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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/21 12:49:39 (permalink)
I dunno what words I'm using that are triggering the auto-approval needed bot 😑 I replied to you both, it'll post once it's approved by a mod. Sorry.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/21 15:03:56 (permalink)
got my first black screen.... jeeeeesus
weird fact is that i am using it 7/7 to work with unreal engine and play cyberpunk and is everything ok ... tried gta online and got black screen while loading game... i don't know what to think
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/22 13:48:54 (permalink)
Couple of updates:
 
Those looking to "Fix" their stuttering issues with the 460.97 "hotfix" drivers in Marvel's Avengers - I'd recommend against it.  It made my stuttering in that game MUCH WORSE and MORE noticeable.  In fact on the 460.89s I have very few issues in that game now, no significant/persistent stuttering, no stuttering after prolonged playing sessions, and my game doesn't go completely bonkers if I bump up in to the 10000MB of vRAM usage range on occasion like it did with my 3080.
The temperature readout bug is present still on both the 460.97 and 460.89 drivers, unfortunately.
 
I have experimented with BIOS changes, was not comfortable going the full length of trying the Kingpin 520W or 1000W BIOS on my card since the ladder would definitely void my warranty & even the former technically would if eVGA wanted to be mean about it.  I can say that I am still experiencing hard-limiting at 450W Power Limit in the majority of applications.  Even with the "workaround"ish thing of downclocking the vRAM a bit, I still only see about 465W maximum power draw in Port Royal - I have yet to see any game pull more than 450W either - hopefully eVGA is going to release a BIOS update that actually gives us 500W... eventually...
 
Looks like my hopes for a Kingpin aren't going to come try til next year, baring a drop tomorrow before they close, and even then, I'll haveta be on that like white on rice to get it to actually ship tomorrow.
 
Currently debating between a few kits for the CPU or just doing my own loop configuration with custom parts all together, the current options I'm looking at are these, or getting the smaller radiator kit & picking up a larger radiator separately: https://spartanliquidcooling.com/product/ek-classic-kit-p360-d-rgb/ or https://spartanliquidcooling.com/product/ek-quantum-power-kit-d-rgb-p360/ 
If anyone has experience with either of those kits, your feedback would be appreciated.
 
2040MHz at 981mV has been completely stable in everything I've thrown at it so far, including Cyberpunk - whilst also running much cooler than stock.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/27 20:44:15 (permalink)
Alright. Finished installing it today and damn the card is cool now. Almost as good as a custom waterblock, i say almost because i know a custom water block with at least a 280mm rad will dorp temps by another 4-5C. 

But so far super happy. Pump is hella quite (top mounted rad,as intake) with Noctua NF-F12's. 
Max GPU temps after all evening of gaming 55C and max VRM temp was 60C on the hottest ones. Otherwise they were hovering around low to mid 50's. 
Pump now is literally non-existent. Im easily able to hold 2115Mhz now while gaming. 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/28 14:23:59 (permalink)
The power limit issue this BIOS/card has (I assume it's mostly BIOS settings that's the issue, hopefully they fix it sometime soon) is really the only thing holding me back from at least 2100+ stable.
Hoping I can get a 3090 Kingpin & really push things next month.  We'll see.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/28 17:22:38 (permalink)
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The power limit issue this BIOS/card has (I assume it's mostly BIOS settings that's the issue, hopefully they fix it sometime soon) is really the only thing holding me back from at least 2100+ stable.
Hoping I can get a 3090 Kingpin & really push things next month.  We'll see.




Hi, do you have a 3090 FTW3 with 500W BIOS issue? Could you download RTX Quake 2 and run it with all slider max and see if it holds 490W-500W?
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/28 17:36:40 (permalink)
so I finally got my kit for my 3090 FTW3....
 
Lowered idle temps from 29C to 24 to 25C in a 22 ambient room...
 
lowered load temps from 70-75 to 50-55...
 
all in all I'm happy..
 
It's not quiet tho...heh
 
 
Edit: I'm not OC'ing the card...I see no need.
 

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/28 17:42:12 (permalink)
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so I finally got my kit for my 3090 FTW3....
 
Lowered idle temps from 29C to 24 to 25C in a 22 ambient room...
 
lowered load temps from 70-75 to 50-55...
 
all in all I'm happy..
 
It's not quiet tho...heh
 
 
Edit: I'm not OC'ing the card...I see no need.
 


What is the noise like? Have you done a Db measurement? I'm interested in this for my 3090 Ultra.
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/29 06:29:55 (permalink)
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so I finally got my kit for my 3090 FTW3....
 
Lowered idle temps from 29C to 24 to 25C in a 22 ambient room...
 
lowered load temps from 70-75 to 50-55...
 
all in all I'm happy..
 
It's not quiet tho...heh
 
 
Edit: I'm not OC'ing the card...I see no need.
 


What is the noise like? Have you done a Db measurement? I'm interested in this for my 3090 Ultra.




 
With the fans/pump at 100%, and if my iPhone is to be believed, it's about 53Db.......

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/29 06:49:41 (permalink)
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I want to know the difference between ftw3 and kingpin


1. Binning(all but admitted to)
2. PCB Quality/Components: Able to be evaluated objectively, but whether performance to be gained remains to be ratified.
There is at least one anecdotal example on this forum of a founders edition 3090 surpassing OOTB Kingpin performance.
Kingpin has always been for the 'lift the hood' enthusiasts, but Ampere may be a challenge to market segmentation for EVGA.
3. OC Enthusiast hardware-level features and exclusive software.
4. Appeal of water-blocking.

All of these (my subjective) selling points are in the Kingpin's favor. The degree to which they're in your favor as a wavering-consumer remains to be seen, and influenced by cost:value.

Great post
Very true that Ampere is unique in that this time most AIB cards (and FE really) are oh so close in performance to each other.
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/29 20:50:43 (permalink)
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so I finally got my kit for my 3090 FTW3....
 
Lowered idle temps from 29C to 24 to 25C in a 22 ambient room...
 
lowered load temps from 70-75 to 50-55...
 
all in all I'm happy..
 
It's not quiet tho...heh
 
 
Edit: I'm not OC'ing the card...I see no need.



#1, don't trust anything Apple makes - personal opinion.  If it is at 53dB you wouldn't be able to hear much else over it unless you have a "loud" system - but it's possible.  It is entirely possible your card is "louder" than most.
I can't hear mine unless I literally put my ear to the card's rear exhaust area, as far as pump noise goes.  But, my system does have ... 16 or 15 fans in it currently, though most of them are set to 50-60% aka fairly silent.
the GPU radiator fans eVGA includes can get OBNOXIOUSLY loud though, if you let them go full bore.  I have them cap out at around 2400RPM (if the GPU radiator exhaust is above 36C, indicating the GPU is under heavy load), which is noticeable, but not "loud", at least not in a room that has a room-fan going that tends to drull out any other noise for the most part.
Is the noise the annoying kind, or the "general hum" kind that isn't annoying?  Grindy or regular?  If it's "grindy", that's not a good sign.  The pump should sound... for a comparison most people can relate to, like what a washing machine would sound like if it were fairly quiet.  Any high pitched or grinding-style noise is not normal/sub optimal operation possibly.
 
The differences between the Kingpin & regular FTW3 are larger than normal, because the FTW3 is less spectacular than previous generations.  Kingpin does 100% have a better quality PCB & components, and cooling on the VRMs etc.  So if you're already wanting an FTW3, you'd be better off forking out the $200 extra to get a Kingpin if you can manage it.
That's what I plan on doing, this FTW3 will be right back out the window not long after the Kingpin arrives... gonna use eVGA Bucks to buy an NVLink bridge, do some SLi testing for the funsies, mostly for Port Royal personal records, then resell the 3090 FTW3 Hybrid.
 
Also, OC/undervolting on these cards works wonders.  Running at 1980MHz @ 950mV or 2040MHz @ 981mV has netted me even cooler temperatures, less power draw, and faster than-stock frame rates, all at the same time.  Had zero stability issues with it so far at those settings.  I've been mostly running the 2040 settings though.
 
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The power limit issue this BIOS/card has (I assume it's mostly BIOS settings that's the issue, hopefully they fix it sometime soon) is really the only thing holding me back from at least 2100+ stable.
Hoping I can get a 3090 Kingpin & really push things next month.  We'll see.




Hi, do you have a 3090 FTW3 with 500W BIOS issue? Could you download RTX Quake 2 and run it with all slider max and see if it holds 490W-500W?


Don't have the game, but literally nothing I've tried to run on the XOC 500W Beta BIOS actually hits 500W.  So far Time Spy/TSE has gotten the closest, I've seen up to 489-497W in that, with modified settings turning the vRAM DOWN in speed slightly with the GPU core OCed.
It is very clearly a BIOS or hardware issue related to the vRAM not being allowed to draw the power it needs, which results in the "PWR" limit being shown even when you're only hitting sometimes as low as 434W - I know that because I can run settings, get Power Limit readouts, then turn the vRAM speed down by -250MHz, no other changes, and suddenly the Power Limit readout in GPUz or HWInfo doesn't happen, and the core clock is more stable as a result.
I really hope this is something BIOS related that they can fix so people don't actually need to RMA their cards just to get one that doesn't have the issue.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/30 04:31:04 (permalink)
Are you guys happy  with  this card? Started to be available in Europe since few weeks, but now more and more.
Most likely Made in Taiwan...
But I noticed too many post with these cards dying, then I decided to wait KP, but there seems lottery too with coil whine and pump noise...
 
I was really happy with evga cards so far, had  780s, 980s,1080 hybrid, now 2080Ti KP...
**** happened, not so reliable anymore?
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/30 04:44:41 (permalink)
I do have a loud system...and mostly I don't care...because my hearing is bad anyway..
 
regardless;
 
Does anyone know the CF/M Airflow of the hybrid fans? I'm curious
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Are you guys happy  with  this card? Started to be available in Europe since few weeks, but now more and more.
Most likely Made in Taiwan...
But I noticed too many post with these cards dying, then I decided to wait KP, but there seems lottery too with coil whine and pump noise...
 
I was really happy with evga cards so far, had  780s, 980s,1080 hybrid, now 2080Ti KP...
**** happened, not so reliable anymore?




I am happy with the kit thus far...and the card? Certainly. The alarmism over the red lights disgusts me. Probably hundreds of thousands of cards in the wild at this point...and 10 to 15 people whining on the forums ....sorry..seems fine to me....some 'lemons' do happen.
 
 

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2020/12/31 12:19:49 (permalink)
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I do have a loud system...and mostly I don't care...because my hearing is bad anyway..
 
regardless;
 
Does anyone know the CF/M Airflow of the hybrid fans? I'm curious
gsorin
Are you guys happy  with  this card? Started to be available in Europe since few weeks, but now more and more.
Most likely Made in Taiwan...
But I noticed too many post with these cards dying, then I decided to wait KP, but there seems lottery too with coil whine and pump noise...
 
I was really happy with evga cards so far, had  780s, 980s,1080 hybrid, now 2080Ti KP...
**** happened, not so reliable anymore?




I am happy with the kit thus far...and the card? Certainly. The alarmism over the red lights disgusts me. Probably hundreds of thousands of cards in the wild at this point...and 10 to 15 people whining on the forums ....sorry..seems fine to me....some 'lemons' do happen.

 
At max speed? A LOT.  At a reasonable speed noise wise, they still move a lot of air.  They go up to around 3000RPM but they're obnoxious at full speed.  I have mine capping out at 2400RPM if they radiator exhaust is warm enough (36C+) and I can only hear it through my headphones if the game is very quiet, even then, not that noticable, and that's with the lesser-sound dampening earcups on said headphones.
 
As for the red light issue, I agree, people need to keep in mind the complaints we get here are but a percent of people that actually have the card, QC problems will always happen, is it alarming? A little, but the chances of you getting two bad cards in a row (unless it's your system killing the card) are very low.  I did not have any issues what so ever with my early 3080 FTW3 Ultra, nor have I had any with this card (other than it not hitting power target), nor do I expect any with the Kingpin. 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/11 08:25:53 (permalink)
Update on arrangement of things, I'm sure this will trigger people because of how my CPU AIO radiator is arranged, but the tubes on the Thermaltake Floe 280mm are only 350mm or shorter so it won't reach the other way lol
 
 

 
Hoping I can get the Kingpin this week, fingers crossed...a nd wow i just noticed how warped my 3090 looks in that second pic lol
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/13 01:32:37 (permalink)

 
Coming in a few days... hoping I get a unit that doesn't have much in the way of backlight bleed on the edges.  Either way, I'm excited as fork for it.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/13 04:27:24 (permalink)
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Coming in a few days... hoping I get a unit that doesn't have much in the way of backlight bleed on the edges.  Either way, I'm excited as fork for it.


 
I am not sure how similar they are, but I just returned the G7. G-sync was absolute trash. Flicker, sometimes subtlee but makes things not feel smooth and if you enable their "fix" setting VRR control, it causes very noticable Microstutter. 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/13 04:37:50 (permalink)
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Coming in a few days... hoping I get a unit that doesn't have much in the way of backlight bleed on the edges.  Either way, I'm excited as fork for it.


 
I am not sure how similar they are, but I just returned the G7. G-sync was absolute trash. Flicker, sometimes subtlee but makes things not feel smooth and if you enable their "fix" setting VRR control, it causes very noticable Microstutter. 



The stutter/flicker issue on the G9 was fixed with a firmware update according to most reviews.  We'll see when my unit arrives.  The G7 & G9 are similar but there are some differences, and there were also issues with 30-series cards that have no been fixed with an update as well.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/13 05:07:26 (permalink)
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Coming in a few days... hoping I get a unit that doesn't have much in the way of backlight bleed on the edges.  Either way, I'm excited as fork for it.


 
I am not sure how similar they are, but I just returned the G7. G-sync was absolute trash. Flicker, sometimes subtlee but makes things not feel smooth and if you enable their "fix" setting VRR control, it causes very noticable Microstutter. 



The stutter/flicker issue on the G9 was fixed with a firmware update according to most reviews.  We'll see when my unit arrives.  The G7 & G9 are similar but there are some differences, and there were also issues with 30-series cards that have no been fixed with an update as well.



Hope you have better luck than me. I ended up going for the AW2721D but doesn't look like it is going to arrive anytime soon. 
 
 
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Now top 40 on the 9900K/Single 3090 leaderboard, LES GO


 
Just curious, what did you do to get average temperatures of 49C while heavily OC'd? I got my replacement kit and it is a lot better temps but with a similar OC I was getting 7C warmer. What kind of fan speed were you using?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/770987 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/13 15:47:26 (permalink)
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Hope you have better luck than me. I ended up going for the AW2721D but doesn't look like it is going to arrive anytime soon. 
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Now top 40 on the 9900K/Single 3090 leaderboard, LES GO


 
Just curious, what did you do to get average temperatures of 49C while heavily OC'd? I got my replacement kit and it is a lot better temps but with a similar OC I was getting 7C warmer. What kind of fan speed were you using?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/770987 




That score is actually old news:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/651793

Sadly since the last few driver releases, I haven't been able to crack 14.7k again.
 
The GPU's onboard VRM fan I set to 80% & left it there for the duration of the test.  The GPU Radiator fans, most likely I had set to somewhere around 80% as well, which would translate to 2300-2400RPM on the 2 eVGA fans & probably around 1900RPM for the 2 exhaust-EK Vardar RGB fans.  I have the radiator in push pull, ambient temp in the room was ~70F, and I likely had the case intake fans set at 70-80% as well for the test.
 
One can say that's "unrealistic" but that's actually about the speeds they ramp up to when I'm gaming if the GPU & VRMs get hot (I have the intake fans on my case programmed to increase speed based on the Motherboard VRM temps (AKA when the CPU is under load) and the GPU Radiator fans controlled via a motherboard Thermocouple that's routed up to the exhaust temperature of the GPU radiator, and when it goes above ~35C (which it does under load quite regularly) they hit the 80% mark.  Here's a screencap of it:
 

 
CPU Opt is what I have the GPU radiator fans plugged in to (via a splitter, they're powered off the PSU by 4-pin molex, but report PWM/fan speed & are controlled via the plug in to the motherboard).
 
The part that isn't "daily useable" would be the clocks, pretty sure, haven't actually tried it, but I would assume that would crash the drivers under prolonged gaming conditions eventually, because trying to go up one more step on the GPU core clock resulted in Port Royal crashing pretty quickly.
 
I don't have a maximum load temp since it was ran with all background processes closed, but if I had to guess, the maximum temp was around 53-57C because that's what it tops out at during testing/gaming on the GPU core temp.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/15 04:24:33 (permalink)
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Hope you have better luck than me. I ended up going for the AW2721D but doesn't look like it is going to arrive anytime soon. 
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/55030204
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Now top 40 on the 9900K/Single 3090 leaderboard, LES GO


 
Just curious, what did you do to get average temperatures of 49C while heavily OC'd? I got my replacement kit and it is a lot better temps but with a similar OC I was getting 7C warmer. What kind of fan speed were you using?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/770987 




That score is actually old news:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/651793

Sadly since the last few driver releases, I haven't been able to crack 14.7k again.
 
The GPU's onboard VRM fan I set to 80% & left it there for the duration of the test.  The GPU Radiator fans, most likely I had set to somewhere around 80% as well, which would translate to 2300-2400RPM on the 2 eVGA fans & probably around 1900RPM for the 2 exhaust-EK Vardar RGB fans.  I have the radiator in push pull, ambient temp in the room was ~70F, and I likely had the case intake fans set at 70-80% as well for the test.
 
One can say that's "unrealistic" but that's actually about the speeds they ramp up to when I'm gaming if the GPU & VRMs get hot (I have the intake fans on my case programmed to increase speed based on the Motherboard VRM temps (AKA when the CPU is under load) and the GPU Radiator fans controlled via a motherboard Thermocouple that's routed up to the exhaust temperature of the GPU radiator, and when it goes above ~35C (which it does under load quite regularly) they hit the 80% mark.  Here's a screencap of it:
 

 
CPU Opt is what I have the GPU radiator fans plugged in to (via a splitter, they're powered off the PSU by 4-pin molex, but report PWM/fan speed & are controlled via the plug in to the motherboard).
 
The part that isn't "daily useable" would be the clocks, pretty sure, haven't actually tried it, but I would assume that would crash the drivers under prolonged gaming conditions eventually, because trying to go up one more step on the GPU core clock resulted in Port Royal crashing pretty quickly.
 
I don't have a maximum load temp since it was ran with all background processes closed, but if I had to guess, the maximum temp was around 53-57C because that's what it tops out at during testing/gaming on the GPU core temp.




Thanks, that explains that. I have 2 Noctua F12s that spin at about 1350 max so that makes sense if you have 4 EK fans at around 2000. 
 
I tried push pull with my Noctuas and the stock ones but that actually made things worse somehow. Probably cause the stock can run at double the speed.
 
The pump noise on this one is just as bad as the first unfortunately, but the first one got way better after a while so I am hoping this one does also.  One thing I have found that greatly affects temps is my top dust filter where I exhaust. If I take that off my temperature drop 4-5C. I didn't think that would make such an impact. 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/15 19:43:25 (permalink)
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Thanks, that explains that. I have 2 Noctua F12s that spin at about 1350 max so that makes sense if you have 4 EK fans at around 2000. 
 
I tried push pull with my Noctuas and the stock ones but that actually made things worse somehow. Probably cause the stock can run at double the speed.
 
The pump noise on this one is just as bad as the first unfortunately, but the first one got way better after a while so I am hoping this one does also.  One thing I have found that greatly affects temps is my top dust filter where I exhaust. If I take that off my temperature drop 4-5C. I didn't think that would make such an impact. 



Are you running the fans off the GPU's fan splitter, or straight off the PSU?  There's no way Push/Pull should make temps worse, makes no sense.  The EVGA stock fans run at a significantly different RPM than the EK ones, but they both ramp up to 80% on my fan curve under heavy load/high exhaust temps from the radiator.  80% for the eVGA fans is ~2300-2400RPM, 80% for the EK fans is around 1800RPM.  Minorly loud, but I can't really hear it through either of the headphones I use to game (earbuds and a Logitech G Pro X).
I leave the top of my case propped up while I'm gaming so the exhaust isn't blocked by the dust filter.  That definitely makes a difference, some of the air gets trapped if you have a dust filter in the way, even a high flow type one.
 
Also, I can only use one word for this thing... Massive.
 


 
So far, no light bleed issues that I can see when sitting in front of the screen, the 240Hz mode works perfectly once you update firmware (which is as simple as downloading the file from Samsung's site, putting it on a USB stick drive & plugging that in to the monitor the telling it to update).
Also, Cyberpunk doesn't "extremely stretch" things near the peripheral view, it's just extra view, which is amazing:
 

The screenshot was taken via Steam so the quality of it is quite lacking in terms of clarity etc.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/17 00:17:12 (permalink)
Ordered a new desk-arm for the monitor that someone reviewed in the monitor's reviews as well as the arm itself saying it works with this monitor, hoping for the best... if not I'll just return the arm, thanks Amazon for having easy returns :-D
 
https://smile.amazon.com/WALI-Monitor-Adjustable-Capacity-GSM001XL/dp/B07NLMLLT6/
 
Is the arm in question.
 

 
Impressions on the monitor itself so far:
Picture quality is great, color looks great but I'm not a big picky person on color etc so some may judge it harder that I do.
Had to do a firmware update on the monitor (downloaded the firmware via Samsung's website on to a USB stick drive then plugged it in to the monitor in it's "service" USB plug, clicked software update in the screen's OSD menus, it did the rest) to get 240Hz working at 5120x1440, but it does now work, no flickering issues.
The build quality, despite the back being plastic, is pretty solid, the stand is pretty beefy but the legs are ridiculously long, hence why I'm buying a monitor arm for it.
The visuals from the monitor side of things are awesome though.  It's so immersive it actually gave me that feeling most people get the first time they use VR, where your body feels like it should be moving based on visuals even though it's not, resulting in some brain-altering vertigo-esque feels for a while, but that passed after about an hour or so of usage.
Played several hours of Cyberpunk 2077 & boy does that game make the 3090 work at this resolution.  I ended up bumping DLSS up from Quality to Balanced because the frame rate dropped just enough where combat was sketchy at times now instead of being perfectly playable at 3440 x 1440.   And note that's with the 3090 FTW3 Hybrid @ 2040MHz 1000mV, so overclocked/undervolted decently well.
I will say this though, I'm currently using it at "only" 120Hz, because I found that running at 240Hz results in both GPU vRAM & GPU core not downclocking fully at idle even on desktop, and since I'm not playing any competitive games that "need" that higher refresh rate at the moment, I'd rather save the unnecessary stress on my GPU... once I roll back around to playing CSGO, I'll set it up so that specifically in that game, I'm running at 240Hz with GSync on & capped at 240.
I also love the Super-Ultrawide implementation in Cyberpunk 2077 as far as how the resolution works, it's not fish-eyed/severely stretched as you go to the side more, it's just "extra vision", like your eyes would be, very well done, hopefully at least some other games are like that.
 
Next bit of experimenting will be me possibly using the XC3 BIOS on my card to see if I can remove the Power Limit issue I keep having where I'm seeing Power Limit listed as a PerfCap reason sometimes as low as 420W of draw, which is ridiculous... otherwise, this card will be RMAed after I finally get my Kingpin because I'm not about to try reselling a card that won't even hit 450W on the 500W BIOS reliably.
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what a beautiful card
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  the box looks great 
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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/19 21:34:23 (permalink)
Arm will be here tomorrow due to shipping delays, hopefully the install will go smoothly & it can actually handle the weight as advertised.  I'm mostly concerned about the tilt up/down aspect of the arm being able to handle the size.  Despite someone reviewing the arm & saying they're using it specifically for the G9 & have had no issues with over a month of use, I'm still paranoid.
 
I will say HDR mode is gimmicky as crap on this monitor because it doesn't have enough lighting zones to make it look good in dark scenes.  Other than that, the monitor is amazing so far & I'm very happy with it.
 
10 spots away in the Kingpin queue now so I guess next drop will be hitting me... that means I gotta finish things up on the 3090 FTW3 Hybrid in terms of testing & giving it an honest review I guess.

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/20 12:06:20 (permalink)
Well I guess I was wrong, my Kingpin has been ordered & might be here as early as Friday!
 
In the meantime, the arm is in & installed, and surprisingly as sturdy as advertised despite the girth & heft of this monitor:
 


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nice monitor.. one day I will save up for one..

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Re: The Arrival - RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid Unboxing, installation & review to come! 2021/01/22 18:26:23 (permalink)

 
Kingpin soon come.  Monday.
 
That means I have the weekend to get a more comprehensive final thoughts on this card.  Honestly if it wasn't for the "500W" power limit thing not working at all, I'd say it's pretty much perfect.  Overpriced, but perfect.  It really is unfortunate it has the PCIe draw issue that results in it not being able to hit power limit.
Despite that, it does run what would be Kingpin stock clocks, at 1000mV, with zero issues - hours of Cyberpunk & benchmarks have been thrown at it while running 2040MHz with absolutely no game/benchmark crashes or driver crashes.  The only issue I've had with that is when Afterburner randomly decides HEY LET'S SET 2055/2070 instead of 2040MHz for absolutely no reason - I typically catch that quickly & revert it back to 2040MHz.
I have considered pushing a higher speed at the next few steps up in voltage, I will probably test that over the weekend.  If I can get something around 2070 or maybe 2085MHz stable with an undervolt, that would be pretty impressive since most people, especially with the "500W" BIOS problem like I'm having, cannot get 2100+ stable (and actually HOLD at 2100MHz+ in benchmarks) even with full voltage.
I'm also curious just how stable/unstable any vRAM OCing will be, haven't really put that to a true test of trying to run it 24/7, since I noticed pretty early on that underclocking the vRAM seems to raise the limit at which it starts actually showing Power Limit, indicating it could also be the VRAM that's drawing more than spec causing the Power Limit to be "hit" before 500W.  I've run 1000-1100 in benchmarks & based every time, and done score testing to ensure I'm seeing score increases from 500 to 750 then 1000 and 1100, and the scores on Port Royal did go up each time... but then again, passing Port Royal is not an indication of stability, merely a show that if the score is going up, there is an increase being seeing from the vRAM OC increase.
 
For now, it's back to my Street Kid playthrough on Cyberpunk 2077.

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