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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 08:38:17
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It's not really leveling the playing field, it's piling a mountain on top of the online retailers. A local retailer has one state and one locality to worry about. The Egg will have 50 states and thousands upon thousands of localities to worry about and keep up with changing tax laws. Leveling the playing field would be for the online retailer to be required to collect taxes in the state and locality where it operates, not where the customer resides.
Amazon adds taxes to specific states. Its automated and written into the code for the site. They only update it when there is a need, which is relatively rare. Tax laws may hange, but the business is collecting and paying in the tax. Large businesses have lawyers and accountants that review and make sure they are following the rules, and they are paid well to do their work, so they should do their job.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 08:59:50
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Yes, large businesses do. What about the rest of them that don't have office buildings full of lawyers to deal with it?
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 09:09:06
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Yes, large businesses do. What about the rest of them that don't have office buildings full of lawyers to deal with it?
Even smaller companies who ship to other states know the laws and they may only have 1 lawyer or 2 but these lawyers have to know the law. So right now it is a much more level playing field for local and state run businesses.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 09:15:32
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Yes, large businesses do. What about the rest of them that don't have office buildings full of lawyers to deal with it?
If a business doesnt have a lawyer or accountant, big or small, they are in for a world of hurt if they get sued. They should probably make sure they have legal council.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 09:33:24
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HaywireHaywood
Yes, large businesses do. What about the rest of them that don't have office buildings full of lawyers to deal with it?
If a business doesnt have a lawyer or accountant, big or small, they are in for a world of hurt if they get sued. They should probably make sure they have legal council.
Almost every small business has an accountant. That accountant also needs to know if a company order needs to pay sales tax when shipping to another state.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 09:33:52
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Going to be much easier than that to implement. All online retailers have to use a payment processor of some sort to receive payment. I am sure almost all payment processors will update their service to account for Sales Tax, otherwise they will lose their customers to payment processors who can provide this service. These same processors already provide monthly statements and most also provide in-depth sales analysis tools, so it's not going to be a big deal to add functionality to download sales data by taxing locality, and likely they will even be able to submit the Sales Tax directly to the relevant taxing authorities on behalf of the retailers. Big opportunity here for someone with the smarts and resources to set up a business to cater to the new sales tax requirements.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 19:53:47
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great more money for states to waste. our founders would be floored if they seen the taxes we pay, we fought a war over tax on tea for crying out loud! but now a single product is taxed how many times? the whole tax system from federal to state and local needs completely redone.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/24 21:07:50
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great more money for states to waste. our founders would be floored if they seen the taxes we pay, we fought a war over tax on tea for crying out loud! but now a single product is taxed how many times? the whole tax system from federal to state and local needs completely redone.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/28 19:41:17
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in-state or out-of-state individual?
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/28 19:46:11
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in-state or out-of-state individual?
In-state retailers have always had to add any applicable sales taxes. This new law is for out-of-state retailers with no physical presence in the state they are selling in. Just the fact they are selling to someone is now enough to establish nexus in the customer's state, and therefore they have to add applicable sales tax(es) to the sale price, and submit those collected taxes to the state where the sale was made.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/28 19:51:56
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What about a vagrant? Someone with no home state? Are you supposed to pay the taxes from where you live, or the place of purchase? Vagrant travelling workers is becoming more popular.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/28 20:03:47
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What about a vagrant? Someone with no home state? Are you supposed to pay the taxes from where you live, or the place of purchase? Vagrant travelling workers is becoming more popular.
I presume wherever he or she lives at the time the order is made - which is likely where the item is delivered to.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/28 22:17:50
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I would think you have to have an address or a PO box, You have to pay federal taxes and state taxes (states that have income tax anyway.) on income.
How can you mail order or buy online with out an address to ship to. Most places require a valid and confirmed shipping address.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/29 07:53:53
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How can you mail order or buy online with out an address to ship to. Most places require a valid and confirmed shipping address.
PO Box.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2018/06/29 12:30:49
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
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Got an email from EVGA today telling me about 21% extra added to your EVGA Bucks if you're an EVGA ELITE member (which started on July 16th, little late on getting this email out EVGA) Figured I would look around at some stuff. Tossed an item into cart, went to pay for it and I now see EVGA is charging a sales tax at checkout. When did this start?
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 16:51:53
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every state has a mandated time (which varies). Most states do now. For Texas at least, it was October of last year.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 16:54:23
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Got an email from EVGA today telling me about 21% extra added to your EVGA Bucks if you're an EVGA ELITE member (which started on July 16th, little late on getting this email out EVGA) Figured I would look around at some stuff. Tossed an item into cart, went to pay for it and I now see EVGA is charging a sales tax at checkout. When did this start?
Since you are the person who started this thread more than 2 years ago, I would expect you to be aware.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 17:39:54
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Since you are the person who started this thread more than 2 years ago, I would expect you to be aware.
It's like hollywood. We've run out of good topics.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 17:56:02
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Taxes do not benefit those that are paying them therefore taxes are a joke. New gas tax to help fix the roads (tax on top of already taxed prices that is) and NO road repairs are being done anywhere. Oh boy! Also, ya'l need to chill, freaking stressing out about this, gettin mad about someone else's opinion. Get over yourselves. And if you took offense to that I guess I was talkin about you. /Fin
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 18:30:48
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every state has a mandated time (which varies). Most states do now. For Texas at least, it was October of last year.
Amazon still isn't charging me sales tax on most purchases, so I don't think it has to do with my state? ty_ger07
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Got an email from EVGA today telling me about 21% extra added to your EVGA Bucks if you're an EVGA ELITE member (which started on July 16th, little late on getting this email out EVGA) Figured I would look around at some stuff. Tossed an item into cart, went to pay for it and I now see EVGA is charging a sales tax at checkout. When did this start?
Since you are the person who started this thread more than 2 years ago, I would expect you to be aware.
See my above comment as I don't always get charged a sales tax at time of checkout. Now that I'm thinking about it I made two purchases over the weekend, one at Performance PCs and one at PrimoChill's websites, neither charged me a sales tax at checkout. So no I don't know how it works and I was asking when EVGA started to charge a sales tax at checkout. Maybe you could add some information to the topic instead of a spiteful comment?
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 18:59:45
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Since I don't work for EVGA, there is no way for me to know when they started charging sales tax. All I know is that it is a matter of law. If your state has a sales tax, you are legally required to pay sales tax either way, so why do you care? Isn't it nice that EVGA takes care of it for you? As for the Amazon thing, I imagine that you purchased from a third party; but I have no way of knowing. Either your state has not yet mandated it, or you purchased from a third party who wasn't required to comply based on the size of its business or something, or it downright failed to comply. Ditto for Performance PCs and Primochill and Hims and Manscaped and anyone else you buy from. No matter the reason, you are legally required to pay the tax. So be glad that EVGA has your back. I don't know where you live. I am not a lawyer. I don't work for EVGA. I don't have any answers. All I know is that this was a long time coming, and you definitely knew that it was coming.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 19:16:10
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Since I don't work for EVGA, there is no way for me to know when they started charging sales tax. All I know is that it is a matter of law.
If your state has a sales tax, you are legally required to pay sales tax either way, so why do you care? Isn't it nice that EVGA takes care of it for you?
As for the Amazon thing, I imagine that you purchased from a third party, but have no way of knowing. Either your state has not yet mandated it, or you purchased from a third party who wasn't required to comply or failed to comply. No matter the reason, you are legally required to pay the tax.
Since you don't work for EVGA nor do you know the answer, maybe refrain from commenting? No I don't need EVGA taking care of me, I can take care of myself. Purchase from EVGA, sales tax included.  Purchase from Newegg, no sales tax.  
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/28 19:21:23
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Cool. So? Click the "?" next to "Tax" on Newegg.
States we charge sales tax in
Sales tax and tax exemption
Within the United States, Newegg.com charges tax on orders shipping to a number of states where Newegg is required to collect tax. Remember, even if Newegg does not collect state sales tax, you are required to pay it when you file your state taxes. If you are a tax-exempt organization or reseller, you can apply here for tax exemption on your Newegg.com orders.
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Do you live in one of the states on the list? Did you at some point file for tax exempt status at Newegg? I don't know where you live. I am not a lawyer. I don't work for EVGA. I don't have any answers. All I know is that this was a long time coming, and you definitely knew that it was coming. The tax is here.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/29 02:52:11
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Cool. So? Click the "?" next to "Tax" on Newegg.
States we charge sales tax in
Sales tax and tax exemption
Within the United States, Newegg.com charges tax on orders shipping to a number of states where Newegg is required to collect tax. Remember, even if Newegg does not collect state sales tax, you are required to pay it when you file your state taxes. If you are a tax-exempt organization or reseller, you can apply here for tax exemption on your Newegg.com orders.
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Do you live in one of the states on the list? Did you at some point file for tax exempt status at Newegg?
I don't know where you live. I am not a lawyer. I don't work for EVGA. I don't have any answers. All I know is that this was a long time coming, and you definitely knew that it was coming.
The tax is here.
Newegg's home office is located in Commiefornia, just like EVGA is. The State I live in is not on Newegg's required list of States to collect tax from. Why is EVGA charging me a sales tax at checkout and when did it start? Again, I do not need EVGA "taking care of me", I'm a grown man.and I can manage my fiances and taxes myself.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/29 03:03:11
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Newegg's home office is located in Commiefornia, just like EVGA is. The State I live in is not on Newegg's required list of States to collect tax from. Why is EVGA charging me a sales tax at checkout and when did it start? Again, I do not need EVGA "taking care of me", I'm a grown man.and I can manage my fiances and taxes myself.
Because EVGA chooses to obey the law as they operate in all 50 states. You no longer need to have a physical presence to have nexus in a given state. Newegg usually charges sales tax too, possibly you got it through a 3rd party selling on Newegg that doesn't give a crap. Regardless, what exactly do you hope to achieve here? Do you think EVGA are going to refund your sales tax? Do you even realize that sales tax is NOT money that goes to the seller, it is money they collect on behalf of the state the item was sold to, so if you want to be angry, be angry at your state for charging sales tax.. sheesh.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/29 03:45:19
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Newegg's home office is located in Commiefornia, just like EVGA is. The State I live in is not on Newegg's required list of States to collect tax from. Why is EVGA charging me a sales tax at checkout and when did it start? Again, I do not need EVGA "taking care of me", I'm a grown man.and I can manage my fiances and taxes myself.
Because EVGA chooses to obey the law as they operate in all 50 states. You no longer need to have a physical presence to have nexus in a given state. Newegg usually charges sales tax too, possibly you got it through a 3rd party selling on Newegg that doesn't give a crap. Regardless, what exactly do you hope to achieve here? Do you think EVGA are going to refund your sales tax? Do you even realize that sales tax is NOT money that goes to the seller, it is money they collect on behalf of the state the item was sold to, so if you want to be angry, be angry at your state for charging sales tax.. sheesh.
I never buy from 3rd party sellers on Newegg and the card shown is sold and shipped by Newegg. Maybe you missed this part, I clicked the States that Newegg is required to collect sales tax on, which would be the same for EVGA, both are located in Commiefornia and I DO NOT live in any of the States listed. Newegg is following the law, EVGA is not.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
2020/07/29 03:46:07
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As an Amazon seller "Marketplace Facilitator tax" is out of my control. When I sell something on Amazon they("amazon") collect the tax and pay the corresponding state on my behalf, while you may pay sales tax for my item, I never see the money, all I get is my sales price minus amazon fees. Most states are like this now, which honestly for us sellers is so much easier as we don't have to deal with it. Depending on your state EVGA may just be following the law. Here is a website that shows Marketplace facilitator tax by state. https://blog.taxjar.com/marketplace-facilitator-explained/
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
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Newegg's home office is located in Commiefornia, just like EVGA is. The State I live in is not on Newegg's required list of States to collect tax from. Why is EVGA charging me a sales tax at checkout and when did it start? Again, I do not need EVGA "taking care of me", I'm a grown man.and I can manage my fiances and taxes myself.
Because EVGA chooses to obey the law as they operate in all 50 states. You no longer need to have a physical presence to have nexus in a given state. Newegg usually charges sales tax too, possibly you got it through a 3rd party selling on Newegg that doesn't give a crap. Regardless, what exactly do you hope to achieve here? Do you think EVGA are going to refund your sales tax? Do you even realize that sales tax is NOT money that goes to the seller, it is money they collect on behalf of the state the item was sold to, so if you want to be angry, be angry at your state for charging sales tax.. sheesh.
I never buy from 3rd party sellers on Newegg and the card shown is sold and shipped by Newegg. Maybe you missed this part, I clicked the States that Newegg is required to collect sales tax on, which would be the same for EVGA, both are located in Commiefornia and I DO NOT live in any of the States listed. Newegg is following the law, EVGA is not.
Which state do you live in? It doesn't matter where the company is located, it matters where it is shipped.
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Re: States can now force online retailers to collect sales tax.
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Newegg's home office is located in Commiefornia, just like EVGA is. The State I live in is not on Newegg's required list of States to collect tax from. Why is EVGA charging me a sales tax at checkout and when did it start? Again, I do not need EVGA "taking care of me", I'm a grown man.and I can manage my fiances and taxes myself.
Because EVGA chooses to obey the law as they operate in all 50 states. You no longer need to have a physical presence to have nexus in a given state. Newegg usually charges sales tax too, possibly you got it through a 3rd party selling on Newegg that doesn't give a crap. Regardless, what exactly do you hope to achieve here? Do you think EVGA are going to refund your sales tax? Do you even realize that sales tax is NOT money that goes to the seller, it is money they collect on behalf of the state the item was sold to, so if you want to be angry, be angry at your state for charging sales tax.. sheesh.
I never buy from 3rd party sellers on Newegg and the card shown is sold and shipped by Newegg. Maybe you missed this part, I clicked the States that Newegg is required to collect sales tax on, which would be the same for EVGA, both are located in Commiefornia and I DO NOT live in any of the States listed. Newegg is following the law, EVGA is not.
Props for not buying 3rd party - wise move, I missed that. Newegg is following the sales tax laws *where they legally have to*. EVGA is following the sales tax laws of *all* states that have sales tax because they should - it's certainly not against the law to collect duly owed sales tax lol, whether they legally have to collect it or not - you still owe it. Eventually it will be a legal requirement for all states anyway. More and more states are adding themselves to that list because clearly it is a huge source of tax revenue, but more importantly for your situation legally you should be paying it regardless, whether the retailer remits it for you, or you remit it yourself to your state tax authority. That is a legal requirement for you in your state, you're just lucky your state doesn't presently enforce it. What you probably don't realize is that many banks and larger online retailers still report the transactions in many states, so most of these states have the ability to make you pay the sales tax you owe, but again, presently do not enforce it. Just don't be surprised one year when you suddenly get a huge tax bill for unpaid sales tax... Either way, EVGA has not done anything wrong, they are doing what they should do as a responsible business. Heck, it may just be the billing company EVGA uses does not give them the option to 'opt out' of adding sales tax for certain states. Regardless, you still owe it, that's the bottom line.
post edited by Nereus - 2020/07/29 04:22:46
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