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2019/08/10 05:07:22 (permalink)
Haven't seen any any mention of these dogs here yet. No bonus estimated. It's a different work unit than ipkha posted about. I'm lucky enough to have 2 of these running now.
 


 

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 05:27:04 (permalink)
    The 1070ti rig just finished. Maybe everything is okay.
     
    12:23:43:WU00:FS01:0x21:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
    12:23:43:WU00:FS01:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64)
    12:23:43:WU00:FS01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND error:NO_ERROR project:14180 run:13 clone:385 gen:13 core:0x21 unit:0x0000000f0002894c5d3b5697140fca9d
    12:23:43:WU00:FS01:Uploading 9.02MiB to 155.247.166.220
    12:23:43:WU00:FS01:Connecting to 155.247.166.220:8080
    12:23:49:WU00:FS01:Upload 71.34%
    12:23:53:WU00:FS01:Upload complete
    12:23:53:WU00:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
    12:23:53:WU00:FS01:Final credit estimate, 171697.00 points
    12:23:53:WU00:FS01:Cleaning up
     
     


     

     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 06:09:54 (permalink)
    Most all the current Core 21 take from 5 to 6 hours to complete at the start but seem to complete in 4 to 5 Hours.
    And really Crappy Points to really make it one of the worst WU ever.
    Going on 10 Days 24 Hours a Day running a Single GTX 1080 Ti
    A Crappy Core 21 WU to run for the New Points Needed now for the Bucks for sure.

    https://apps.foldingathome.org/psummary

    CPU WUs (27) are now higher in number of WU then GPU WUs (13) now.
    The total number of WU are really down from Last year and even the few years before.
    Folding is not as big as an effort as it was 3 or 4 years ago before (Missing Word) stated to take over IMO.
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 07:47:23 (permalink)
    Well I did get full credit for it somewhere in these 4 wu's.

     

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 07:49:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2019/08/10 10:17:32
    I have the same issue, the FAHClient only shows base points and I've currently running two P14180 WUs (which will finish in about 2 hours).
     
    I've just found some info on the Folding Forum about a change in the FAH API that is discontinuing the diplay of the k-factor.
    It was posted in the "HFM.NET monitoring application" thread by toTOW and I think it's also affecting the FAHClient PPD calculation.
    I still use the older FAHClient version 7.4.4, so I don't know if the newer version 7.5.1 also could have this problem?
     
    See this post in the HFM.NET - Monitoring Application for Folding@Home v6/v7 thread.
     

    by toTOW » Thu Aug 08, 2019
     
    HFM PPD computation are going to be broken in the next psummary updates : there has been a change in FAH API that is discontinuing the display of k-factor. All projects will use the same value which will be hardcoded and no longer published in project summary API.

    The current symptom is that HFM will see a 0 for k-factor and will disable QRB for these projects, showing PPD based only on base point.

    post edited by DutchForce - 2019/08/10 07:53:53


     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 08:17:44 (permalink)
    I'm running 7.5.1 on both the windows and linux rigs in the screen shots in the OP. Thanks for the info Dutch.


     

     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 09:04:21 (permalink)
    Sad News for QRB and HFM.NET

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 10:14:30 (permalink)
    I've also got the usual full credit (with QRB points) for both P14180 WUs.
    So we need a new version of FAHClient and HFM.NET to fix this PPD calculation issue with the change they made in the FAH API.


     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 10:19:05 (permalink)
    Sigh....
     
    What are the odds that during the Summer anything will be fixed - before the Fall Semester starts ?

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 10:19:13 (permalink)
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    I've also got the usual full credit (with QRB points) for both P14180 WUs.
    So we need a new version of FAHClient and HFM.NET to fix this PPD calculation issue with the change they made in the FAH API.

    You would think that they would have released a new Client Before making this change.

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 12:37:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2019/08/10 17:29:31
    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=31758
     
    Explains it all.


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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/10 16:05:32 (permalink)
    I have a P14179 WU running now which also shows only the base points. This project comes also from Work Server 155.247.166.220, so I think all projects from this server will only show base points PPD now (GPU Core21 Projects 14178-14181 and 14184-14187).


     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 14:57:22 (permalink)
    P14180 WU also kicking my gpu's in the 4$$...lol
     
    Thanks for the info gang
     



     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 17:03:49 (permalink)
    they are "Fun"  - long suckers
     

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 17:20:51 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    they are "Fun"  - long suckers
     




    Those aren't long, I just did a Gimps primegrid 100 million digit task that took just over 107 days crunching 24/7.
    i5-8600k hexcore 4.3ghz. It was not prime . If it were prime, the prize money would be nice, 50Gs. Has to be split though.
    I do not think I will crunch another one of those anytime soon. Maybe over the Winter into theI'llSpring I do another one. 

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 17:28:25 (permalink)
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    they are "Fun"  - long suckers
     




    Those aren't long, I just did a Gimps primegrid 100 million digit task that took just over 107 days crunching 24/7.
    i5-8600k hexcore 4.3ghz. It was not prime . If it were prime, the prize money would be nice, 50Gs. Has to be split though.
    I do not think I will crunch another one of those anytime soon. Maybe over the Winter into theI'llSpring I do another one. 


    107 days

    What helps More - Core Count - or - MHz ?
     
    50 G prize $$$$$$
     
    So GPUs are not able to do that kind of work ?
     
    Now where did I put that Tesseract ?

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 17:57:51 (permalink)
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    they are "Fun"  - long suckers
     




    Those aren't long, I just did a Gimps prime95 100 million digit task that took just over 107 days crunching 24/7.
    i5-8600k hexcore 4.3ghz. It was not prime . If it were prime, the prize money would be nice, 50Gs. Has to be split though.
    I do not think I will crunch another one of those anytime soon. Maybe over the Winter into theI'llSpring I do another one. 


    107 days

    What helps More - Core Count - or - MHz ?
     
    50 G prize $$$$$$
     
    So GPUs are not able to do that kind of work ?
     
    Now where did I put that Tesseract ?




    I would say core count + mhz + memory speed. It used 6 cores on the one task, multithread.
    Not sure what the max number of cores it can use at once is. Or point where it would not help adding more cores. 
    The 100m tasks are huge and can not fit in the CPUs cache, so fast memory would help a lot.
    On smaller tasks I have done that did not fit in the cache, going from DDR4 3000 to 3700 made a difference.
    I guess the GPU can't do these calculations on that type of work
    The 50G gets spilt between Gimps and the finder. Maybe the double checker too, I am not sure on that.
     
    Correction, it is Gimps prime95 not Gimps primegrid. The work they both do is very similar

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/11 18:55:29 (permalink)
    "It was not prime " Bummer No Prime.

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 04:24:16 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2019/08/12 05:07:45
    Looks like harlam357 has updated HFM.net to reflect the change in how points are calculated

    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9903&start=630#p308260
     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 04:59:30 (permalink)
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    Looks like harlam357 has updated HFM.net to reflect the change in how points are calculated

    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9903&start=630#p308260
     
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    Re: HFM.NET - Monitoring Application for Folding@Home v6/v7

    by harlam357 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:42 am
    New Version: 0.9.11 - Revision 815 - Project Site - Download

    - Change: Update for changed F@H psummary API (merged PR 301 by jcoffland)

    If you've experienced HFM not reporting the correct PPD/Credit for quick return bonus (QRB) projects, then install this update and manually download the project summary.

    ---

    Need help with HFM? Have a feature request? Please join the discussions. Post in the HFM Google Group.

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    same Info - I just thought it was easier to read the Version - Know exactly which file to get
     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 17:30:07 (permalink)
    Folding 24 Hours a Day Non-Stop

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 20:35:41 (permalink)
    Yep pretty sad! About 680K today from 1070ti, down about 33% from core22 beta's.


     

     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 22:32:15 (permalink)
    The stats have been messed up across the board on everything for us tonight.  Cores 21 & 7 point estimates have been problematic on my install for the last 2 days.  Hope it gets fixed soon; I'm trying to benchmark a new system...



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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 23:22:26 (permalink)
    @DrSchmidt

    & Now Stanford has been down - No 9PM or 12 PM updates for 12Aug 

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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/12 23:40:21 (permalink)
    Ugh...I think that I remember reading somewhere that it's never been easier to donate...



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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/13 06:39:02 (permalink)
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    Yep pretty sad! About 680K today from 1070ti, down about 33% from core22 beta's.

     
    I'm only pulling about 500K on my 1070 for these new WUs.



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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/13 11:32:50 (permalink)
    This is as wonky as wonky gets, lol



     
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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/13 11:45:51 (permalink)
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    This is as wonky as wonky gets, lol



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    Re: What's up with core21 14180's 2019/08/14 05:48:16 (permalink)
    Just wait till you run 14220
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