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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/17 05:32:38
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I applied the pads today and used MX-4 for the GPU. Apparently the VRAM pads were not too thin and had good contact but I replaced the anyway since I removed the front plate too.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/17 21:06:51
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is ok to play games and overclock till the pads come? (1440p / 4k) did bios update
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/18 04:27:48
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So doing research paying off but not exactly providing results. EVGA with VRM problems. Gigabyte has no adequate ventilation on backplate. ASUS experiencing problems with fans on ROG Strix. Jesus Christ, WHAT THE HECK, already?????
I'm going to check what MSI is up to. This is ridiculous.
Can you tell me more about ASUS and GIGABYTE problems ? MSI is in the same basket, it also add "exploded cards"
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/18 04:30:40
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is ok to play games and overclock till the pads come? (1440p / 4k)
did bios update
With the bios, the pads are more than optionnal ;)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/18 13:36:31
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"Worked great for a day, then started having problems. Screen artifacts, flickering, crashes. Seems to be the same problem that many others are having. I considered an RMA, but opted for a refund through Amazon after seeing the many reports of people getting refurb replacements, at least one with minor damage. Not acceptable for such a high end card." This is a recent comment on Amazon.com I'm very confused. This guy should have bought a card from the new batch and I don't understand how this guy is still experiencing problems. Is there a production defects on these 1080 FTW cards? Is Vbios update and thermal pad application is just to reduce the effects of the problems of the defected products? I read a lot of comments in Turkey and a lot of users believe that this card has a production defects, and if EVGA hasn't changed the card's design, then the card still has all of the previous problems. Here is another comment I read on Youtube. "They should change the whole heatsink with a new one that adds not only thermal pad but a solid one that really makes full contact with the heatsink, not only the side of the fins. All they are doing is sending owners (per request) some thermal pads that manage to drive away some heat from the affected area on both sides of the GPU, it even makes the back-plate work as a passive heat-sink." What do you think guys? Can any EVGA member explain it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/18 21:30:05
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Slimmer
is ok to play games and overclock till the pads come? (1440p / 4k)
did bios update
With the bios, the pads are more than optionnal ;)
i take that as a .... no i'm golden after the pads are fastened on, no more heat leakage, with thicker pads, thanks evga
post edited by Slimmer - 2016/12/18 21:39:13
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 07:46:56
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I requested for the Thermal pads, but from what I can see, they haven't even shipped yet. I am from India, so not sure if it will be shipped at all! Can anyone please confirm? EDIT: Just checked again. Request shows as its been shipped. Thanks!
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 08:34:59
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Mine is waiting shipment.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 09:59:48
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Anyone else still crashing after the bios update? The bios update seems to have reduced the frequency of crashes, but they still occur.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 14:44:58
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I just did an RMA with EVGA as my card was < 30 days old so EVGA replaced my GTX 1070 FTW with a new 1070 FTW with the thermal mod pre-applied from the factory , But the thermal mod that is pre-applied is only half the width of what is shown in various you tube videos and it is only covering the VRM and not the chokes like what other manufacturers do . is EVGA again trying to cut corners by providing less thermal pads ? .
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 15:43:43
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Mine I received 2 weeks ago was the same way... Was told it was correct
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 17:58:45
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Guys, I did the thermal pad mod the other day along with the BIOS updates. The card runds quite a bit cooler under load.
HOWEVER, I just noticed that the LED backlighting does not work. Upon closer inspection, it looks like one of the 4 wires on the LED connector detached.
What should I do? It doesn't look like I can repair this myself.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/19 23:45:23
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I just did an RMA with EVGA as my card was < 30 days old so EVGA replaced my GTX 1070 FTW with a new 1070 FTW with the thermal mod pre-applied from the factory , But the thermal mod that is pre-applied is only half the width of what is shown in various you tube videos and it is only covering the VRM and not the chokes like what other manufacturers do . is EVGA again trying to cut corners by providing less thermal pads ? .
They choose the alternate method of installment pads http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2594960 , I buy and place the pads with same way (green arrow no pads on chokes).
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 03:52:27
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Anyone else still crashing after the bios update? The bios update seems to have reduced the frequency of crashes, but they still occur.
To me, it seems rather odd that you are getting crashes before or after the BIOS update. If I were you I would look for the troubleshooting elsewhere. It is possible that, for example, your PSU is not adequate for this particular card, but only further examination of your build might reveal what is causing the crashes you are experiencing. One reasonable test you may do is running Memtest by booting up from a CD or flash drive. Anyway, good luck! On the same topic: In a previous posting I reported a BIOS update failure for my GTX 1080 SC card. Briefly, I ran the update.exe app and the screen went blank for a second but no BIOS was installed. I was lucky though because upon restart the PC went back to normal. Yesterday I had an offer from EVGA to exchange e-mails with their Latin America technical support, and I was pleased with it. I had my query pending for more than a week, so writing directly to the rep was a great help. It so happened that that the failure to update the card VBIOS was due to two main reasons: one, the download page referred to the part number 08G-P4-6183-K, but my card was 08G-P4-6183-KR; and two, after unzipping the downloaded file I got an 6183 directory with a couple of files, none of them with a ".rom" extension, which is the one containing the new VBIOS. The rep kindly sent to me the the correct BIOS, which did the trick, changing the BIOS version to 86.04.3B.00.82. The installation was a breeze, just a few seconds later the card was updated. After that I ran the FurMark stress test and found out that I was having a top temperature of 65-66 Celsius, meaning 10-9 degrees lower than before the new VBIOS was applied. In addition, fans would go off at around 50 degress, again 10 degrees lower than before. I agreed to wait until the thermal pads arrive and only then to evaluate if any further mod will be necessary. Overall I was lucky not to have the incorrect BIOS installed in my card, but since it wouldn't be my fault I would send for a new card anyway. On that weird double cold boot, previously described issue I was having with Windows, it hasn't happened since I cleaned the PCI-E slot, and I surely hope to continue that way. A number of people over the Internet have been complaining about Micron memory modules. I have those installed in my card, and they do not seem to be the cause of any trouble.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 04:58:14
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In a previous posting I reported a BIOS update failure for my GTX 1080 SC card. Briefly, I ran the update.exe app and the screen went blank for a second but no BIOS was installed. I was lucky though because upon restart the PC went back to normal.
Yesterday I had an offer from EVGA to exchange e-mails with their Latin America technical support, and I was pleased with it. I had my query pending for more than a week, so writing directly to the rep was a great help.
It so happened that that the failure to update the card VBIOS was due to two main reasons: one, the download page referred to the part number 08G-P4-6183-K, but my card was 08G-P4-6183-KR; and two, after unzipping the downloaded file I got an 6183 directory with a couple of files, none of them with a ".rom" extension, which is the one containing the new VBIOS.
The rep kindly sent to me the the correct BIOS, which did the trick, changing the BIOS version to 86.04.3B.00.82.
The installation was a breeze, just a few seconds later the card was updated. After that I ran the FurMark stress test and found out that I was having a top temperature of 65-66 Celsius, meaning 10-9 degrees lower than before the new VBIOS was applied. In addition, fans would go off at around 50 degress, again 10 degrees lower than before.
I agreed to wait until the thermal pads arrive and only then to evaluate if any further mod will be necessary.
Overall I was lucky not to have the incorrect BIOS installed in my card, but since it wouldn't be my fault I would send for a new card anyway.
On that weird double cold boot, previously described issue I was having with Windows, it hasn't happened since I cleaned the PCI-E slot, and I surely hope to continue that way.
A number of people over the Internet have been complaining about Micron memory modules. I have those installed in my card, and they do not seem to be the cause of any trouble.
What the hell? I only had two files as well, neither of which was a .rom file. All I had was an application and sys file. When I did my update, it literally took four seconds, which seemed rather fast too. My BIOS version actually shows that version number too now. edit: Just to double check, I just downloaded four different BIOS' and none of them come with a .rom specific file. Either they are all invalid, or that's how they are supposed to be.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 06:59:42
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What the hell? I only had two files as well, neither of which was a .rom file. All I had was an application and sys file. When I did my update, it literally took four seconds, which seemed rather fast too. My BIOS version actually shows that version number too now.
edit: Just to double check, I just downloaded four different BIOS' and none of them come with a .rom specific file. Either they are all invalid, or that's how they are supposed to be.
The rom is built into the .exe. you open the .exe and it should do everything you need done for you.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 08:38:36
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What the hell? I only had two files as well, neither of which was a .rom file. All I had was an application and sys file. When I did my update, it literally took four seconds, which seemed rather fast too. My BIOS version actually shows that version number too now.
edit: Just to double check, I just downloaded four different BIOS' and none of them come with a .rom specific file. Either they are all invalid, or that's how they are supposed to be.
The rom is built into the .exe. you open the .exe and it should do everything you need done for you.
I already ran the update, and didn't think anything was amiss until reading this thread. I know that older BIOS updates (specifically NVFlash) always had a .rom file with it, but that doesn't necessarily mean updates wouldn't eventually happen that would be packaged differently. The only thing that I found odd in this case was that my update literally took a total of 5s (including the black screen), which seems extremely short for an actual BIOS update. I even already commented that after downloading different samples, either they were all wrong, or that's just how they are supposed to be.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 18:39:13
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madhankumar388
I just did an RMA with EVGA as my card was < 30 days old so EVGA replaced my GTX 1070 FTW with a new 1070 FTW with the thermal mod pre-applied from the factory , But the thermal mod that is pre-applied is only half the width of what is shown in various you tube videos and it is only covering the VRM and not the chokes like what other manufacturers do . is EVGA again trying to cut corners by providing less thermal pads ? .
They choose the alternate method of installment pads ,
I buy and place the pads with same way (green arrow no pads on chokes).
Are you saying this by yourself as I Don't see any EVGA rep supporting your comment . Trying to understand how you said that less pads are better.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/20 22:44:39
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madhankumar388
I just did an RMA with EVGA as my card was < 30 days old so EVGA replaced my GTX 1070 FTW with a new 1070 FTW with the thermal mod pre-applied from the factory , But the thermal mod that is pre-applied is only half the width of what is shown in various you tube videos and it is only covering the VRM and not the chokes like what other manufacturers do . is EVGA again trying to cut corners by providing less thermal pads ? .
They choose the alternate method of installment pads ,
I buy and place the pads with same way (green arrow no pads on chokes).
Are you saying this by yourself as I Don't see any EVGA rep supporting your comment . Trying to understand how you said that less pads are better.
http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Thermal-Mod-Pad-sizes-and-locations-for-DIYers-m2586299.aspxscroll the page to find the alternate method I'm not write anywhere less or more pads are better, but that they choose the alternate solution.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/21 04:15:21
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What the hell? I only had two files as well, neither of which was a .rom file. All I had was an application and sys file. When I did my update, it literally took four seconds, which seemed rather fast too. My BIOS version actually shows that version number too now.
edit: Just to double check, I just downloaded four different BIOS' and none of them come with a .rom specific file. Either they are all invalid, or that's how they are supposed to be.
I take it that you wrote down the previous BIOS version release. In this case the update was successful, end of story. In my former update the BIOS version did not change, and accordingly the temperature variation and fans rotation were exactly as before. Why there are no ".rom" file with the upgrade zip file is beyond my comprehension. It is possible that the executable file will contain the necessary changes, but usually Nvidia BIOS are clearly saved with the ".rom" extension. Now, if the ".rom" file was included in the update.exe file I have no explanation for the lack of update in the first attempt, other than programmers including a routine to verify the current BIOS version AND the part number of the card. When I first ran the update.exe file there was a message saying that the screen would go blank, but the installer did not update anything. I had taken note of the former VBIOS release so I was sure that it did not change. When the right update was applied I was asked permission to update the BIOS, and only then the update was performed. When it was finished I was informed that the update was successful, and this is the way it should be.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/21 08:54:18
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So doing research paying off but not exactly providing results. EVGA with VRM problems. Gigabyte has no adequate ventilation on backplate. ASUS experiencing problems with fans on ROG Strix. Jesus Christ, WHAT THE HECK, already?????
I'm going to check what MSI is up to. This is ridiculous.
Can you tell me more about ASUS and GIGABYTE problems ?
MSI is in the same basket, it also add "exploded cards"
Gigabyte was experiencing some issues with performance drops on their 1070's. I also read on Guru3D the back plate is poorly ventilated, clearly trapping excess heat between the main board and itself. No one mentioned this to be an issue but over time this will inevitably reduce the cards lifespan. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1070_g1_gaming_review,10.html ASUS was going strong with the ROG Strix until recently. I read their cards are now experiencing fan malfunctions. I dug deeper because this was the best offering thus far, and discovered that some owner's fans aren't turning on at all despite the card being run at load. Apparently this was not a serious concern because not all three fans spool up under load, but at a particular temperature to minimize noise. That was the part of the cooling design. Further research revealed that other Strix owners fans spun to max RPM and couldn't be controlled until restart. This is the problem ASUS is dealing with now. https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?88228-Strix-1070-O8G-fan-issues Any links to MSI issues being discussed? Seems the 10(lucky 7)0's aren't so lucky with Pascal.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/21 13:11:10
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Request Shipped 11/09/2016 (Please allow 1-2 weeks for delivery). 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/22 01:15:04
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I am still to understand if the temperature rise is due to the design of the cards or to problems with the chipset. Does anyone here have any idea about temperature tolerances of the 1070/1080 cards? And the top temperatures that can be sustained in perfect operational conditions? EVGA has posted in the BIOS download page that the thermal pads are OPTIONAL. I read in another thread that a card was fully modified and the temperature went up to 63 degrees with Furmark. My card had the VBIOS updated only and went to 65 degrees with the same test. Which lead me to argue if the thermal pad installation is really optional, as EVGA claims. Or if the results may vary. according to the card. If you install a water cooler for the CPU chances are that only the motherboard temperature may contribute to the temperature increase of the chip. But graphics cards are not that isolated. Computer cases air flow will probably be a determining factor for the card's temperature dissipation. And if so, evaluation of different builds will have to rely on the card's internal tolerances so as to check if it is working without any issues. At any rate, if us users should make a proper judgement if the card is working correctly we need to know the thermal tolerances that cannot be breached and the risk of turning the card unusable. Ultimately, the knowledge of the range of the accepted temperature variation will do just fine.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/22 07:13:43
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Request Shipped 11/02/2016 (Please allow 1-2 weeks for delivery).
Today is 7 weeks and counting, no delivery yet (hope today!!)
(Please allow 1-2 weeks for delivery).
should have read
(Please allow 4-8 weeks for delivery) more realistic!
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/22 13:06:41
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Malant, you should have received your pads by now. I'll be sending you an email momentarily to arrange sending you a new set.
If anyone else has gone a month or more with their pads saying shipped, but you haven't received them, please contact Support so we can verify your shipping info, and we'll get a new set out to you.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/22 21:39:30
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Hi, the 1070 ftw won't let me turn my fan rpm 15%
I thought acx 3 supported 0db/0% fan rpm?
it's just really annoying to hear the fans if I'm trying to watch a movie, going to sleep
I wish I could afford a 970 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/22 21:47:51
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Hi, the 1070 ftw won't let me turn my fan rpm 15%
I thought acx 3 supported 0db/0% fan rpm?
it's just really annoying to hear the fans if I'm trying to watch a movie, going to sleep
Make sure your vbios is set to master and not slave.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/24 03:18:02
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Pads sent 11-28-16 destination Spain. Still waiting.... Snail mail. Happy christmas and a very happy 2017 to you all.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update
2016/12/25 15:42:46
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"Worked great for a day, then started having problems. Screen artifacts, flickering, crashes. Seems to be the same problem that many others are having. I considered an RMA, but opted for a refund through Amazon after seeing the many reports of people getting refurb replacements, at least one with minor damage. Not acceptable for such a high end card."
This is a recent comment on Amazon.com
I'm very confused. This guy should have bought a card from the new batch and I don't understand how this guy is still experiencing problems. Is there a production defects on these 1080 FTW cards? Is Vbios update and thermal pad application is just to reduce the effects of the problems of the defected products?
I read a lot of comments in Turkey and a lot of users believe that this card has a production defects, and if EVGA hasn't changed the card's design, then the card still has all of the previous problems.
Here is another comment I read on Youtube. "They should change the whole heatsink with a new one that adds not only thermal pad but a solid one that really makes full contact with the heatsink, not only the side of the fins. All they are doing is sending owners (per request) some thermal pads that manage to drive away some heat from the affected area on both sides of the GPU, it even makes the back-plate work as a passive heat-sink."
What do you think guys? Can any EVGA member explain it?
Don't believe in everything you see on youtube. And Turkey? Can you read Turkish??? What's your point....... Where did you see these many reports??? Please provide some links and confirmation. Post a link to Amazon with comments. EVGA does not send refurbished cards to customers. Post some documentation with pictures that shows the cards are refurbished and some with minor damage. If you can't provide these things your post is just made up to keep the discussion alive. I don't believe a word you wrote. It's rubbish!
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