migrate to the top of the radiator.
    Set the radiator on a box out side the case with tubes on the bottom. See how it goes.
     
    Also if using a push/pull, check a couple times to make sure both fans are blowing in the same direction.
     

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 17:42:28 (permalink)
    Ok I took it apart and cleaned and re applied some paste to it. And changed the tubes to be a bit better flowing. Here's the pic



    The tubes are kind of bent but not as drastic, I had it idling for around 10 minutes and it felt pretty cold coming out the back but that's with no monitor so I'll definitely test it when I get home and report back
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 18:58:12 (permalink)
    I didn't get to take it out and let it run the air to the top of the radiator yet, but it seemed to climb to 80c a little slower this time after what I've done, but it's still not really working how it should. I'll be sure to take it off and do that later and report back. sitting at 83c right now in a PUBG match, no bueno.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 19:50:08 (permalink)
    It's the pump. Time to rma.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 20:11:42 (permalink)
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    It's the pump. Time to rma.


    I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. Now I have to disassemble and reassemble the og shell, but first I'll try leveling the tubes and if that doesn't work the stock evga fan will be thrown in there to see if that works
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 20:47:03 (permalink)
    Let us know how it goes.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:19:50 (permalink)
    Should be low 40c on load.. 20c on idle. The pump is toast.

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:31:48 (permalink)
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    Let us know how it goes.


     
    So right now in game PUBG, all Ultra settings, 144hz, it's sitting stable at 54c with the stock EVGA fan plugged into the 4pin sysfan header. It's like 6 degrees cooler than the stock fans, but it's a pretty intensive game. My case is also opened and it's pretty cool in my room so there's also that. I haven't put the lid back on.
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    Should be low 40c on load.. 20c on idle. The pump is toast.


    I thought it should be lower than it is, but I feel the pumps moving liquid around, would it just be not working to it's full potential? 53-55c on PUBG with max settings.
     
    Also I'm pulling the air not pushing, i may switch it around and see what happens. Not sure what you guys reccommend. I don't have long enough screws to do a push/pull config.
     
    Edit: Also, maybe I didn't use enough thermal paste for around the center of the copper mount? There seemed to be a good amount on there, and i just did some small blobs, like 8 of them around it. There should be enough in the center though I made sure of that.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:38:01 (permalink)
    Well that is a lot better. 
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:39:07 (permalink)
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    Let us know how it goes.


     
    So right now in game PUBG, all Ultra settings, 144hz, it's sitting stable at 54c with the stock EVGA fan plugged into the 4pin sysfan header. It's like 6 degrees cooler than the stock fans, but it's a pretty intensive game. My case is also opened and it's pretty cool in my room so there's also that. I haven't put the lid back on.
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    Should be low 40c on load.. 20c on idle. The pump is toast.


    I thought it should be lower than it is, but I feel the pumps moving liquid around, would it just be not working to it's full potential? 53-55c on PUBG with max settings.
     
    Also I'm pulling the air not pushing, i may switch it around and see what happens. Not sure what you guys reccommend. I don't have long enough screws to do a push/pull config.




    Depending upon your ambient temps, 54C is entirely normal with the stock fan. I can typically stay below 50C using push/pull fans. Below 50C under a sustained load over time is pretty optimistic with a 120mm rad and the stock fan. So....apparently now, it is running completely normal.

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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:40:08 (permalink)
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    Well that is a lot better. 


    Yeah, peep the edit I just did about thermal. That may be one reason why it's a bit higher as well, but I'm not sure. I feel like an idiot for not trying the EVGA to start, but I didn't think it would make a 30 degree difference. So pump not toast? This gives me a little bit of hope lol.
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    Depending upon your ambient temps, 54C is entirely normal with the stock fan. I can typically stay below 50C using push/pull fans. Below 50C under a sustained load over time is pretty optimistic with a 120mm rad and the stock fan. So....apparently now, it is running completely normal.


    ahhh good to know. Thanks. I guess I solved it by doing the most obvious thing I should've done in the beginning :\
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:48:29 (permalink)
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    So pump not toast?

    Correct. Didn't think the fan would make that big of a difference.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 21:51:22 (permalink)
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    So pump not toast?

    Correct. Didn't think the fan would make that big of a difference.


    Yeah me either. Guess Cooler Master really isn't a master after all. If i get long enough screws though I'll probably use it as a push and keep the evga on the back, just for the slight help and LEDs. But for now I guess  I'll just unplug it and set it aside. :\


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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 22:05:44 (permalink)
    Which exact fan was that? Have a link to it?
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 22:18:04 (permalink)
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    Which exact fan was that? Have a link to it?


     
    It was this.
     

    MASTERFAN PRO 120

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    I think the problem may have been that it was air pressure, and another was some of the radiator wasn't covered with the fan, so air was escaping the sides and hitting the glass window on the case, and just causing that corner to get super hot. It won't be a terrible intake fan with the EVGA pulling out, but I just really want it for the aesthetics at this point.
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    Re: 1080ti SC Black Edition Hybrid High Temps 2018/06/28 22:21:57 (permalink)
    Hmm. Did you have the fan running in performance mode?
     
    The stock evga fan does 4.04 mmH20. The cooler master fan can do 4.6 mmH20 in performance mode.
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