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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 08:56:22
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SprayingMango I do not understand people using Z390 systems with SLI...the 9900K does not have enough PCIe lanes to fully feed both cards. It's such a waste.
Though there may be a couple percent slowdown, the NVLink bridge is doing most of the heavy lifting. Gamer's Nexus did a test of it, and as long as you were using the nvlink, 16x/16x and 8x/8x were within the margin of error. In many games, the 9900k with a pair of 2080tis will outperform the 9980xe with a pair of 2080tis due to the higher single threaded clock speeds. 9980 is only faster if the application is doing a lot of multithreading.
and saying a couple percent is being generous lol. it was 1-2fps which was margin of error. there is essentially no difference if you use nvlink
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:15:28
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SprayingMango I do not understand people using Z390 systems with SLI...the 9900K does not have enough PCIe lanes to fully feed both cards. It's such a waste.
Though there may be a couple percent slowdown, the NVLink bridge is doing most of the heavy lifting. Gamer's Nexus did a test of it, and as long as you were using the nvlink, 16x/16x and 8x/8x were within the margin of error. In many games, the 9900k with a pair of 2080tis will outperform the 9980xe with a pair of 2080tis due to the higher single threaded clock speeds. 9980 is only faster if the application is doing a lot of multithreading.
and saying a couple percent is being generous lol. it was 1-2fps which was margin of error. there is essentially no difference if you use nvlink
I did say "may be" :) That review is when I decided going x299 was throw away $$ for my workloads. Are you "a91990086" on 3dmark? If so, I've been trying to chase you since we are both 2x 2080ti and 9900k and 4x sticks of ram. You are in a lower overclock reading on system specs, but still beating my score. You're killing me smalls!
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:22:42
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Very nice rig. Gave you a +1 on your mods rigs.
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:33:11
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:37:41
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ehabash1
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:44:40
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yea i love his rig. conceptually its similar to mine so right away it reminded me of my computer. Good Job! dont really understand the mods rigs thing so i dont believe ive ever posted my rig for reference
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:50:24
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ehabash1 if you guys want to talk about x8 vs x16 well, i have the #19 overall score in firestrike ultra so how do u explain that? And if my gpus were starved from the lanes then how do i have a top 10 graphics score in firestrike extreme? especially with all the ppl running around with galax cards/ ln2 / private bios how is the number 1 overall score using a 9900k with sli 2080tis? if its such a limiting factor why not swap cpus? https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18150307 time spy uses a stupid avx workload and 3dmark in general isnt a good representation of cpu performance in actually gaming. There are tons of benchmarks out there that show the 9900k outperform the rest in modern games They are nice if you can actually use the cores and threads but if your strictly building a gaming rig buying the 7980/9980xe is foolish as its arguably slower than the $500 9900k for gaming as for x8 vs x16.. this was tested and it only matters in ashes of singularity where u cant utilize nvlink. Since every other game can, the limited bandwidth via the pcie bus is irrelevant and x8/x8 performs essentially equally to x16
Just to comment that there is more to using a Computer than just Gamming on it. It is not foolish for users to want to build a Powerful Multi-Purpose Computer(s). It would be like saying if you are going to Just Game then you could just get an Game Counsel. This almost sounds like what a member posted a few years back saying that it was stupid to have more than one computer.
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:53:10
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ehabash1 dont really understand the mods rigs thing so i dont believe ive ever posted my rig for reference
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 09:58:45
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bcavnaugh Just to comment that there is more to using a Computer than just Gamming on it. It is not foolish for users to want to build a Powerful Multi-Purpose Computer(s). It would be like saying if you are going to Just Game then you could just get an Game Counsel. This almost sounds like what a member posted a few years back saying that it was stupid to have more than one computer.
i believe i used the terms "strictly building a gaming rig" with emphasis on the word strictly. There are ppl who legitimately pay an extra $1500 because they think the 9900k will bottleneck their systems. ive seen it all over and i want to correct that misunderstanding. If you can use the other cores/threads then thats great which i also stated. Please dont misunderstand me. If you have use for the 9980 its absolutely a better cpu. but if you build a gaming rig with the goal of simply having the best gaming performance, like me and many others, then the extreme cpus are a bad value dont take it as an insult it wasnt meant that way
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 10:00:42
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bcavnaugh Just to comment that there is more to using a Computer than just Gamming on it. It is not foolish for users to want to build a Powerful Multi-Purpose Computer(s). It would be like saying if you are going to Just Game then you could just get an Game Counsel. This almost sounds like what a member posted a few years back saying that it was stupid to have more than one computer.
i believe i used the terms "strictly building a gaming rig" with emphasis on the word strictly. There are ppl who legitimately pay an extra $1500 because they think the 9900k will bottleneck their systems. ive seen it all over and i want to correct that misunderstanding. If you can use the other cores/threads then thats great which i also stated. Please dont misunderstand me. If you have use for the 9980 its absolutely a better cpu. but if you build a gaming rig with the goal of simply having the best gaming performance, like me and many others, then the extreme cpus are a bad value dont take it as an insult it wasnt meant that way
None taken at all.
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 10:29:17
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I don't think either of us think that there isn't a market for the 9980, we weren't even discussing the cpu merit. There was just a comment earlier that 2x 2080s on the 9900 is throwing money away because 8x pci lanes will kill your performance, and that simply isn't true.
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Re: Timespy Extreme, crossing the 15000 graphics mark (2x 2080TI)
2019/02/12 10:31:45
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In my case, for the same ish money, I could run a 9900k and 2 2080tis or 9980 and 1 2080ti. If I was doing rendering I would be on the 9980xe, but for VR, 4k gaming, and watching movies, the money was better spent on a second 2080ti than a bigger proc.
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