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2016/09/09 07:01:23 (permalink)
I read a lot of reviews before purchasing this card...and was expecting only about a 20% or so performance boost over a GTX 1080.  I bought it...well...because I wanted it...not because I needed it! 
 
Using Folding @ Home as a platform benchmark, I'm seeing about a 60% performance boost over my 1080 FTW:
 
Titan X Pascal:
- Sustained Boost Clock: 1900 MHz (still has room to go)
- Folding PPD: 1.3 million
- Cooling: Stock cooler
 
EVGA 1080 FTW:
- Sustained Boost Clock: 2100 MHz (still has room to go)
- Folding PPD: 800 K
- Cooling: ACX 3.0
 
Using the Heaven Benchmark, I get about a 50% FPS performance increase in surround of 3 x 1920x1080 (5760 x 1080).
 
The 1080 if a great card, but the Titan X Pascal is fantastic. 
 
My 1080 is a good overclocker, and the Titan X is a great overclocker.  The card hits 1980 MHz as long as the temperature is under 60 C...and drops to 1900 MHz at it's final temperature of 79 C to 85 C.
 
Come on EVGA...give us the 1080 FTW and Titan X Pascal Hybrid Kits!!!!
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 07:06:14 (permalink)
    Stop talking about how great they are before I end up buying one!!
     
    I went to the 1080 because I could basically came out of my Titan X clean on the transition (sold for the cost of the new card).  Then TX Pascal hit and I decided I need to wait for Volta because this card does everything I need and then some.
     
    But I could have a TX Pascal....

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 07:19:03 (permalink)
    I'm very impressed with the Titan X Pascal...is performing much better than I expected it to.
     
    The only down side is the stock cooler is noisy and not good enough.
     
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 08:39:23 (permalink)
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    I'm very impressed with the Titan X Pascal...is performing much better than I expected it to.
     
    The only down side is the stock cooler is noisy and not good enough.
     
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    Thinking about it, but I'm still holding out for a 1080ti because maybe Nvidia will actually let evga have a crack at throwing the ACX 3 on there. That's my reservation. I got the 1080 SC, and man, I never knew video cards could be so quiet. I had the Titan X (Maxwell) before and that thing was LOUD. Not keen on going back until a new line of triple-A games that bring the 1080 to its knees. 

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 09:20:41 (permalink)
    How long did you fold with the Titan to get your - Folding PPD: 1.3 million
     
    Was this a "snapshot" after a hour or two from the control panel (lower left corner) or sustained after several days ?
     
    I do not see a link to your Folding

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 09:30:34 (permalink)
    When I first saw the announcement I focused on 11 tflops vs 9 tflops and was like 20-24% is not worth it and was thinking about keep the 1080 classifieds i had at the time. but then the benchmarks release and it was much faster than the 1080 and almost double the 980 ti :)

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 09:36:56 (permalink)
    These are averages across a couple of days worth of production - work units completed...not the PPD estimates out of the Folding control app.  You probably already know that the PPD estimate is only good for the current work unit, against a given core, against a given project (different project numbers on the same core yield different PPD results...and core 0x18 are the worst.)
     
    (i.e. looking through the log file and recording completed WUs...I wrote a program to automate this for me).
     
    I increased the Titan X P overclock Wed evening...and this yielded a linear PPD increase with the overclock.
     
    When I get home tonight, I can post some day-to-day results if interested (work units completed before or after the midnight crossover can skew the number up or down).
     
    Folding Stats: 
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=693640
     
    I'm currently folding with a Titan X P, 1080 FTW, 980 Ti Hybrid:
     
    Averages over 2 days:
    Titan X P: 1.2 million PPD
    1080 FTW: 800 K PPD
    980 Ti Hybrid: 675 K PPD
     
    Recently replaced an EVGA 980 SC with the Titan X P.  Trading out the 980 SC for Titan X P gave an increase of about 900 K PPD...and the 980 SC averaged around 400 K PPD.
     
    (It could be I just got a lucky batch of work units the past few days...shrug...I'm still happy!)
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 09:48:24 (permalink)
    No, after several days I like those numbers
     
    Not knowing your Folding background, I did not know where your PPD came from.  I'm a day 20, new to Folding member
     
    It is important to me to get "good" data feedback ---> looking at adding to my Folding build also, new Titan(s) that is.
     
    My signature builds are currently Folding.  I am thinking about upgrading the EVGA 980 SC myself
     
    Have you measured the Watts drawn between 980 SC and Titan upgrade ?
     
    Thanks for the information
    post edited by Cool GTX - 2016/09/09 09:51:12

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 09:55:48 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Have you measured the Watts drawn between 980 SC and Titan upgrade ?



    Yeah - it was an increase - but I don't remember how much.
     
    Here's a data point I did record:
    - Main rig is an i7-5820K (overclock of 4.3 GHz)
    - For this data point, Titan XP was drawing 110% TDP, 980 Ti was 105% TDP, and processor was at 80 W
    - This was pulling 775 W from the wall
    - Power supply is gold rated 850 W EVGA G2...so figure 90% efficiency...
    - This puts system power draw at about 697 W for this data point
     
    Both the Titan XP and 980 Ti Hybrid are 250 W TDP cards.
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 11:04:30 (permalink)
    Gotta love that titan xp performance. 

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 12:12:04 (permalink)
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    Gotta love that titan xp performance. 



     
    Sitting with the purchase button waiting .....
     
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 12:13:43 (permalink)
    Do it man...hit the button...do it man...they are awesome you know...do it man...hit the button...
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 12:16:45 (permalink)
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    Gotta love that titan xp performance. 



     
     
     
    Sitting with the purchase button waiting .....
     
    Wish I could find a Discount "promo code" to use @ shop.nvidia.com   ---> or where Nvidia sells the open box returns for a discount.




     
    its about 70% faster than old titan x so it would be a good size upgrade. people say the ti may get skipped this series.

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 14:55:14 (permalink)
    Update to numbers...crunched 2 days worth of production...average production:
     
    Titan X Pascal (1900 MHz GPU): 1,186,151 points (just shy of 1.2 million...not quite the 1.3 million of my original post)
    1080 FTW (2100 MHz GPU): 799,598 points
     
    So, the Titan X Pascal (overclocked) shows 48% more production than a 1080 FTW (overclocked).
     
    Not too shabby!
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 15:51:20 (permalink)
    Nice
     
    Thanks for the update

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 15:54:01 (permalink)
    May 2017 Volta ... seems so close yet so far.......
     

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/09 17:08:05 (permalink)
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    Do it man...hit the button...do it man...they are awesome you know...do it man...hit the button...


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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 15:56:16 (permalink)
    I've tried several times to get a 1080 FTW from EVGA to no avail. I almost pulled the trigger on the Titan X Pascal a few times as well. Just feels like it's a waste, when I want either 4k60 for more than a year, or 1440p for the normal upgrade time. If I get it for 1440p, I might as well have stuck with a single 1080 or SLI 1080s. 
    Realistically, can anyone tell me what performance you get using a Titan XP? Does it warrant the price of 2 1080s? My hesitation is seeing it unable to keep 60fps in TW3, and that's what I'm basing a lot of games off, since it's such a beautiful and intensive game for the GPU. It's the reason I'm upgrading my 780 SC ACX a year early to begin with. (stutter sucks.. and I enjoy having hairworks and all the plush options that nvidia users pay extra for)
     
    If the price wasn't so high, or the 1080s were in stock (hybrid or FTW), I'd have that and a new 2560x1440p gsync monitor on the way to my house this week.. Any real world info on this would be appreciated. I wish I knew that the Tis were weeks out, and I'd just bide my time. With my luck, they'd be 91 days from my date of purchase. 
     
     

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 16:11:18 (permalink)
    Cool GTX, let me be the devil on your other shoulder: don't do it!
     
    You've got a great rig already, and we're only a few months from the next big thing. Hold on now, then splurge on the next big thing and you'll be all set!

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 16:54:30 (permalink)
    2 1080s will be awesome for either 1440 or 4k. A single Titan I hear is not enough for 60fps in 4k with everything maxed.

    The Titan is only 20-30% faster then a 1080. If that's worth an extra $500+ then go for it.. but 2 1080s in sli will drag that Titan in any game that uses sli.

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 17:07:35 (permalink)
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    2 1080s will be awesome for either 1440 or 4k. A single Titan I hear is not enough for 60fps in 4k with everything maxed.

    The Titan is only 20-30% faster then a 1080. If that's worth an extra $500+ then go for it.. but 2 1080s in sli will drag that Titan in any game that uses sli.



    I think for now I'll grab a 1080 Hybrid(when I can find one in stock), as I really like the closed loop core cooler design, and play it safe with a single GPU for now, and hope if the 1080Ti comes out, it's within 3 months of now. (and not 91 days, as my luck would suggest)
    I think the single 1080 will be beefy enough for single GPU 1440p gaming.. at least enough to keep framerates fluid. 
     
    I would try and wait it out, but my frame rate in Elite on planetside in the SRV is terrible.. even at 60, the motion sickness is real. Hoping a HFR monitor will ease or alleviate that, coupled with a better GPU. 

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 17:22:51 (permalink)
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    Cool GTX, let me be the devil on your other shoulder: don't do it!
     
    You've got a great rig already, and we're only a few months from the next big thing. Hold on now, then splurge on the next big thing and you'll be all set!


    +1, Sensible reasoning.
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/12 17:24:08 (permalink)
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    Cool GTX, let me be the devil on your other shoulder: don't do it!
     
    You've got a great rig already, and we're only a few months from the next big thing. Hold on now, then splurge on the next big thing and you'll be all set!


    Exactly why my finger has yet to hit the buy it button
     
    More of a want than a need ---> Hit 3M+ PPD Folding
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 05:56:05 (permalink)
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    2 1080s will be awesome for either 1440 or 4k. A single Titan I hear is not enough for 60fps in 4k with everything maxed.

    The Titan is only 20-30% faster then a 1080. If that's worth an extra $500+ then go for it.. but 2 1080s in sli will drag that Titan in any game that uses sli.



    I'm getting 45% + faster on my Titan XP versus my 1080 FTW...both are overclocked.
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 07:33:35 (permalink)
    What game doom?

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 08:18:07 (permalink)
    Post #1:
     
    Folding @ home as the primary data point.
     
    Then Heaven benchmark.
     
    When I ran Timespy benchmark, I saw a 35% increase in graphics score.
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 08:28:04 (permalink)
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    Update to numbers...crunched 2 days worth of production...average production:
     
    Titan X Pascal (1900 MHz GPU): 1,186,151 points (just shy of 1.2 million...not quite the 1.3 million of my original post)
    1080 FTW (2100 MHz GPU): 799,598 points
     
    So, the Titan X Pascal (overclocked) shows 48% more production than a 1080 FTW (overclocked).
     
    Not too shabby!




    ( | V1 - V2 | / ((V1 + V2)/2) ) * 100 

    = ( | 1186151 - 799598 | / ((1186151 + 799598)/2) ) * 100 
    = ( | 386553 | / (1985749/2) ) * 100 
    = ( 386553 / 992874.5 ) * 100 
    = 0.389327 * 100 

    = 38.9327% difference

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 08:34:05 (permalink)
    Thanks for the math lesson...my turn:
     
    If I'm driving 50 miles per hour, I go 50 miles in one hour.
     
    If I drive 48% faster, I am driving 50 * 1.48 = 74 miles per hours...and I go 74 miles in one hour.
     
    1,186,151 / 799,598 = 1.483434 = 48.3434% ~ 48% MORE
     
    As a check, if I multiply 799,598 * 1.483434 I get 1,186,151
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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 08:54:09 (permalink)
    Its strange how the titan xp is so much faster than the 1080 being 11 tflops vs 9 maybe its the memory bandwidth at 480 gb/s stock that add to the rest of the difference maker.

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    Re: Titan X Pascal Performance 2016/09/13 09:04:12 (permalink)
    Not really sure...I will bet that the gap narrows some with driver optimization.
     
    Edit: There is another price to be paid...the Titan X Pascal is REALLY LOUD when running...the 1080 FTW is pretty darn quiet.
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