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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/01/31 12:50:00
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Sounds like it's turning out to be the monitor after all.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/01/31 19:35:01
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Sounds like it's turning out to be the monitor after all.
Yeah, I'm pretty confident it is... Still scared of an Asus replacement...
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/01/31 19:55:36
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Strange issue, I've had the same problem but I ended up replacing the card.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/01/31 20:35:39
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Strange issue, I've had the same problem but I ended up replacing the card.
How long ago? Did it fix the issue?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/01 06:04:24
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Have you tried replacing the monitor cable? Looks like bad signal to me. (hmmm looks like you have) Could your GPU Mem OC be too high? Sometimes there are instability errors that aren't evident. What's your mem oc set to?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/01 09:34:59
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Have you tried replacing the monitor cable? Looks like bad signal to me. (hmmm looks like you have)
Could your GPU Mem OC be too high? Sometimes there are instability errors that aren't evident. What's your mem oc set to?
Stock. I don't OC my card. The issue doesn't show up on a recorded video from my computer. I had to record it from my phone. My concern is that the monitor is failing or there is something wrong with the output on the card. Since I checked another port on the card, it should be the monitor?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/01 10:59:29
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Sounds like you might need to test with another gpu. I'm thinking the monitor is the issue though since your other monitor didn't have the problem.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/02 11:13:14
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I didn't realize, but the last video I linked to was set to private. Here is it set to public so you guys can see: https://youtu.be/1jkvJUpeqzM
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/02 15:42:20
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Ok, for sure the monitor. I have been using my PG278Q for a couple days, no issues at all. I hooked back up the PG258Q for more testing and could immediately replicate the issue. This time I used Nvidia's Shadowplay to try and capture it, with the option to capture the desktop. The issue did not capture at all. (leads me back to the monitor being the issue again). When I played the video I actually thought it did capture, because it was doing it during the video. I played the video again and it was not there... It was doing the issue while I was playing the video in full screen on my computer! LOL. Needless to say, ASUS did give me a paid shipping label. I plan to send it back in the next day or two and start the process.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/03 14:59:36
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Could this be interference? The cable was running along (really close to) a power strip cable and close to the power strip itself... Really, it was touching the cable for a good foot length. I know displayport cables are less likely to run into interference issues, but the cables were basically snug against each other. Edit: Nope, wasn't it. I am now down to the final tell all test. I am installing my old 680 right now.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 08:59:11
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I think it might be the card after all... I put in the 680 and have had no issue so far. I found a way to easily reproduce it and that isn't even working. The 680 is slow as heck compared to the 1080Ti, but so far no issue. EDIT: I am going to try re-installing the video card first though. It almost looked as though the 680 went in the PCIe slot further, clicked in better than the 1080Ti was... It might not have been locked in all the way, but that is a long shot. Especially, because I used the card with the same installation since May 2017 (around that time frame).
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 09:31:14
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 09:44:36
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
I tested that the issue was occurring at all refresh rates on the 1080Ti, so yes. The 680 does not go to 240Hz, sadly, but the problem was occurring at 200Hz on the 1080Ti as well. Yes, it is the same resolution as well. I also determined that I could get the issue to happen without a game running, on the desktop.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 09:52:03
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
I tested that the issue was occurring at all refresh rates on the 1080Ti, so yes. The 680 does not go to 240Hz, sadly, but the problem was occurring at 200Hz on the 1080Ti as well. Yes, it is the same resolution as well. I also determined that I could get the issue to happen without a game running, on the desktop.
Okay, so the issue even occurs with the 1080 Ti and the desktop set at 60hz?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:02:21
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Well if so and it's not happening on the other card then it may be the card after all. Maybe something to do with the monitor port on the card. You have 3 to test and have tested the others right?
I'd be thinking a loose solder point on the port but that's easy to test if other ports are fine.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:08:41
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Well if so and it's not happening on the other card then it may be the card after all. Maybe something to do with the monitor port on the card. You have 3 to test and have tested the others right?
I'd be thinking a loose solder point on the port but that's easy to test if other ports are fine.
I tested the other ports on the card. It happened on them as well.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:09:46
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
I tested that the issue was occurring at all refresh rates on the 1080Ti, so yes. The 680 does not go to 240Hz, sadly, but the problem was occurring at 200Hz on the 1080Ti as well. Yes, it is the same resolution as well. I also determined that I could get the issue to happen without a game running, on the desktop.
Okay, so the issue even occurs with the 1080 Ti and the desktop set at 60hz?
I couldn't get it to happen at 60Hz, but 120, 144, 200, and 240 it did happen. It doesn't mean that it would not happen at 60Hz, I just couldn't get it to replicate at 60Hz.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:12:58
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I did notice that it was easier to replicate the issue when the computer was cold. When I had just started it for the day. The longer that I ran the computer, the less it seemed like an issue. I thought maybe the issue was occurring more when the monitor was cold, but now I am wondering if it was the video card that was cold and causing the problem.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:13:49
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
I tested that the issue was occurring at all refresh rates on the 1080Ti, so yes. The 680 does not go to 240Hz, sadly, but the problem was occurring at 200Hz on the 1080Ti as well. Yes, it is the same resolution as well. I also determined that I could get the issue to happen without a game running, on the desktop.
Okay, so the issue even occurs with the 1080 Ti and the desktop set at 60hz?
I couldn't get it to happen at 60Hz, but 120, 144, 200, and 240 it did happen. It doesn't mean that it would not happen at 60Hz, I just couldn't get it to replicate at 60Hz.
Okay, let me ask you this, does the issue occur more often or is easier to replicate the higher you go in frequency and resolution?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 10:27:36
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Are you running the 680 at the same refresh and resolution as the 1080 Ti?
I tested that the issue was occurring at all refresh rates on the 1080Ti, so yes. The 680 does not go to 240Hz, sadly, but the problem was occurring at 200Hz on the 1080Ti as well. Yes, it is the same resolution as well. I also determined that I could get the issue to happen without a game running, on the desktop.
Okay, so the issue even occurs with the 1080 Ti and the desktop set at 60hz?
I couldn't get it to happen at 60Hz, but 120, 144, 200, and 240 it did happen. It doesn't mean that it would not happen at 60Hz, I just couldn't get it to replicate at 60Hz.
Okay, let me ask you this, does the issue occur more often or is easier to replicate the higher you go in frequency and resolution?
Anything above 60Hz seemed really easy to replicate. Only tried 1920x1080. However, did not have this same issue with the PG278Q. It did have the issue where it would flicker when memory speed changed, but you have to force that because Nvidia set memory speed constant in their drivers with that resolution/refresh rate (2560x1440/144Hz). That was a different issue altogether though. EDIT: I kind of want it to happen on the 680, so I will know for sure that it is the monitor. Really, I just don't want to RMA anything that doesn't need to be. My setup has been working really well. The monitor is as perfect as it can get for that particular model, no back light bleed, even color distribution, no stuck or dead pixels. The graphics card has been pretty amazing too, no bad coil whine and runs at a pretty high clock without any OC (which I have never OC'd this card).
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 12:04:42
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I still don't know how this can be the card if it don't happening on both monitors.. after what you said sounds like a bad cap on either the card or monitor.. meaning power issue. Once the cap has enough time to charge up then no issue. Cold cap that is bad is not holding the proper power to send.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 12:14:07
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I still don't know how this can be the card if it don't happening on both monitors.. after what you said sounds like a bad cap on either the card or monitor.. meaning power issue. Once the cap has enough time to charge up then no issue. Cold cap that is bad is not holding the proper power to send.
I know, it sounds like a monitor issue to me as well. However, I still have not had an issue with the 680. I am doing everything I can to replicate the issue as well.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 12:36:58
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I still don't know how this can be the card if it don't happening on both monitors.. after what you said sounds like a bad cap on either the card or monitor.. meaning power issue. Once the cap has enough time to charge up then no issue. Cold cap that is bad is not holding the proper power to send.
I know, it sounds like a monitor issue to me as well. However, I still have not had an issue with the 680. I am doing everything I can to replicate the issue as well.
Could it be cause the 680 can't push thst many frames per second as the 1080ti.. though you say it just happens on the desktop as well correct?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 12:49:56
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I still don't know how this can be the card if it don't happening on both monitors.. after what you said sounds like a bad cap on either the card or monitor.. meaning power issue. Once the cap has enough time to charge up then no issue. Cold cap that is bad is not holding the proper power to send.
I know, it sounds like a monitor issue to me as well. However, I still have not had an issue with the 680. I am doing everything I can to replicate the issue as well.
Could it be cause the 680 can't push thst many frames per second as the 1080ti.. though you say it just happens on the desktop as well correct?
Yeah. I turned off the game running in the background and I was still able to replicate it. I first noticed it when only running intel extreme tuner. It had the issue inside the graph portion of the application.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 12:56:53
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See, I was going to call it a monitor issue for sure, but then I found the thread from Geforce about the 2560x1440 issue with 144Hz and flickering ( https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/939358/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-flickering-issue/1/). I was able to replicate that issue with the method someone mentions in that thread, by changing the memory clock. When you change the memory clock it flickers. I then tried to record that and it would not record either. That issue was confirmed to be a graphics card driver issue. That tells me that even a graphics card issue that causes monitor flickering (like in either this case or the one in the thread) could end up not being captured with video capturing software. I just re-installed the card and can't get it to flicker. I hope that it was just not seated all the way. It did seem not all the way in when I removed it to put in the 680. I am not sure if a bad install (not seated all the way) would cause this issue though. EDIT: The weird part to me is that it did not have this issue all the time, or only on certain screens or colors. The problem had to be forced to happen. It happened a lot when I would check the score in Battlefront 2. It happened when I would have a word document open over the battlefront 2 windowed game running and an open browser behind it. It would happen at the end of the round screen on Battlefront 2. It happened only in the portion of Intel Extreme Tuning utility that had the graph. It wasn't like I was just sitting on the desktop and noticed it happening randomly, like most monitor issues would happen.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 13:45:29
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Hmm. No issues with your other monitor & 1080 ti, and now no issues using the 680. Starting to sound like a compatibility issues between your monitor and the ftw3. Do both vbioses on the ftw3 produce the same issue?
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 14:01:25
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Hmm. No issues with your other monitor & 1080 ti, and now no issues using the 680. Starting to sound like a compatibility issues between your monitor and the ftw3. Do both vbioses on the ftw3 produce the same issue?
Weird, right? I also tried it with my Surface Book connected to it, just for the heck of it, and did not have any issues either. Ran it through displayport as well.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 14:10:23
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Crazy stuff.. looking like either the ftw3 or monitor needs to go.. Hehe Looking like a good reason to upgrade to a bigger monitor. 27"-34 1440 monitor.. if say 4 k but sounds like you like high frame rate. Edit: you already have a Asus 27" g-sync 144 monitor.. I had that one and the picture started to shake at anything over 120hz a little over a year later. Had a microcenter warranty for it and they gave me $800 back and used it for the newer 165hz monitor. Of course I bought the extended warranty again lol ;) Do they have firmware updates for the moitor?? I will say if I had been up on my monitors I would of spent a few bucks and get the damn 34" wide screen! Dumb of me at the time.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 14:20:00
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Hmm. No issues with your other monitor & 1080 ti, and now no issues using the 680. Starting to sound like a compatibility issues between your monitor and the ftw3. Do both vbioses on the ftw3 produce the same issue?
Weird, right? I also tried it with my Surface Book connected to it, just for the heck of it, and did not have any issues either. Ran it through displayport as well.
Yes, it is very strange. Might want to try the second vbios on the ftw3 to see if it makes any difference or not.
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Re: Weird artifacting 1080TI?
2018/02/04 14:27:27
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Strange Asus has a new driver package for the older 25" monitor..
Version -
2018/01/238.9 KBytes
PG258Q WHQL Driver
For the 27" there drivers are from 2016 :/
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