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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/03 00:25:31 (permalink)
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im holding out on a titan mainly to see if one with custom tdp limit would be released, or if it'll be changed with bios modding. and im still saying NO to EK for the CSQ change, ugliest design ever.

 
We've already changed it with bios. I found the hex strings the day I got the card.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/03 08:43:22 (permalink)
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I dunno...I kinda like the CSQ design. I think the new design is too plain. I mean I know you don't see it all that often, but at CSQ was unique. 

 
I guess I am a "plain jane" type of guy.  Just give me a solid color and I'm happy... like the new one  The wait is killing me.  I haven't run anything on air in a long time.  Although the Titans are quite quiet, I like seeing my temps in the 40's rather than the high 70's.  That AND I should be able to get a higher stable OC or at least use less voltage.





 
 
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/03 09:13:15 (permalink)
Hey Johnny I don't know if you've posted your max boost and OC but what is it?
 
And update us when you get the waterblocks and if it helps at all with your max OCs.
 
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/03 11:13:00 (permalink)
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Hey Johnny I don't know if you've posted your max boost and OC but what is it?

And update us when you get the waterblocks and if it helps at all with your max OCs.

< - still waiting on his Titan's to get here:(

 
To be honest, I haven't even messed with the OC yet. When I do, I'll post them up!  I will also compare them to the performance on water:)





 
 
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/03 11:59:56 (permalink)
oh hm... i did like the old EK design a lot, cuz it was so clean looking, i had them on my 470.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/04 07:36:10 (permalink)
Well, I just got the notice that my blocks have been shipped out.  They are on a 3 day delivery so I expect them here Wed/Thursday and remarkably enough I have those two days off so I can run some before/after benches on air/water.





 
 
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/04 07:43:27 (permalink)
I remember when putting a WB on a video card turned it form a multi-slot to a single


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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/04 09:43:42 (permalink)
yeah too bad we can't get brackets like that anymore due to space limitation of all the ports.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/04 22:38:02 (permalink)
Got my EK block today. Looks really nice, and temps under load never exceed 38 deg celsius
 

 

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/04 23:20:43 (permalink)
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Got my EK block today. Looks really nice, and temps under load never exceed 38 deg celsius
 

Nice load temps... Bench with gpu fan at minimum % and report back please! Were you throttling on air?
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 06:32:54 (permalink)
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Got my EK block today. Looks really nice, and temps under load never exceed 38 deg celsius
 

Nice load temps... Bench with gpu fan at minimum % and report back please! Were you throttling on air?


His card is water cooled. Not sure if any fan setting would matter if there's no fan plugged in at all.

UPS has been trying to deliver my Titan since Friday but I've had work every day so I've been missing it but I'm finally able to stay home today to receive it and my EK block is supposed to be here tomorrow so I'll post both air and water results by the end of the week.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 11:31:53 (permalink)
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His card is water cooled. Not sure if any fan setting would matter if there's no fan plugged in at all. 
 

 
Posts on overclock.net and nvidia forums suggest some/all cards are throttling even when within temp and power targets, maybe because of high fan  %.
 
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/533339/geforce-drivers/titan-cannot-break-95-tdp-massive-throttling/
 
 
post edited by vhsownsbeta - 2013/03/05 11:36:12
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 12:26:35 (permalink)
Interesting temperatures you've got there. However, I think it would be worth knowing if you should find the water temperature in order to have a better comparison.

In a German forum was reported today:
24 ° C water temperature
44 ° C GPU LoadTemp @ 1202mhz
EK Waterblock
no throttling, usable for 24/7
 
the 32 ° C by Jacob sounds unbelievably good. There are also 100mhz difference and we do not know its water temperature.
 
 
Long story, short sense. When I can finally hold the part in my hands?
 
post edited by Grinsemann - 2013/03/05 12:35:32
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 14:16:22 (permalink)
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In a German forum was reported today:
24 ° C water temperature
44 ° C GPU LoadTemp @ 1202mhz
EK Waterblock
no throttling, usable for 24/7


Promising... Link?

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 14:25:10 (permalink)
EVGA one looks the best to me so fart appearance wise- has that murda look to it :)
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 18:43:18 (permalink)
What annoys the crap out of me is how the Hydro copper versions are so overpriced ..... I know about manufacturing
and a water block is cheaper to make than the stock heat sinks especially the vapor chamber  heat sinks.
Feel like we are being screwed just because we are enthusiasts
Of course copper is expensive ... even so, price should be no more than the stock heat sink.
 

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 18:54:30 (permalink)
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What annoys the crap out of me is how the Hydro copper versions are so overpriced ..... I know about manufacturing
and a water block is cheaper to make than the stock heat sinks especially the vapor chamber  heat sinks.
Feel like we are being screwed just because we are enthusiasts
Of course copper is expensive ... even so, price should be no more than the stock heat sink.


Also if you compare the interior of the HydroCopper blocks to a block from ANY other company, it sucks. Unless Swiftech changed the inside since the GTX680 HydroCopper. I honestly would never buy a HydroCopper card. Also like you said, you pay to much, think maybe you are paying for the labor of assembly.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 19:20:27 (permalink)
Not to defend EVGA I find swiftech's use of extra metal to cover all the card is the extra cost.  Also the LED light, no other block makers do it besides XSPC.
 
Another thing to note even if the interio of the HC is crap looking they perform just as good as other blocks from reviews and other members post about their temps.  And yes I'll take the questionable and lazy interior over bad quality like EK's Nickel plates flaking and early corrision.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 19:38:20 (permalink)
i ordered two of the WB's for my coming titans and they are Nickel, i don't know much about WB's with nickel/Copper ect.. yet and never experienced flaking or any problems. i just know that the Nickel ones cost a little bit more ,maybe because i end up upgrading them so fast and buying new cards. but EK responded to the Flacking issue here
          " http://www.ekwb.com/news/83/19/
the Titan water Blocks EK makes are definitely not the best looking out there but they do the job, on my previous 2x 680's using EK WB's my temps on idel was 25c-28c and max load 46c except Crysis 3 they reached 55c I wonder why? maybe all that texture and extreme graphics , and i had 1x 360RAD and 1x 240RAD. enlighten me please as i am still a Rookie to water cooling and understanding the difference of brands, Quality and their performance.
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 20:00:23 (permalink)
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Not to defend EVGA I find swiftech's use of extra metal to cover all the card is the extra cost.  Also the LED light, no other block makers do it besides XSPC.

Another thing to note even if the interio of the HC is crap looking they perform just as good as other blocks from reviews and other members post about their temps.  And yes I'll take the questionable and lazy interior over bad quality like EK's Nickel plates flaking and early corrision.

  That had to be from over two years ago now? Issue is no longer an issue. I would pay more money for an EK block, even with the ugly design. I actually threw two GTX680 HydroCopper blocks away, that's how unsatisfied I was with them. Picked up the current blocks I have now which give me better temps. Only 2-3 degrees, but still better.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 21:00:27 (permalink)
Why is everyone saying the EK is ugly? It's beautiful....

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 21:29:28 (permalink)
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Rei86

Not to defend EVGA I find swiftech's use of extra metal to cover all the card is the extra cost.  Also the LED light, no other block makers do it besides XSPC.

Another thing to note even if the interio of the HC is crap looking they perform just as good as other blocks from reviews and other members post about their temps.  And yes I'll take the questionable and lazy interior over bad quality like EK's Nickel plates flaking and early corrision.

That had to be from over two years ago now? Issue is no longer an issue. I would pay more money for an EK block, even with the ugly design. I actually threw two GTX680 HydroCopper blocks away, that's how unsatisfied I was with them. Picked up the current blocks I have now which give me better temps. Only 2-3 degrees, but still better.

 
The CSQ design was around when I was reading about the issues with EK
 
http://www.overclock.net/...-flaking-problem/0_100
http://forums.overclocker...howthread.php?t=959198
 
Just do a google search and you'll find it
Even had to made a official statement after getting pushed by people
http://www.ekwb.com/news/83/19/
and at least they addressed the issue but still flaky in their QC.
 
Me, like I said I'm going with a AquaComputer block or a Heatkiller. 

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 21:55:59 (permalink)
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Rei86

Not to defend EVGA I find swiftech's use of extra metal to cover all the card is the extra cost.  Also the LED light, no other block makers do it besides XSPC.

Another thing to note even if the interio of the HC is crap looking they perform just as good as other blocks from reviews and other members post about their temps.  And yes I'll take the questionable and lazy interior over bad quality like EK's Nickel plates flaking and early corrision.

That had to be from over two years ago now? Issue is no longer an issue. I would pay more money for an EK block, even with the ugly design. I actually threw two GTX680 HydroCopper blocks away, that's how unsatisfied I was with them. Picked up the current blocks I have now which give me better temps. Only 2-3 degrees, but still better.


The CSQ design was around when I was reading about the issues with EK

http://www.overclock.net/...-flaking-problem/0_100
http://forums.overclocker...howthread.php?t=959198

Just do a google search and you'll find it
Even had to made a official statement after getting pushed by people
http://www.ekwb.com/news/83/19/
and at least they addressed the issue but still flaky in their QC.

Me, like I said I'm going with a AquaComputer block or a Heatkiller. 

The nickel plating issue was long ago with EK now using a different process so
saying not to go with EK because of the nickle flaking issue is really a moot point
with their current range.
 
I would much prefer EVGA partner with EK to produce their Water Blocks than Swiff,
I have always seen Swiff as the lower end of the scale when it comes to WC'ing,
you just need to look at their offerings over the years.
Apart from the plating issue EK had, their WC'ing parts have always been top notch.
At least that is my opinion.
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 21:59:59 (permalink)
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Rei86

loveha

Rei86

Not to defend EVGA I find swiftech's use of extra metal to cover all the card is the extra cost.  Also the LED light, no other block makers do it besides XSPC.

Another thing to note even if the interio of the HC is crap looking they perform just as good as other blocks from reviews and other members post about their temps.  And yes I'll take the questionable and lazy interior over bad quality like EK's Nickel plates flaking and early corrision.

That had to be from over two years ago now? Issue is no longer an issue. I would pay more money for an EK block, even with the ugly design. I actually threw two GTX680 HydroCopper blocks away, that's how unsatisfied I was with them. Picked up the current blocks I have now which give me better temps. Only 2-3 degrees, but still better.


The CSQ design was around when I was reading about the issues with EK

http://www.overclock.net/...-flaking-problem/0_100
http://forums.overclocker...howthread.php?t=959198

Just do a google search and you'll find it
Even had to made a official statement after getting pushed by people
http://www.ekwb.com/news/83/19/
and at least they addressed the issue but still flaky in their QC.

Me, like I said I'm going with a AquaComputer block or a Heatkiller. 

The nickel plating issue was long ago with EK now using a different process so
saying not to go with EK because of the nickle flaking issue is really a moot point
with their current range.

I would much prefer EVGA partner with EK to produce their Water Blocks than Swiff,
I have always seen Swiff as the lower end of the scale when it comes to WC'ing,
you just need to look at their offerings over the years.
Apart from the plating issue EK had, their WC'ing parts have always been top notch.
At least that is my opinion.

 
Year and a half ago, they also had the early corrosion issue also.
 
I don't know any of the older Swiftech products but the block internal pictures of the Swiftech blocks are pretty low par vs everyone else it seems. 

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 22:32:46 (permalink)
Well I just got three EK blocks :/

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/05 23:08:10 (permalink)
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Well I just got three EK blocks :/

 
You don't have to worry about it, they've fixed the issue.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/06 02:33:20 (permalink)
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Grinsemann
In a German forum was reported today:
24 ° C water temperature
44 ° C GPU LoadTemp @ 1202mhz
EK Waterblock
no throttling, usable for 24/7


Promising... Link?

 
http://www.hardwareluxx.d...8-85.html#post20286987
 
The information on water temperature and waterblock came over postings.

22 ° C in idle were at @ stock
 
at 1228 Unigine Heaven will be crashed
1.2 volts and 1202 in boost with throttling
or
1.1875 and 1202 in boost WITHOUT throttling
 
from 1228 to 1.1875 or 1.175 it crashed
 
Yet neither TDP and target temperature was reached. But in contrast to the others were 101-104% TDP reached
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/06 13:41:12 (permalink)
Well, 2/3 just got here.  These two I ordered from EK headquarters in Slovenia.  ( I paid less for shipping than I would have in US and they shipped these Monday afternoon!  Unreal!).  Third one should be here Friday...that one I ordered from Performance PCs.
 






 
 
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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/07 04:31:39 (permalink)
hawk269

If I am not mistaken, isn't the Titan the first GPU to have memory chips on the backside.  How do these get cooled?  On my 690 block, the block cooled the memory as well as other parts and the GPU itself, so with the Titan having memory on the backside as well, wouldn't it cause an issue with OC the memory due to it not being cooled, or half of them not being cooled?


@hawk269 My gtx670 backplate came with a set of contact pads. Was a bit fiddly fitting the block and backplate at the same time but certainly worth it.

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Re:Waterblocks for the Titan 2013/03/07 10:14:52 (permalink)
Looks like Arctic has gotten in on the Titan business: (They were released already, but Arctic confirmed they were compatible with Titan).  I know people may like these but I for one think they are ugly as hell.  Yuk.  Give me a custom loop any day over a closed loop system. 
http://www.hardwaresecret...GeForce-GTX-Titan/7184
 

 
 
Picture taken from product page:  http://www.arctic.ac/en/p...9/accelero-hybrid.html
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