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I’m asking, specifically, to those that bought a RTX series card and have used it to see real ray tracing in Battlefield V. From what I’ve read the effects are cool, but punishing to overall frame rate. I’m using a G-sync monitor that can do 100 hz at 3440x1440. I know with ray tracing enabled at that resolution I won’t get nearly to 100 frames anymore with the performance hit caused by ray tracing. Since BFV is mostly a multiplayer game, it seems to be it would be a more enjoyable experience to play at 100 FPS at 3440x1440, instead of 1920x1080 at 100 FPS and ray tracing on. But I’m asking for anyone who has seen ray tracing in all its glory, was it worth the FPS hit?
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/16 16:07:38
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For me... i am not buying for ray tracing. I am getting a 2080ti for VR flight simming, after seeing ray tracing in action... its such a gimmick imo.
Maybe in 1-3 years it will come on stronger but if this first iteration of it is already killing GPUS it will be several years before we see it widely implemented.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/16 16:56:26
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I didn't buy it for tracings of ray.
My old gaming machine was destroyed last year in the Texas flooding.
I wanted to build from scratch. I expected it would be the best card for at least 6 months and I would be set for years before games will choke it out of ultimate settings.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/16 17:47:05
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☄ Helpfulby rmmil978 2018/11/16 18:21:57
For ray tracing I believe you'll be chucking along at like 1080 at 60fps or lower. Not my idea of a good time.. didnt like the idea of 60hz for 4k either but dealt with it for awhile till I seen 100+ frame rate on an old monitor and then bought a ultra wide gsync 120hz monitor. Heh
So it be nice for single player games I bet. Or for a demo but real multiplayer gaming no.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/16 18:23:15
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, thanks!
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/16 18:33:58
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However, this means my biggest disappointment in the newest generation of Nvidia cards is justified. Compared to last generation, there is a $400-600 price increase in this generation...for ray tracing technology? A technology that still burdens the cards so much that they are crippled in overall performance when the feature is on. I feel like Nvidia should have left it out of this generation and waited until the technology was more developed before it was implemented, so that it could be turned on in the cards that support it without killing overall performance. Gamers who spend over $1k on cards are looking to max out FPS, usually, not for cool shadow and light effects that you won't notice mid-game anyway. But, thanks for the responses, I am going to sit out this generation and wait until it can be implemented without destroying performance.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 11:46:58
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Yes it was worth it for me. From 1080 FE to 2080 Ti FE the jump was significant. I did not buy it for Ray Tracing. I bought it because it is the fastest single GPU out right now. I play @ 1440p with everything cranked and love it.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 12:05:44
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Can the 2080 Ti run Battlefield V’s Ray Tracing (even on minimum) in 2160p at 60 FPS, on all Ultra settings if just antialiasing is turned down to minimum? The tests I see suggest it can’t but they are using the Ultra preset which sets AA at a high level. In 4K AA can be turned down since it’s really taxing and not needed so much. I’m curious if anyone has tested this. My 2080 Ti is being delivered Monday so I’m wondering if it will work for this.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 12:25:42
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BF 5 does not appeal to me in anyway. The only Battlefield game I still have installed is BF4. There are plenty of videos online proving that Ray Tracing in BF5 has about a 25% performance hit. people need to understand that the Ray Tracking in BF5 is just reflection ray tracking. Not a true built from the ground up game around ray tracing.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 17:37:21
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Can the 2080 Ti run Battlefield V’s Ray Tracing (even on minimum) in 2160p at 60 FPS, on all Ultra settings if just antialiasing is turned down to minimum? The tests I see suggest it can’t but they are using the Ultra preset which sets AA at a high level. In 4K AA can be turned down since it’s really taxing and not needed so much. I’m curious if anyone has tested this. My 2080 Ti is being delivered Monday so I’m wondering if it will work for this.
I doubt it, raytracing is rendered on the seperate RTX core which Bottlenecks the fps, the AA is not the Bottleneck... just a lower Resolution can make higher fps with raytracing… i think every Setting low would have same fps like only raytracing low and rest Ultra, but I did not see Tests About that, but I think it is so.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 22:22:09
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The problem is BF5 is using just the plain DX12 DXR. If they would program to use RTX with NVIDIA cards it would be allot faster. DXR is vanilla Ray Tracing for any card, you can turn it on for a 1080TI but it is real slide show.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/17 23:51:35
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For multiplayer it not really the reason to turn it on in the first place. You normally care more about FPS then pretty in them.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 04:31:29
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For multiplayer it not really the reason to turn it on in the first place. You normally care more about FPS then pretty in them.
I care about both. 
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 06:58:42
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I upgraded from 980, so the general performance jump is huge.
I think RTX is a huge step forward, but like initial implementations of certain kinds of AA, it's a frame rate killer. The cat's out of the bag though, and that's awesome. Can't wait to see RTX and DLSS together.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 07:42:04
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Every time I read posts like this I once again feel like I'm the only one that super excited for ray tracing to be implemented into less demanding games.
I will be buying a 2080Ti for the raw performance alone though, not ray tracing. Currently using a GTX 980 @ 3440x1440 120hz
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 09:52:21
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 09:53:28
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Can the 2080 Ti run Battlefield V’s Ray Tracing (even on minimum) in 2160p at 60 FPS, on all Ultra settings if just antialiasing is turned down to minimum? The tests I see suggest it can’t but they are using the Ultra preset which sets AA at a high level. In 4K AA can be turned down since it’s really taxing and not needed so much. I’m curious if anyone has tested this. My 2080 Ti is being delivered Monday so I’m wondering if it will work for this.
There is a topic from evga on here of what settings you can use to get 2160p at 60fps on ultra with the 2080ti. Don't listen to the nay sayers.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 10:29:30
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
Please feel free to show your performance and settings. Only one person claims they can do raytracing at the specs you mention and still maintain 60fps, so I would like to see this claim fully backed. If thousands of other people can’t get the same performance you are, it makes me very curious what they have done wrong.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 10:44:05
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
Please feel free to show your performance and settings. Only one person claims they can do raytracing at the specs you mention and still maintain 60fps, so I would like to see this claim fully backed.
If thousands of other people can’t get the same performance you are, it makes me very curious what they have done wrong.
Bingo.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 10:45:13
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I game strictly in VR with an Oculus Rift.
I went from EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 to EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra.
Gains in performance for me - not much if one is measuring by FPS. VR is quite demanding on any system currently out there. Most of my gaming is done in combat flight sims, which are additionally very high demanding on the GPU especially in VR.
However one area I gained in was the ability to increase my in game graphics settings, which resulted in a better looking game. Adding more detail along with increasing my SS (Pixel Density) of the VR image without a big hit on performance.
So with the 2080 Ti, I was able to achieve higher graphics levels than I could with the 1080 Ti and maintain good enough performance for it to be a pleasurable gaming experience. I could not have run the graphics settings I am now with the 1080 Ti. And Lone Echo in VR is gorgeous with the additional graphics with this card.
Was it worth the dollars I spent for what I got? Well that is hard to say and very subjective, I am certainly pleased with the additional detail and higher quality image, but it was a lot of cash. I have no regrets in getting it. Also that new VirtualLink Port works awesome for my Rift, have all of it plugged into it and working fantastic.
Once I get my new build done here hopefully before Christmas and am satisfied, I will put my 1080 Ti FTW3 up on Ebay and recoup some of my cost. Looks like they are holding value pretty decently at this time. Only reason I am holding on to it now is I will put back in my current machine whilst I am doing the new build, so will have no PC downtime.
It will be interesting to see how this 2080 Ti does in a new i9 9900k rig.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 10:52:58
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Every time I read posts like this I once again feel like I'm the only one that super excited for ray tracing to be implemented into less demanding games.
I will be buying a 2080Ti for the raw performance alone though, not ray tracing. Currently using a GTX 980 @ 3440x1440 120hz
I'm on a single 780 for gaming while the other 780 folds for EVGA 24/7 on a Dell 27" 1440p 144hz. I surely need a GPU upgrade but don't know if I want to wait for a better implementation of RTX in 2020+. I have other goals in the next couple of years to achieve than worry when's the next GPU coming out, that's why I'm looking to snag a 2080Ti and go from there. The raw power is there no doubt but the implementation of RTX I'm worrying about. I hope soon enough we'll see better FPS with Eye candy where it should be once the tweaks and bugs get ironed out. the_Scarlet_one
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
Please feel free to show your performance and settings. Only one person claims they can do raytracing at the specs you mention and still maintain 60fps, so I would like to see this claim fully backed.
If thousands of other people can’t get the same performance you are, it makes me very curious what they have done wrong.
He surely came out of left field with just his underpants. Not even a link to backup his claims while discrediting respected reviews. Hah! 
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 15:49:28
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Well I didn't buy the card just to have RTX in Battlefield V, or any game, but yes for me it was worth it, especially because I recouped half the cost selling my 1080Ti. On a couple of my most-played games (Elite Dangerous VR and Project Cars 2 VR), there's a noticeable improvement in performance. Other games not really since my 1080Ti was a beast. Obviously that will change over time as games become more demanding. I'm happy with the purchase but getting half the cost back for my 1080Ti definitely made it easier to swallow.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 16:38:16
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I could care less about RT.. I got a 4k 34in ultrawide that needed a powerful gpu to push it. I can max out games and have a good 100fps with gsync so I am happy.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/18 20:56:06
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I dont know if I should purchase these cards. With ray tracing on the resolution has to be dropped and you get like 50-60 fps on 1080p resolution
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 01:43:00
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I bought 2 2080 tis for do 4k @100 fps, I still need to try battlefield V and see if their is an sli fix for rtx.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 05:37:35
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The performance will be increased in future Patches, the current status of DXR is experimental.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 06:28:07
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
Please feel free to show your performance and settings. Only one person claims they can do raytracing at the specs you mention and still maintain 60fps, so I would like to see this claim fully backed.
If thousands of other people can’t get the same performance you are, it makes me very curious what they have done wrong.
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Every time I read posts like this I once again feel like I'm the only one that super excited for ray tracing to be implemented into less demanding games.
I will be buying a 2080Ti for the raw performance alone though, not ray tracing. Currently using a GTX 980 @ 3440x1440 120hz
I'm on a single 780 for gaming while the other 780 folds for EVGA 24/7 on a Dell 27" 1440p 144hz. I surely need a GPU upgrade but don't know if I want to wait for a better implementation of RTX in 2020+. I have other goals in the next couple of years to achieve than worry when's the next GPU coming out, that's why I'm looking to snag a 2080Ti and go from there. The raw power is there no doubt but the implementation of RTX I'm worrying about. I hope soon enough we'll see better FPS with Eye candy where it should be once the tweaks and bugs get ironed out.
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
Please feel free to show your performance and settings. Only one person claims they can do raytracing at the specs you mention and still maintain 60fps, so I would like to see this claim fully backed.
If thousands of other people can’t get the same performance you are, it makes me very curious what they have done wrong.
He surely came out of left field with just his underpants. Not even a link to backup his claims while discrediting respected reviews. Hah!
I didn't think I needed to show the link, its on the first page here in this forum lol. And some people requesting the settings have posted in this topic, unless my statement was a little misleading. https://forums.evga.com/B...W3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 06:28:31
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I bought 2 2080 tis for do 4k @100 fps, I still need to try battlefield V and see if their is an sli fix for rtx.
Nope. And, there are rumors that SLI RTX is impossible and will never exist. We shall see. But don't hold your breath.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 06:32:02
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I didn't think I needed to show the link, its on the first page here in this forum lol.
https://forums.evga.com/B...W3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
That's not 4K. Sajin
70 scaling is basically 1440p.
And that is with DXR settings set to "low", not "ultra". Your statement was misleading in many ways.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 06:42:19
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I didn't think I needed to show the link, its on the first page here in this forum lol.
https://forums.evga.com/B...W3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
That's not 4K.
Sajin
70 scaling is basically 1440p.
And that is with DXR settings set to "low", not "ultra".
Your statement was misleading in many ways.
DXR low look 99% the same as ultra with current bug in BFV, 70% scaling is "basically" 1440p but its really not, majority of the game is still 4k, he also breaks down the reason behind the scaling if you read some more on that page. My statment still stands. Plus I play with 85% scaling and sit with 60 still. Still defeats the masses of people saying can't hold 60 at 1080p, when its forsure capable at 1440p and 80% scaling with 4k. Let alone 50s with no scaling. With future tweaks and bugs sorted out you will see what it can do :).
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