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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 08:48:13
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Givingtheheat,
As stated by jacob, 4k and DXR is unplayable. If you have to scale anything, then you aren’t getting true 4k settings like you stated.
Medium/High/Ultra DXR is bugged and NVidia/DICE already stated that. That is why they suggest not even using it. Hence why Ultra looks the same as low. Because it isn’t working properly.
Thankfully we have enough proof showing the truth. Thousands of reviews and other members aren’t wrong. NVidia isn’t telling people to turn down settings because they are all wrong. If one person is going against everyone else, how can that one person say everyone else is wrong, especially when they cannot show their own settings or provide proof to back their claims. The video you tried to use as proof already showed that everything is scaled down. If that wasn’t necessary, please provide proof that they are wrong.
Sure, future patches will provide some performance game, but don’t hold your breath.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 08:59:01
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Givingtheheat,
As stated by jacob, 4k and DXR is unplayable. If you have to scale anything, then you aren’t getting true 4k settings like you stated.
Medium/High/Ultra DXR is bugged and NVidia/DICE already stated that. That is why they suggest not even using it. Hence why Ultra looks the same as low. Because it isn’t working properly.
Thankfully we have enough proof showing the truth. Thousands of reviews and other members aren’t wrong. NVidia isn’t telling people to turn down settings because they are all wrong. If one person is going against everyone else, how can that one person say everyone else is wrong, especially when they cannot show their own settings or provide proof to back their claims. The video you tried to use as proof already showed that everything is scaled down. If that wasn’t necessary, please provide proof that they are wrong.
Sure, future patches will provide some performance game, but don’t hold your breath.
He never stated 4k and dxr is unplayable, he said maxed out its not capable at 60fps. But Ultra settings with some scaling and DXR turned down it is. It is still 4k, I also never said "true" 4k. The difference you would get from the scaling visual wise would be debatable. Yeah they are bugged thats why I mentioned using low for the settings since thats the only one that you have to use to get some stability. Nvidia never stated not to use, they actually posted the settings you should use while running it. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1080010/geforce-rtx-20-series/battlefield-v-dxr-faq/ That video of what Jacob is using is enough proof to show that all of those other people are wrong and that yes thousands of reviewers are wrong. I use the same settings except my scaling is at 80. If you have a 2080ti I say you try the settings provided and see for yourself. Majority of those reviewers are also saying 1080p and DXR is not capable of 60fps, just goes to show how misinformed a lot of those people are.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 09:21:33
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 13:03:04
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 14:11:16
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
You should completely edit the above post, as by your own admission it is completely incorrect. *Please feel free to run your hardware and settings as you see fit and enjoy your experience (even share it) but please do not expect to post completely false and misleading info on a website full of users who -know- just how incorrect your posted information really is.... There is no debate about the current state of RTX playability (fps) in Battlefield V at higher resolutions. There isn't any  This is no surprise, and RT will remain a "gimmick" until such time as game engines are -built- from the ground up to utilize it. That day still is years away....
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/19 15:48:42
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:32:23
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Ray Tracing on the 2080ti 4k Ultra with a steady 60fps is very nice on Battlefield V and looks amazing. Not sure where people keep getting 1080p 60fps or lower, that is simply false and not anywhere near the truth if you know what settings to adjust until the bugs get worked out.
I think people who have the RTX cards are the only ones who can speak of this as the stuff you see online is really misleading.
You should completely edit the above post, as by your own admission it is completely incorrect.
*Please feel free to run your hardware and settings as you see fit and enjoy your experience (even share it) but please do not expect to post completely false and misleading info on a website full of users who -know- just how incorrect your posted information really is....
There is no debate about the current state of RTX playability (fps) in Battlefield V at higher resolutions. There isn't any
This is no surprise, and RT will remain a "gimmick" until such time as game engines are -built- from the ground up to utilize it. That day still is years away....
My post is correct and my statements stay true, I've already posted enough information to back that, people trying pick at it are failing. Thank you for the suggestion though but I do not want to mislead people and feed the incorrect info others seem to have. The proof is there. And if you do not own a 2080ti please move along :) (Not directed at anyone, too much online misleading information and not enough personal usage, a lot of people relying off google.) Visit here for recommended settings by Nvidia for BFV : https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1080010/geforce-rtx-20-series/battlefield-v-dxr-faq/ Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx (Either way it shows RTX in BFV current state at higher resolutions is surely working. EVGA_JacobF
60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:45:48
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Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
EVGA_JacobF
60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
It's not 4K. Case closed. If I set everything to minimum settings so that it looked like a muddy mess, set scaling at the absolute minimum so that it was rendering at 640x480 resolution (or whatever), and set the final resolution to 4K, and gave you a video, I guarantee (or at least I would sure hope) that you would complain that it wasn't 4K. Just as that isn't 4K, this isn't 4K. This example is rendered at less than 4K, and then simply upscaled to 4K at the end. An upscaled nintendo gameboy is not 4k. The resolution that the GPU renders at is the resolution which matters when talking about GPU performance. It wasn't rendered at 4K, therefore you cannot talk about its 4K performance.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:51:05
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givingtheheat
Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
EVGA_JacobF
60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
It's not 4K. Case closed.
If I set everything to minimum settings so that it looked like a muddy mess, set scaling at the absolute minimum so that it was rendering at 640x480 resolution (or whatever), and set the final resolution to 4K, and gave you a video, I guarantee that you would complain that it wasn't 4K.
It is 4k (Not true 4k if you wanna get technical) . This is not up for debate. Still rendered in 4k. Do you have a 2080ti?
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:53:23
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Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
EVGA_JacobF
60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
It's not 4K. Case closed.
If I set everything to minimum settings so that it looked like a muddy mess, set scaling at the absolute minimum so that it was rendering at 640x480 resolution (or whatever), and set the final resolution to 4K, and gave you a video, I guarantee that you would complain that it wasn't 4K.
It is 4k. This is not up for debate. Still rendered in 4k. Do you have a 2080ti?
It is NOT RENDERED in 4K. That is patently false. The resolution that the GPU renders at is the resolution which matters when talking about GPU performance. It wasn't rendered at 4K, therefore you cannot talk about its 4K performance.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:55:06
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Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx
EVGA_JacobF
60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
It's not 4K. Case closed.
If I set everything to minimum settings so that it looked like a muddy mess, set scaling at the absolute minimum so that it was rendering at 640x480 resolution (or whatever), and set the final resolution to 4K, and gave you a video, I guarantee that you would complain that it wasn't 4K.
It is 4k. This is not up for debate. Still rendered in 4k. Do you have a 2080ti?
It is NOT RENDERED in 4K. That is patently false.
The resolution that the GPU renders at is the resolution which matters when talking about GPU performance. It wasn't rendered at 4K, therefore you cannot talk about its 4K performance.
Yes it is, now I ask again do you have a 2080ti? I can talk about its 4k performance since I have played with no scaling lol. The UI elements are rendered in 4k, does that make you feel any better?
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:58:29
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 05:59:47
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
UI elements are still rendered in 4k, I needed to be more specific I guess. If you don't own one and dont plan on it then you shouldn't be on this topic.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 06:22:15
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 06:31:47
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
UI elements are still rendered in 4k, I needed to be more specific I guess. If you don't own one and dont plan on it then you shouldn't be on this topic.
Wow, the number of ammo remaining in the magazine is rendered in 4K. lol I am sure that is very demanding work, and worth considering when arguing about hardware performance. lol I'm not sure if you realize this, but your audience is anyone who cares to read the content, not specific hardware owners.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 06:38:08
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
UI elements are still rendered in 4k, I needed to be more specific I guess. If you don't own one and dont plan on it then you shouldn't be on this topic.
Wow, the number of ammo remaining in the magazine is rendered in 4K. lol I am sure that is very demanding work, and worth considering when arguing about hardware performance. lol
I'm not sure if you realize this, but your audience is anyone who cares to read the content, not specific hardware owners.
Well sure, anyone can read it. But if they don't own the hardware then you can't really join the debate :)
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 06:43:33
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
UI elements are still rendered in 4k, I needed to be more specific I guess. If you don't own one and dont plan on it then you shouldn't be on this topic.
Wow, the number of ammo remaining in the magazine is rendered in 4K. lol I am sure that is very demanding work, and worth considering when arguing about hardware performance. lol
I'm not sure if you realize this, but your audience is anyone who cares to read the content, not specific hardware owners.
Well sure, anyone can read it. But if they don't own the hardware then you can't really join the debate :)
When you make untrue statements, people.can't help but join the debate. I am not debating RTX cards. I don't need to own a RTX card to argue that upscaled 4K is not rendered at 4K.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 06:47:06
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I do not own a RTX. I have no interest in owning a RTX. Good for you if you do and even better if you are happy with your purchase. Maybe in 5 years I will buy an upgrade, but at the moment, I have no desire or reason to upgrade.
Now, back to the topic at hand: upscaled to 4K is not rendered at 4K. Feel free to educate yourself. Case closed.
UI elements are still rendered in 4k, I needed to be more specific I guess. If you don't own one and dont plan on it then you shouldn't be on this topic.
Wow, the number of ammo remaining in the magazine is rendered in 4K. lol I am sure that is very demanding work, and worth considering when arguing about hardware performance. lol
I'm not sure if you realize this, but your audience is anyone who cares to read the content, not specific hardware owners.
Well sure, anyone can read it. But if they don't own the hardware then you can't really join the debate :)
When you make untrue statements, people.can't help but join the debate. I am not debating RTX cards. I don't need to own a RTX card to argue that upscaled 4K is not rendered at 4K.
Didn't make untrue statements. The ui is still rendered in 4k :) Get a RTX then we can talk :D. Until then I have no further responses for you.
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Re: Was it worth it?
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Re: Was it worth it?
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 08:38:34
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I’m asking, specifically, to those that bought a RTX series card and have used it to see real ray tracing in Battlefield V. From what I’ve read the effects are cool, but punishing to overall frame rate. [...]
As you too, I bought last year a 1080 Ti Founders Edition, - which is still a superb video card. And to be honest, because of my experience with dual-cooler designs like the 980 Ti from EVGA, I wanted a blowout, exactly like the Founders. Today, with the new 2080 Ti, especially with Nvidia's ray-tracing agenda and the gpu free pricing, it feels "strange", compared to last summer and the complete package (of last year), that they delivered. Edit: Prophylactic. I'm happy for everybody here who owns a 2080 Ti. Especially from EVGA.
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Re: Was it worth it?
2018/11/20 12:03:42
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Game running at 4k with Scaling (Its still 4k) https://forums.evga.com/BFV-DXR-HDR-Gaming-on-2080-Ti-FTW3-ULTRA-m2882812.aspx (Either way it shows RTX in BFV current state at higher resolutions is surely working.
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60FPS is not possible today in BFV at 4K with MAX settings on a single RTX 2080 Ti, so that is why you either need to set a lower resolution (like 1440P) or use scaling. For this I used 70% scaling. I prefer to use scaling instead of changing resolution as #1 you can keep the resolution to native, #2 UI elements are still rendered at 4K and #3 you will get better quality on YouTube as 4K allows for a higher bitrate.
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Re: Was it worth it?
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Pretty sure that was directed at you...lol
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