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Before every AMD release, I always hear crazy statements such as "Zen will dominate so much that the 6950X will drop in price to $200!" or how AMD is going to destroy Nvidia or Intel. Seriously, every release it's the same old story. I sort of want it to happen too since both Intel and Nvidia need serious competition from AMD rather than the joke they've been putting on the last few years. With that said, what induces someone to become an AMD fanboy? Is it because they can't afford a nice Intel CPU or they hate the "bigger" corporation? I'd like to hear what you folks think. Also, feel free to post crazy statements made by AMD fanboys. I enjoy reading statements made by fanboys of any kind, as they're usually over-the-top.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Moving to General Hardware.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/13 21:27:22
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I honestly don't understand the AMD fanboys myself. Intel + Nvidia is the best. I think they are just in denial. 
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 01:56:23
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AMD hasn't had it's act together on the CPU front in a decade now. I don't see any rational expectation for fanboyism other than people have invested hundreds of dollars into something that doesn't work as well as the competition but works well enough that they don't have buyer's remorse.
That being said, for years, AMD did some things right in the GPU market that Nvidia did wrong or just didn't understand how to market properly. There were features for a good half decade on the AMD side that Nvidia didn't cover in the consumer market in a competitive manner. In those cases I can understand the fanboyism for AMD over Nvidia. Heck even AMD Markham does demo builds sometimes using Intel CPUs to show off their GPUs.
We all know the score on that front for a decade now. Those that chose to ignore that history are too close to the issue to see the forest through the trees and are monetarily and emotionally invested in something that doesn't quite match up to expectations.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 02:11:08
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AMD is still playing catchup with Intel and NVIDIA, but some of their items are priced very well versus the performance they give you.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 06:20:56
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AMD fanboys are just a bunch of tightwads who don't want to pay for a quality product. Enough said?
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 06:30:24
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Some people just pretend to be I think just to stir the pot.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 06:48:01
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I almost bought an AMD desktop by HP from Walmart around 2006 or 2007 but that was before I knew better. Shortly afterwards HP announced they would no longer use AMD products and that was the clincher for me. I didn't know nothing about nothing at the time. All I know is that it met the minimum specs I needed to play certain games I had purchased.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 06:50:53
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Some people just pretend to be I think just to stir the pot.
That might be the case but some are just stubborn old hoots thats never seen what a Real card can do. And there are some that just dont need that much video card just to troll the net.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 08:23:30
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I don't really understand blind fanboyism of anything really. When it comes down to PC parts, I'm just trying to get the best deal. Ideally, the best deal on a part that I won't have to RMA.
I've had many video cards from both sides, AMD video cards are not bad. Crossfire has been a lot more forgiving than SLI from my experiences. Performance on AMD's side may not be exceeding Nvidia's when it comes down to flagship vs flagship... But when it comes down to performance, you get a damn good deal for something that isn't far behind.
As for CPU's... I saw AMD exiting that side of the market when they gave up their fab in 2009. However, I believe Global Foundries will catch up to Intel sometime soon, with the recent article I read about Intel and moore's law coming to an end.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 08:46:33
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I never had a AMD video board fail without some help from me anyway but I've only owned two of them. My HD5770 is still going strong in a budget PC I built for my nephew. I just sold my HD5870 and that was an RMA replacement because I wanted to be clever and flash an ASUS VBIOS onto it just so I could use the ASUS overclocking utility. It turns out that the video board was more clever than I was and promptly bricked itself in a show of defiance. To Sapphire's credit they replaced it no questions asked. I lucked out and swore I would never mess with another VBIOS. Then when I got my MSI GTX-980 Gaming 4G I threw that rule out the window and it was worth it. These video boards rock with a modded BIOS.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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I used to be all AMD and ATI when the Phenom processors came out and used to praise them all the time. Then my friend asked me to build him a rig with Intel and Nvidia. Once I was finished I tested a game on it I had the disk for and it ran so smoothly I haven't looked back since 
Oh man, that's when I made the switch to Intel. Phenom processors was the end of my love for AMD. The whole TLB error was an issue I had endure that made me throw in the towel on AMD and switch over to the Intel Core2 line-up and never look back. Dealing with Nvidia's motherboard chipset at first was not fun, but once I got over to an Intel chipset, it was smooth sailing ever since.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/14 16:27:16
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It's a similar question that AMD fanboys ask Nvidia/intel guys. Why - are - you - an - Nvidia - fanboy? You know the prices on Nvidia are outrageous compared to AMD, yet you buy them anyway. We all heard it. I feel it's more about comfort ability, customer service, and experience. When someone finds that sweet spot and comfort zone with certain products, it's hard for them to switch it up to a different company and give it a shot. Then they hear the flack and attacks from other people claiming that the other company is pure garbage. So now you have the pressure from other users (a lot of times those people haven't even had the experience to try AMD or Nvidia, and are just trolling for nothing) pressuring them to try something new. Finally, fear. The fear to try a new company, even though many claim you will get good results... Why risk it? What if you don't get good results? Now you have to RMA the stuff, wait for you money to come back, re order the parts you should have purchased because that is what your conscious told you to buy, but you gave them the benefit of the doubt. However, we just don't know unless we try, but it's hard to try if we don't know. Gambling is huge in this market. For some, it's not worth it. It is better to stick with what you know is good, and are already comfortable with. Some people, though, take it to the "next level". Edit: Within a fanboy, to them it's best to hide their "fear" and to show everyone that trying the "opposing" team would not be the right move, because there is "flawed performance in AMD" OR the "prices are too high, and you can get this awesome AMD processor and just overclock it and get the same results." Both are victims of fear because they cannot give themselves a chance to try the other "team" because of that fear.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Edit: Within a fanboy, to them it's best to hide their "fear" and to show everyone that trying the "opposing" team would not be the right move, because there is "flawed performance in AMD" OR the "prices are too high, and you can get this awesome AMD processor and just overclock it and get the same results." Both are victims of fear because they cannot give themselves a chance to try the other "team" because of that fear.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 00:42:32
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I guess y'all are gonna hate on me, because I needed to upgrade from my prebuilt system and due to cost considerations, went AMD. I'm not a hard core gamer, only casual, and so far what I put together, I am more than pleased with. I do like Intel products, but I was trying to build a "budget" system. Maybe when I win the lottery, I can upgrade again.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 04:06:11
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I guess y'all are gonna hate on me, because I needed to upgrade from my prebuilt system and due to cost considerations, went AMD. I'm not a hard core gamer, only casual, and so far what I put together, I am more than pleased with. I do like Intel products, but I was trying to build a "budget" system. Maybe when I win the lottery, I can upgrade again.
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P.S. My new set-up is NOT what I have listed below.....
I don't think that this thread was to attack AMD users, but question the notion why AMD fanboys are what they are. So, you're good. lol
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 13:42:45
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What makes a fanboy period?
Who cares what other people use?
I gave AMD a chance back in the R9 290x days.
Why? Well a 290 with a water block was 500 bucks and a titan was 1,500 bucks.
The math said get three water cooled R9 290 cards for 1,500 bucks.
Its been a good ride so far, CCC drivers were rock solid and Crimson/Windows 10 have been great too. My cards just keep getting faster.
But because I had a good run with them doesn't mean my next rig and all rigs will only be AMD, I think its going to come down to who is giving me the most power for the best price.
However using the R9 stuff in my builds and other builds I can see why people like it so much and I can also see who doesn't know what they are talking about when they start bashing it.
The CPUs are easy to figure out. They are dirt cheap and will run any game with no problems. Will they ever out perform a intel CPU, probably not. But for 100 bucks, who cares.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 13:59:58
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Seth89, I was waiting for you to reply, and I knew you would.  You definitely know when to take certain avenues when assembling your rig. Props to you sir.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 18:50:41
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Seth89, I was waiting for you to reply, and I knew you would.
You definitely know when to take certain avenues when assembling your rig. Props to you sir.
I almost didn't. But I have been so impressed so far with the R9 stuff I had too. If I wasn't so poor (new baby) I would have jumped on two-three Nanos and put them on water too! I'm really looking forward to see what Nvidia's new 1070 and 1080 will do, the 1070 is being reported faster then a Titan and under 400 bucks! AMD will have to pull a rabbit out of their butts with Vega in Q4 to top that. However I do see AMDs long term plans to take over the VR space. If the new 1080 cards cant beat (by a lot) AMD's current lineup at DX12 then all that power is almost for show (talking about that async stuff). But hey 2016 is just getting started.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/15 23:54:28
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Asking the question on the EVGA forums is a bit rhetorical though. It's not like you'll get a straight answer around here to the question. It would be like going on Huff Post and asking what induces someone to be a conservative. It's not going to be a thought-provoking, serious set of enlightened posts on the topic. You've got to consider why someone would even ask the question on this forum? That last time EVGA was invested in the idea of AMD was 2006. Back when Nvidia played nice with everyone and still made mobo chipsets. 
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/16 07:59:28
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Asking the question on the EVGA forums is a bit rhetorical though. It's not like you'll get a straight answer around here to the question. It would be like going on Huff Post and asking what induces someone to be a conservative. It's not going to be a thought-provoking, serious set of enlightened posts on the topic. You've got to consider why someone would even ask the question on this forum? That last time EVGA was invested in the idea of AMD was 2006. Back when Nvidia played nice with everyone and still made mobo chipsets.
Or, it would like posting on tomshardware, or other familiar sites, and asking what induces someone to become an Nvidia fanboy? I'll say though that you will tend to get a more "neutral" answer when asking which avenues to take on deciding on choosing between Intel and AMD, on EVGA website.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/16 08:47:43
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I always choose whatever gives me the best performance. Graphics cards can go either way for me but Intel is the obvious choice for a processor. I can only attribute someone's choice of an AMD processor over Intel to some sort of genetic abnormality that requires some sort of medical intervention. This is definitely a cause for concern.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Before every AMD release, I always hear crazy statements such as "Zen will dominate so much that the 6950X will drop in price to $200!" or how AMD is going to destroy Nvidia or Intel. Seriously, every release it's the same old story. I sort of want it to happen too since both Intel and Nvidia need serious competition from AMD rather than the joke they've been putting on the last few years. With that said, what induces someone to become an AMD fanboy? Is it because they can't afford a nice Intel CPU or they hate the "bigger" corporation? I'd like to hear what you folks think. Also, feel free to post crazy statements made by AMD fanboys. I enjoy reading statements made by fanboys of any kind, as they're usually over-the-top.
Regardless of what they may say it all comes down to not being able to afford Nvidia and/or Intel.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Personally i have AMD, i am not a fanboy though i just have my preference, i moved from Intel years back and yes the price helps as it's cheaper but i also saw no difference in performance between the two, i am running an 8-core cpu now and find that it performs better for what i need, Intel is great if you are all about gaming but i find that AMD do well on all fronts and not just gaming, but what i do see here is a bunch of Intel "fanboys" putting down a CPU because of the brand, but in reality, CPU's are all the same, they do the same thing at pretty much the same speed, maybe the max temps are different, unfortunately though a higher price doesn't always mean better quality or performance, some people are blind to this and buy Intel because it costs more therefore must be better.
Oh and before you argue that point let me just say this, Nvidia, Titan release price compared to GTX 1080 release price...... 1080 is cheaper but has much better performance, backing up the fact that a high price doesn't mean a better product all of the time.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/17 09:00:15
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Lots of drugs and brain damage.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Lots of drugs and brain damage.
I'm not aware of any drugs that could impare your judgement that bad but serious head trauma suffered as a child is a definite possibilty.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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Lots of drugs and brain damage.
I literally lol'd
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/17 15:02:01
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Personally i have AMD, i am not a fanboy though i just have my preference, i moved from Intel years back and yes the price helps as it's cheaper but i also saw no difference in performance between the two, i am running an 8-core cpu now and find that it performs better for what i need, Intel is great if you are all about gaming but i find that AMD do well on all fronts and not just gaming, but what i do see here is a bunch of Intel "fanboys" putting down a CPU because of the brand, but in reality, CPU's are all the same, they do the same thing at pretty much the same speed, maybe the max temps are different, unfortunately though a higher price doesn't always mean better quality or performance, some people are blind to this and buy Intel because it costs more therefore must be better.
Oh and before you argue that point let me just say this, Nvidia, Titan release price compared to GTX 1080 release price...... 1080 is cheaper but has much better performance, backing up the fact that a high price doesn't mean a better product all of the time.
Those who do not claim themselves to be a fanboy, but accuse others of bashing a particular group because of a simple question about being a fanboy towards a certain company, is indeed a fanboy. Not one time did we "bash" you, but merely ask a simple question, "What makes a fanboy?" If you scrolled up, sir, you would see that I twisted the same question, in the direction of what makes an NVidia fanboy, an actual NVidia/fanboy? You clearly need to calm down kimosavi. After all, I think you're getting more neutral comments on this site than other sites. Other sites would be knocking you out of your shoes right now.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
2016/05/18 04:43:42
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Same reason any fanboy exists. Immaturity, Ignorance, stupidity, inability to compare products based on their own merrit. AMD CPU's aren't the best, but for me they are competitive when it comes to cost and my 8370 is doing very well in my games etc, and I have no complaints with at at all.
Most Intel fan boys have never even used an AMD CPU and so don't even have the experience to make a reasonable comparison other than jumping on the bandwagon of ignorance, insulting people rigs while being completely ignorant, throwing out terms like "ohhh bottle neck" without even understanding what that even means, they often just see AMD and instantly hate because by hating they can cover up their own limitations and experience.
Both platforms have strengths and weaknesses, as a gamer I can have an A+ experience on an AMD machine that's within my affordability.
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Re: What induces someone to become an AMD fanboy?
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I look at how much work a processor can actually do in terms of 'Instructions per cycle': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_cycleYou would think that an 8-core AMD processor running at the same speed as an Intel 4-core CPU with HT would win this battle but it doesn't.
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