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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 14:47:32 (permalink)
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I just received my replacement card today. It came in a sealed retail box and inside you can even see the security tape to prevent tampering. So does this mean I received a brand new card instead of a refurb?


No. The refurbs get new packaging.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 15:08:24 (permalink)
will the new 1070 and 1080s come with the thermal pads installed.or just the bios update?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 15:13:23 (permalink)
I ordered my 1070 Black yesterday from Newegg, and it arrived today.  Putting the serial number into the thermal pad request, the EVGA WEB site said I will need both the BIOS and thermalpad update.  Kinda bummed about it as I thought I won't have to deal with it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 15:57:10 (permalink)
Hey guys, 
 
I think this is my first time posting. Just wanted to say i managed to install my thermal mod, So far so good GTX 1070SC. I notice around 4c drop in temps idling (compared before and after with the new bios) and under load (3dmark dx12 test) highest i saw was 47c with GPU at 100% I used 3dmark to make sure i didn't mess anything up. 

Process was fairly simple but a little scary, I had to take a deep breath a few times to stop from shaking. 
 
Thanks for the great reads over the last couple weeks, this thread is very informative. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 17:52:26 (permalink)
47 with the fan curve of the new bios or a custom one ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 19:56:42 (permalink)
The new bios and the curve supplied by precision 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 20:35:43 (permalink)
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acebb6
I just received my replacement card today. It came in a sealed retail box and inside you can even see the security tape to prevent tampering. So does this mean I received a brand new card instead of a refurb?


No. The refurbs get new packaging.


Refurbs typically comes in plain brown boxes with the letters EVGA and the serial number. New cards come in new packaging.

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 21:23:30 (permalink)
"then EVGA can replace it"
can they replace the other parts it might take with it?

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 21:44:27 (permalink)
Got my thermal mod kit in the mail today for my 1070 SC. Took me an hour to install it (worked very slow and cautiously) with the new thermal paste. Other than the led connector being stubborn enough to warrant using needle nose pliers to unplug it, everything else went smooth and easy.  Now with the new bios installed, I can't get the gaming temperatures to go over 60 even if I try. Custom fan curve at 50% at 58c tho! It is a bit louder than before the bios update, but still nowhere near as loud as my 970 SSC was. For anyone who is tentative to install this thermal mod by themselves, if you just read the instructions provided by EVGA..(like 6 times over until you understand them very well), work very slowly and methodically, it is not an issue at all. Make sure you have everything you need before you start, such as Isopropyl Alcohol to clean old thermal paste from GPU and to clean VRAM chips. And small Phillips and Flat Screwdriver. Good Luck!
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/22 22:21:45 (permalink)
Ok it says that on cards with a dual bios, only flash the bios that the card is set to, how do I know which bios the card is set to?

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 00:48:43 (permalink)
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Ok it says that on cards with a dual bios, only flash the bios that the card is set to, how do I know which bios the card is set to?




Do you have a manual? Read before posting. Or simply do a search on google for "how do I know which bios the card is set to".
Or look at your card, find a little swicth thingy where it says master/slave. Out of the box it should be in master-mode.
If you want to go flash both BIOS, then remember to shut down computer before changing switch position, and remember to use the correct file for the current selected BIOS/switch-position.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 02:43:33 (permalink)
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Did anyone noticed that there are 2 different thermal pad application guide? 
When you click on the link provided in the 2nd message from your cell, the guide is quite different than what we see in evga's statement. The one on the phone is more extensive with 5 more steps and it has 3 more thermal pads called VRM pads. 
 
I think it asks you to replace VRM pads which are already in place as far as I understand from steps.
 
EVGA,
what are you trying to do?? 
[....]

I think you're actually misreading VRAM as VRM, as in replacing the thermal pads over the memory, which is something we've been including in our Thermal Mod kits that we ship to customers.  Only the first shipment, generally, went out before we began including the VRAM pads with all Thermal Mod kits.

We actually have several versions of the Thermal Mod guide, largely depending on when we completed the guide and which cards the guide is created for.  If you've been following this process from the beginning, then you'll know that we originally only offered thermal pads and thermal paste to customers that requested the kits.  Soon after, we began adding the VRAM pads to the kits, which required a new guide.  There is also a guide for GTX 1060s, which is different than the one you posted, due to a slightly different type of installation.  
 
However, I'll follow up with our web team during this week to update the site to include current versions of the guides for each set of cards, but it will be a short week for us here in Brea, due to the upcoming holiday.




Hi,
Thanks for response. I also noticed thermal pad size thread, which is a very good call. Everybody was asking information in the pages and it had started being frustration. One thing is still missing: thermal conductivity coefficient of your tested products (in gamersnexus). People need to now what sort of performance they will get when they order their pads from a 3rd party brand. 
 
Yes, at first glance I misread VRM and VRAM (sorry it was night and I was about to go to bed when I noticed this guide in my cell.)
 
I also couldn't check forum everyday. I noticed this thread when it was on 23rd page. Then I looked at it (around page 59?) after noticing new guide with VRAM stuff because I was fed up with "awaiting shipment" statement after 2 weeks and ordered my pads individually.  
 
One question: Do you have FMEA (Failure Mode and Effects Analysis) list?  Can we trust EVGA's design department with ACX 4.0 once more? 
 
Have a nice holiday,
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 02:48:26 (permalink)

EVGA Thermal Mod Pad sizes and locations for DIYers

size, thikness and location of pads...
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 04:00:27 (permalink)
My pads are still 'awaiting shipment'. Are they waiting for me to just return my cards and demand a refund, or what ?
 


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 06:19:38 (permalink)
+ 2 weeks ... the thermal pads shipment deadline is way over. And STILL nothing. C´mon...
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 08:05:35 (permalink)
How do I know when the date of the video card manufacturing. And the memory installed on the 1070 FTW.
And thermo expelled to Russia?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 09:31:54 (permalink)
Request Shipped 11/09/2016 (Please allow 1-2 weeks for delivery).
 
Today 11/23/2016 I waited 2 weeks and i don't have any information about "thermal pads".

I think you can please share the tracking number because we don't know if the pads its coming or not.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 11:52:37 (permalink)
requested mine 10/28 and still nothing , noticed that there are now more and different pads, and more how-to's .... great.
so , i have to pay shipping to get a proper 1080ftw replacement? (with pads and bios)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 13:46:03 (permalink)
kommivan
How do I know when the date of the video card manufacturing. And the memory installed on the 1070 FTW.
And thermo expelled to Russia?




For the memory (manufacturer?) you can use TechPowerUp GPU-Z
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 16:24:50 (permalink)
VERY interesting video from Gamers Nexus about the hype....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxQaSjQclo
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 16:37:05 (permalink)
Is there a way to tell if a card recently purchased through Amazon has the fix applied?

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Re: Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate 2016/11/23 16:45:50 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I have the EVGA GTX 1070 FTW DT and I am wondering if I am supposed to apply the primary and secondary VBIOS update? Or do I just apply the primary update? I am very confused as why there is a primary and a secondary vbios update.
 
Would it be safe if I don't apply any update at all because the card is working fine?
 
My Part Number (PN) is 86.04.1E.00.70
 
Thank you
 
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Re: Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate 2016/11/23 17:29:00 (permalink)
If you have not changed anything on the card, then likely primary is the only one you will need.
 


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Re: Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate 2016/11/23 17:33:36 (permalink)
So apparently I'm not the only one still "awaiting shipment".....

Would be nice to get that sorted out please, EVGA.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 18:15:50 (permalink)
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I have a question, I updated the VBIOS and installed the pads on my SC Black Edition. Everything seams fine, but it looks like If I don't open EVGA Precesion software, the fan cure is still like it was before the update 0% when Idle. Is this normal ?
 
I prefer this fan curve as it makes the card dead silent. With the thermal pads installed is a fan curve with 0% fan speed when temps are lower than 50C is good enough ?.




This is normal. Precision X overrides the built in fan curve from the new bios. Don't use Precision X unless you OC. So yes, it's fine.
post edited by Xfade81 - 2016/11/23 21:41:09
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 18:50:22 (permalink)
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I have a question, I updated the VBIOS and installed the pads on my SC Black Edition. Everything seams fine, but it looks like If I don't open EVGA Precesion software, the fan cure is still like it was before the update 0% when Idle. Is this normal ?
 
I prefer this fan curve as it makes the card dead silent. With the thermal pads installed is a fan curve with 0% fan speed when temps are lower than 50C is good enough ?.




This is normal. Precision X overrides the built in fan curve from the new bios. Don't use Precision X unless you OC.


Using MSI afterburner without messing with the fan curve I have noticed that the regular 1080 SC does idle at 0% fanspeed but once gaming and it hits over 50c it starts to jump up a good amount to around 30-40percent fan speed at the 60c ish range on the new bios. Before the bios update it only used to go to like 15% fan speed at about 60c and I had used percison x once back then but not since the bios update.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 21:40:14 (permalink)
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_inkubux_
I have a question, I updated the VBIOS and installed the pads on my SC Black Edition. Everything seams fine, but it looks like If I don't open EVGA Precesion software, the fan cure is still like it was before the update 0% when Idle. Is this normal ?
 
I prefer this fan curve as it makes the card dead silent. With the thermal pads installed is a fan curve with 0% fan speed when temps are lower than 50C is good enough ?.




This is normal. Precision X overrides the built in fan curve from the new bios. Don't use Precision X unless you OC.


Using MSI afterburner without messing with the fan curve I have noticed that the regular 1080 SC does idle at 0% fanspeed but once gaming and it hits over 50c it starts to jump up a good amount to around 30-40percent fan speed at the 60c ish range on the new bios. Before the bios update it only used to go to like 15% fan speed at about 60c and I had used percison x once back then but not since the bios update.


 
Yes the new bios makes your fan go faster. Intended.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 22:36:12 (permalink)
As I said we could really do with a BIOS between the original and the new one. Aiming at 1800rpm max.
 
For my standard ACX3.0 the fans went up from 1400-1500rpm to 2100rpm. Something in the middle would be nice.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/23 22:57:17 (permalink)
So after the Bios update and the heat pads installation, my old overclock profile now crashes where as the before the bios update and the installation, it was 100% stable.
 
I took my time with the installation and there was no dust or etc and everything was cleaned with 99% isopropyl alcohol and there was no issues during the install...
 
Before, I was running the GTX 1070 FTW on the Uniengine Heaven benchmark at the + 100 mhz core/+ 300 mhz memory overclock with a 110% power target completely fine (hitting about 2 ghz stable in the auto overclock and 8.6 ghz memory, and now it crashes on the same settings...
 
What could be wrong? I'm running at default settings right now and it overclocks to about 2 ghz and then ramps down to 1.9 ghz core/4006 mhz memory during the benchmark and maxes out at about 65C... The temperature before crashing is still in the mid 60s so I don't think it's a poorly seated cooler/thermal compound.
 
Any ideas on what could be causing this if anyone is experiencing anything similar?
 
Edit: The default profile with auto overclocking results in a 1896 MHz core clock with a 4004 MHz memory clock.
 
After an hour or so of testing, at max power target of 112%, I was able to push the GPU to a maximum of +75 core/+600 memory that's stable. The maximum temperature was between 67 C to 69C for all benchmarks (including default profile). The shown clock in Precision XOC (through the OSD) was 1962 MHz Core and 4596 MHz Memory. This is still about 100 mhz short of what the GPU did beforehand... Everything else is stock. didn't mess with the fan settings.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/24 00:58:18 (permalink)
With 3rd party thermal pads installed for VRAM, VRM and thermal grizzly conductonaut application to GPU, on %100 fan speed, GPU temp is highest 58C and VRM area (measurement from backplate of course) temps are highest 66C (both Furmark).  I see testing with custom fan profile not a good comparison between users, it will not help to understand efficiency of thermal pad mod application (different pads etc..) .  
 
 
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