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Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again?

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2014/09/19 04:07:24 (permalink)
The current 900 series models have 1 DVI, 1HDMI and 3 DisplayPort connectors. From what I can see in the product pictures, the three DisplayPorts and the HDMI port are on the first row on the PCB, curiously with the HDMI port somewhere in the middle for some weird reason, and the DVI port on the second. This means, when mounting a water cooler onto the card, they can't occupy a single PCIe slot, because the DVI port can't be conveniently removed, especially not, if the end user needs it for 3D Vision, which last time I checked was only supported via Dual-Link DVI and not DisplayPort (might have changed now). Why aren't you using mini-DisplayPorts and mini-HDMI (like on GTX 480 and 580), possibly with breakout adapters, to fit them all on the first row. I mean, even with air cooling that ought to improve the airflow out of the chassis, right?

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 04:51:24 (permalink)
    This is the basic design from NVIDIA especially for the vanilla models. 

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 06:01:36 (permalink)
    Yes, and it's horrible. But since it's only the ports, rearranging them without interfering with the rest of the component and screw hole layout shouldn't be too much trouble, no? At worst, a detachable plug for the second row (and thus no DVI) would still be better than this. Removing it without a soldering iron isn't feasible, removing it in the first place incredibly difficult, not to mention, reattaching it when you need it or plan on reselling the thing after 1-2 years, when it is to be replaced.

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 06:07:04 (permalink)
    Its just cost-savings, each of those dongles adds to the BOM, if you bought DP to mini-DP they would cost you minimum $3-5 from a place like Monoprice.  For Nvidia/EVGA maybe only .50 cents but it does add up.  I have seen some pictures of custom cards using DP to mini-DP, so you may be in luck in the future.

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 06:42:07 (permalink)
    The real question is why would eVGA remove a DP and add another DVI port back on the FTW and Classified models???
     



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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 06:47:24 (permalink)
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    Its just cost-savings, each of those dongles adds to the BOM, if you bought DP to mini-DP they would cost you minimum $3-5 from a place like Monoprice.  For Nvidia/EVGA maybe only .50 cents but it does add up.  I have seen some pictures of custom cards using DP to mini-DP, so you may be in luck in the future.




    That's definitely not it. They're like 13.5 cents per piece at 1000 units. The product packaging is more expensive than that, and that's without factoring in the salary of the designers who designed it. Being able to fit twice the amount of cards inside a machine leads to sales opportunity, which is worth far more than that.

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 06:53:32 (permalink)
    It all adds up in quantity though and its not just the dongles, it goes all the way up the supply chain.  As we have seen a lot of these 970s use the 760 PCB, so you are looking at PCBs, connectors, and backplanes too. 

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    Re: Why the dual slot connectivity port arrangement again? 2014/09/19 14:16:13 (permalink)
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    The real question is why would eVGA remove a DP and add another DVI port back on the FTW and Classified models???
     


    That's what I'm wondering, hoping there will be a version with the 3 Display ports as well that we can use.
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