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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2012/11/21 07:25:28 (permalink)
Thanks for this info dude!



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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2013/12/08 14:32:20 (permalink)
A lot of good information here. Thanks for the spreadsheet.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2013/12/31 02:43:49 (permalink)
It really makes you think about upgrading your hardware regularly, so that you have more efficient folding rigs, for cheaper electric bills. (and higher points as well :))
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2014/07/01 10:01:07 (permalink)
you could be lucky like me and have your work allow you to run it and not pay a dime on electricity cost 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2014/10/16 21:55:52 (permalink)
hmm , apox  cost of a full use 24hr 60amp breaker ? (had 8 puters going back in the day 24-7 on a 20amp -but it was for free)
 
always came home from work with only 2-3 work orders running and would have to restart for the night
 
anyone running 24hr farm flawlessly ?
 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2015/08/03 15:52:11 (permalink)
When you don't pay the bill, it's a pretty sweet deal :)


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2015/08/04 05:21:36 (permalink)
I run 24 hours, unless I'm gaming. Total electricity cost per day is $1 according to the battery backup. If I had a second computer it would be a farm. Luckily I can keep the door closed to save on ac costs. Makes the room nice and toasty 365 a year.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2015/09/23 06:04:30 (permalink)
Thanks for this post, I checked my power company and did the math and turned out if I leave my PC folding for 2 days I pay about 4 dollars. I think what I will do is fold for 48 hours a month. It still racks up around 2.5 million points, but when my computer is eating almost a full KWH an hour when folding, I need to be careful :) Not to mention I don't want to melt down my titans before the next titans come out ^_^


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2015/09/30 16:59:47 (permalink)
Last month it cost me $447.05 total electrical cost in my all electric home.
Folding on two computers and running the AC hard.
One PC CPU 2600k at 4.5 OC and two 980 HC at 1500 MHZ the other one is 2700k and same GPUs at same OC.
The 2600k is the one I use almost all the time watching netflix or gaming on. I just let if fold while doing all of that and still get a lot of points out of it.
Currently showing 718,869 ppd on it while in use one core 21 and one core 18 wu.



 
 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2015/09/30 18:51:40 (permalink)
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Last month it cost me $447.05 total electrical cost in my all electric home.
Folding on two computers and running the AC hard.
One PC CPU 2600k at 4.5 OC and two 980 HC at 1500 MHZ the other one is 2700k and same GPUs at same OC.
The 2600k is the one I use almost all the time watching netflix or gaming on. I just let if fold while doing all of that and still get a lot of points out of it.
Currently showing 718,869 ppd on it while in use one core 21 and one core 18 wu.


That's some serious folding! I dropped the a vid card into my files server to help out since it's running 24/7 anyways. I keep catching myself looking at cards to fold more, it's like a virus. I've been able to hold back so far lol.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 06:37:13 (permalink)
National Grid Wizardry!
My electric company tries to heap guilt on me and explain it. Forget the fact that I used less.

 

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 07:05:40 (permalink)
What!
Don't forget that you now have to pay a fee on the fees that the Billing Fees cost, then you have to add tax to each and you have do to that twice because you have to pay the State Tax on the Fees then you have pay the City Tax on the Fees.
Don't for get the 1 Extra Day cost for having an extra day.
 
My last Bill was lower than the month before it was only $432 (4049 kWh) less than $491 (4621 kWh) the month before that is.
 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 07:40:39 (permalink)
I get that neighbor comparison in the mail and rip it up before I open it. I hate being treated like an idiot by idiots.


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 07:43:58 (permalink)
Right with you on that one. 
I am still kinda surprised mine is that high..   but ya.. 
 
Is this the difference between Intel CPUs and AMD CPUS?       Muahhaha
 

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 07:54:31 (permalink)
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Right with you on that one. 
I am still kinda surprised mine is that high..   but ya.. 
 
Is this the difference between Intel CPUs and AMD CPUS?       Muahhaha
 



My last usage was 4049 kWh or my last Bill.
CPU cost is much lower than GPU usage and with AMD even Higher.
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 08:17:37 (permalink)
Probably more so generation of cpu and gpu. Current generation GPU are way more efficient than anything else. And older AMD cpus were way overboard with power draw.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 08:33:15 (permalink)
I'm not complaining after looking at those numbers.
 
My Folding is adding around 1500 KWH to last years comparison (rolling 13 month usage is on the bill)
 
However I have No idea how much is weather related.
 
Last two months about $150 increase for my 3 Folding Rigs  --- putting me less than $1/ 1M Points
 
The cost with my supplier 3,076 KWH = $309.16 with All fees & taxes (Dec 16, 2016 - Jan 18)
 
If I ever decide to retire /sell the (2) Titan X SC in Rig 2, I could possibly get it lower with 1080 replacements
 
Rig3, is i7-950 on a X58 MB with EVGA 1080 FE on air and Rig1 & 2 are in signature
 
 
 
 

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 08:44:44 (permalink)
I think the weather item is related to renewable sources. My bill has similar nonsense on it. There's all sorts of line items for fee recovery and power plant decommissioning charges and profit/loss on external sales of power to other areas.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 08:54:58 (permalink)
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Probably more so generation of cpu and gpu. Current generation GPU are way more efficient than anything else. And older AMD cpus were way overboard with power draw.

Not so bad on my AMD CPUs but cost wise any CPU takes less wattage then a GPU all I was saying.
My CPU Running takes 360-400 watts and add my GPUs jumps up to 680-730 Watts with a Pair of GTX 1080 Cards.
With pair of AMD R9 290x CPU Running takes 360-400 watts and the GPU jumps to 850-930 Watts.
For heat this summer I will run only CPU based Projects and only very few over night GPU Projects.
But in the Winter my GPUs Heat my house
 
The best thing about not running my old GTX 680 Classified Cards and GTX 690 Cards and GTX 780 Cards is they would cause my Circuit Breakers to overheat and even Run HOT.
So glad to only run some GTX 980 and some GTX 1080.
I even stopped running my AMD GPUs.
And I use my GTX Titans for Gaming ON THE DVI PORT.
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 08:56:23 (permalink)
I was trying to say, I do not know if my base household consumption changed from last year because it was colder/ warmer outside
 
More HVAC usage base on current outside conditions.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 09:24:39 (permalink)
Power has gotten so ridiculous in Southern CA.  I recently got rid of older hardware and cut down on power usage.
Replaced my old AMD 4p server and use newer gpus with lower power draw.
 
With the latest "update" to rates, I went from about $100/mo at full power to over $200 with the same hardware...and am now labeled as an excessive user.
i7 3930k, 980ti (paused now), 970, 1060, 2xE5-2670 (Folding and Crunching)
...usage is exactly the same as before!
I also send the notices straight to the trash "you are using xxx% more than your neighbors"
 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 09:36:21 (permalink)
My electric costs are 1/2 what they were 18 months ago while I try to maintain my folding and crunching output of that time. The best way to do this is with LED light bulbs because they pay for themselves very quickly.  Also have taken less efficient HW offline and replaced when I can.
 


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 09:42:07 (permalink)
I heard that in AZ they(elec.utility) heap extra taxes on your bill if you try to add solar panels. Don't know if it's true but wouldn't be surprised.


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 10:05:54 (permalink)
So here is my question about PPD/W, if a 1070 Hybrid is 185 watts, and a 1070 FTW hybrid is 215 watts, but they basically OC to the same amount... is it more efficient to just get the lowest watt 1070?
 
Question 2, for folding during the summer, is hybrid or air cooled better? Hybrid keeps the card cooler, but is basically just better at heating up the air right? So my room temp will actually go up faster causing ambient temperature to rise. I'm still going with hybrid, just wondering out loud.

 
 

 
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 10:30:07 (permalink)
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So here is my question about PPD/W, if a 1070 Hybrid is 185 watts, and a 1070 FTW hybrid is 215 watts, but they basically OC to the same amount... is it more efficient to just get the lowest watt 1070?
 
Question 2, for folding during the summer, is hybrid or air cooled better? Hybrid keeps the card cooler, but is basically just better at heating up the air right? So my room temp will actually go up faster causing ambient temperature to rise. I'm still going with hybrid, just wondering out loud.




1) capable of that many watts, not will draw that many
 
2) hybrid will probably make more PPD as GPU will not be as warm
Nvidia "magic" (Dynamic frequency contro) keeps the card cool by lowering the clock/voltage slightly at certain temps
My 1080 FE will start to slow around 50 C
 
3) Cooler temp of GPU because water is better than air at moving the heat
 
4) If the watts consumed does not change then the room temp will stabilize to the same temp, either way - is my understanding.  
 
If your GPU card consumes 150 Watts of power that becomes the heat load on the room, regardless of heatsink exhaust temp.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 11:00:00 (permalink)
Also to note that some Folding WUs will run Hotter then other WUs.
Taking more wattage at the same time reducing the GPU Clock.


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 11:27:56 (permalink)
That's what I'm talking about bcavnaugh, my Intel haswell draws under 120 watts fully loaded with compute tasks. My 1080 and 970 combo pulls about 384 watts depending on the workload.

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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/16 11:47:22 (permalink)
Getting Hot outside today, it is now at 72F and 80 inside.
Time to take a break from Folding until later tonight.
Whatever happened to Winter in Colorado.
 
Last Friday was the warmest-ever February day in Denver, Colorado Springs and Pueblo, hitting 80 degrees at Denver International Airport before 1:45 p.m.
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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/17 19:56:53 (permalink)
bcavnaughMy last Bill was lower than the month before it was only $432 (4049 kWh) less than $491 (4621 kWh) the month before that is.



Over the last 28 months (folding up to 14 days per month for most of that time), my average monthly bill was only $98.71... If I ever come up with a $400 electric bill, they'd have to shut off my power.  


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Re:Time-of-Use electricity rate calculations 2017/02/18 09:20:25 (permalink)
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bcavnaughMy last Bill was lower than the month before it was only $432 (4049 kWh) less than $491 (4621 kWh) the month before that is.



Over the last 28 months (folding up to 14 days per month for most of that time), my average monthly bill was only $98.71... If I ever come up with a $400 electric bill, they'd have to shut off my power.  


Well I am a Dedicated Folder I guess, but then I do more than just Folding.
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