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2020/01/26 18:56:33 (permalink)
Hi!

So recently I have started having issues with games on my rig. Basically, whenever I play something a bit more intensive (eg. Overwatch on high settings, AC: Odyssey, Darksiders Genesis (?) ) my computer will either crash the game to a black screen with audio or no audio at all or restart completely.
I have kept an eye on temps, my aircooled 2700x (No OC) sits at most at 65C under very heavy load.
My GPU can get pretty hot (75-80 C) but as far as I've researched it's not too bad for an aircooled 2080ti.

Things I have tried so far:

Reinstalling Windows (this copy is about 10 days old)

Reinstalling GPU drivers with DDU in safe mode

Running games off a SSD instead of a HDD (someone suggested it might be a loading time issue).

Adding extra fans to my system (currently 7 fans configured as 5x intake and 2 as exhaust).

A plethora of other fixes and tips suggested of reddit, LTT, TH etc including fiddling with power settings and plans, disconnecting my secondary monitor and so on.

Now I've had an EVGA 750w G PSU fail on me last year and I eventually bought a Corsair HX850i in the month I was waiting on the RMA for the PSU.

The PSU is literally the only component I haven't swapped so everything seems to point at that, I find it hard to believe that I am THAT unlucky to have TWO PSUs from "reputable" manufacturers fail on within the space of one year but I guess stranger things have happened.

So what do you guys think? Any suggestions?

Specs:

Mobo: Asus Crosshair VII HERO (WIFI)

Ryzen 2700x (no oc) on Noctua NH D15

TridentZ 16GB RBG RAM, 3466Mhz DOCP

EVGA 2080ti XC (no oc)

OS on Samsung Evo 970 M.2 500GB SSD; Games running off a Samsung Evo 860 1TB; 2 TB WD Black as extra storage.

PSU: Corsair HX850i

3x Noctua 120mm iPPC 2000 fans, 3x Corsair ML120, 1x Noctua Chromax 140mm

Case: Fractal Design R6
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/26 20:35:15 (permalink)
    That seems to next thing to try before RMA

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 00:20:08 (permalink)
    You could try to repaste the unit with higher grade thermal compound. Does not void the warranty, but in my experience, does help to a certain degree. If you can, post your system photos as sometimes poor airflow can cause a rise in temps.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 03:48:13 (permalink)
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    You could try to repaste the unit with higher grade thermal compound. Does not void the warranty, but in my experience, does help to a certain degree. If you can, post your system photos as sometimes poor airflow can cause a rise in temps.
    So you think thermals are at play here? I keep hearing conflicting opinions so I am a bit at a loss. Will post photos later when I've arrived home.
    Thanks for the reply!
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 04:18:49 (permalink)
    Additional info:

    Things I have tried (some again) in the meantime:
    A plethora of benchmarking/stress test tools:

    Furmark, Heaven, Valley, Prime95, Memtest86, 3DMark Fire Strike and Time Spy, Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool.

    Under extreme synthetic load (tried the 4K bechmarks and stress tests) the highest I've seen is 67C on the CPU and 84C on the GPU.
    I ran Time Spy and Heaven for 3 hours each with no glitches, crashes or any issues.
    I read somewhere that certain services like Discord or Logitech Hub might make the problem worse by crashing the Nvidia drivers...I will have to test for these as well.
    I will try the new Nvidia drivers tonight after a DDU cleanup of the old ones.
    Someone said I need a 1600W PSU? Like, I don't feel my system draws that much but idk, what do you guys think?
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 04:19:04 (permalink)
    What motherboard are you using? Did I miss it? Have you tried updating the
    BIOS on it?
     
    Believe it or not it can affect things...some bios don't have voltages set right or
    something screwy is in them in other ways.
     
     

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 04:27:25 (permalink)
    transdogmifier
    What motherboard are you using? Did I miss it? Have you tried updating the
    BIOS on it?
     
    Believe it or not it can affect things...some bios don't have voltages set right or
    something screwy is in them in other ways.
     
     
    Oh, my bad I forgot to mention it. Asus Crosshair VII Hero (Wifi). I have updated to the latest BIOS (3004).
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 06:33:55 (permalink)
    Everything you have done and have seem fine .
    Need to try GPU in another computer to see if you get the same problems.
    Don't think your GPU paste is at fault .
    Something more sinister.
    One other thing , asus boards are not that good dealing with fast ram and a ram fault will run you around in circles.
    Not saying it's ram BTW.
    Does your board show Q Codes ?
    post edited by spit051261 - 2020/01/27 06:46:36

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 06:53:23 (permalink)
    spit051261
    Everything you have done and have seem fine .
    Need to try GPU in another computer to see if you get the same problems.
    Don't think your GPU paste is at fault .
    Something more sinister.
    One other thing , asus boards are not that good dealing with fast ram and a ram fault will run you around in circles.
    Not saying it's ram BTW.
    Does your board show Q Codes ?

    Well, I do have another computer but it's a very old AMD Phenom X4 that I've converted in a family media server of sorts (I can still play 4K video and browse, maybe some old school gaming too) that's got a 970 in it. My PSU return is in it so 750w let's hope it's enough.
    I have tried fiddling with RAM before and Memtest seemed fine. I will try to drop it to 3200Mhz to match Ryzen's IF and see if that improves stability.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 12:38:07 (permalink)
    What EXACTLY is your ram. The QVL for your MB/Processor is very limited and 3466mhz is tough to get stable.  May need to down clock it to 3200 or 3000.
     
    Also recommend checking your TIM, your temps seem a bit hot.  You may have a hot spot degrading the chip.
     
    I may have missed it but you obviously have two separate 8-pin PSU cables to the GPU?
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/01/27 12:40:36
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 12:46:32 (permalink)
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    Additional info:

    Things I have tried (some again) in the meantime:
    A plethora of benchmarking/stress test tools:

    Furmark, Heaven, Valley, Prime95, Memtest86, 3DMark Fire Strike and Time Spy, Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool.

    Under extreme synthetic load (tried the 4K bechmarks and stress tests) the highest I've seen is 67C on the CPU and 84C on the GPU.
    I ran Time Spy and Heaven for 3 hours each with no glitches, crashes or any issues.
    I read somewhere that certain services like Discord or Logitech Hub might make the problem worse by crashing the Nvidia drivers...I will have to test for these as well.
    I will try the new Nvidia drivers tonight after a DDU cleanup of the old ones.
    Someone said I need a 1600W PSU? Like, I don't feel my system draws that much but idk, what do you guys think?



    My 2080 Ti XC Gaming did 56C stable in Unigine Heaven at 100% power, max fans in 20C air conditioned room.  If you're breaking 70C in Unigine Heaven at 100% power you have either a very hot room, not enough fan speed or BAD TIM.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/01/28 20:12:17
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 12:53:38 (permalink)
    kevinc313
    What EXACTLY is your ram. The QVL for your MB/Processor is very limited and 3466mhz is tough to get stable.  May need to down clock it to 3200 or 3000.
     
    Also recommend checking your TIM, your temps seem a bit hot.  You may have a hot spot degrading the chip.
     
    I may have missed it but you obviously have two separate 8-pin PSU cables to the GPU?

    RAM is G.Skill TridentZ (F4-3466C16D-16GTZR)
    That's my plan for when I get home: clock down to 3200Mhz and maybe get a 1:1 with Ryzen's Infinity Fabric.
    You mean the TIM on the GPU? I've never taken apart a GPU before and I am reluctant to start with a £1000 one but needs must I guess. I will try it as a last resort sort of thing.
    Yep, GPU has two separate 8-pin cables running off different rails.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 12:56:06 (permalink)
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    Additional info:

    Things I have tried (some again) in the meantime:
    A plethora of benchmarking/stress test tools:

    Furmark, Heaven, Valley, Prime95, Memtest86, 3DMark Fire Strike and Time Spy, Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool.

    Under extreme synthetic load (tried the 4K bechmarks and stress tests) the highest I've seen is 67C on the CPU and 84C on the GPU.
    I ran Time Spy and Heaven for 3 hours each with no glitches, crashes or any issues.
    I read somewhere that certain services like Discord or Logitech Hub might make the problem worse by crashing the Nvidia drivers...I will have to test for these as well.
    I will try the new Nvidia drivers tonight after a DDU cleanup of the old ones.
    Someone said I need a 1600W PSU? Like, I don't feel my system draws that much but idk, what do you guys think?



    My 2080 Ti XC Gaming did 56C stable in Unigine Heaven with at 100% power, max fans in 20C air conditioned room.  If you're breaking 70C in Unigine Heaven at 100% power you have either a very hot room, not enough fan speed or BAD TIM.

    Hmm, my room sits around 21-22 C but tbh the Define R6 kinda sucks for thermals. On the other hand, the card has been sitting at those temps pretty much since I've had it so...idk
    Please bear in mind that mine is an XC (a.k.a two fans) not an XC Gaming. Idk if that make a any difference.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 13:19:10 (permalink)
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    kevinc313
    What EXACTLY is your ram. The QVL for your MB/Processor is very limited and 3466mhz is tough to get stable.  May need to down clock it to 3200 or 3000.
     
    Also recommend checking your TIM, your temps seem a bit hot.  You may have a hot spot degrading the chip.
     
    I may have missed it but you obviously have two separate 8-pin PSU cables to the GPU?

    RAM is G.Skill TridentZ (F4-3466C16D-16GTZR)
    That's my plan for when I get home: clock down to 3200Mhz and maybe get a 1:1 with Ryzen's Infinity Fabric.
    You mean the TIM on the GPU? I've never taken apart a GPU before and I am reluctant to start with a £1000 one but needs must I guess. I will try it as a last resort sort of thing.
    Yep, GPU has two separate 8-pin cables running off different rails.



    Yeah that ram isn't on the G.Skill QVL for your MB and in fact has no AMD boards QVL'd for it.  The ASUS MB QVL has a F4-3466C16D-16GSXW listed with different timings and doesn't actually exist.  Definitely clock down, like 3000mhz with the XMP timings and voltages, or maybe 3200 with increased voltages.  Your PC might boot and do OK at light load but crash when you load it up.
     
    Checking the TIM isn't hard.  Just follow the directions for the hybrid kit about how to take apart the card.  You want zero bare spots, you're far better off having 100% paste coverage and a bit extra paste.  Spread the existing TIM flat with a straight plastic edge and add a rice sized dot, or re-apply with your pattern of choice at least pea size.  It's a bit annoying but really should be checked if things are kinda hot and otherwise setup well.
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/400-HY-1384-B1.pdf
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/01/27 14:00:11
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 13:45:15 (permalink)
    If your ram is not set up right , your pc will just crash for what seems like no reason and you could be doing anything at the time.
    Have the same with my 4400 and have to take it down to 4200 with XMP to stop crashes.
    My bios also likes to change the voltage for no apparent reason which doesn't help.
    Ram faults are not good .
    Lucky my board shows Q Codes and they always end in 5 which is ram related .

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 14:02:27 (permalink)
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    If your ram is not set up right , your pc will just crash for what seems like no reason and you could be doing anything at the time.
    Have the same with my 4400 and have to take it down to 4200 with XMP to stop crashes.
    My bios also likes to change the voltage for no apparent reason which doesn't help.
    Ram faults are not good .
    Lucky my board shows Q Codes and they always end in 5 which is ram related .



    How often are you getting crashes?  
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/27 14:16:08 (permalink)
    Might be fine for a while then crash
    Took it down to 4200 and now no crashes
    Asus board max supported ram is 4400 apparently but the bios does strange things at that speed .

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 17:48:29 (permalink)
    Right so after a few rounds of testing...it seems my system has become more stable when I've used one of the pre-loaded presets in my BIOS menu (Stilt's Fast 3200Mhz) which means I am now running RAM at lower frequency BUT CL's dropped from 18 to 16 (or is it 15? I forgot, I am tired...).
    Thank you a million times to each and every one of you guys that replied and helped me diagnose this!

    Now the question still remains: should I repaste my GPU? (Temps are still in the 80s...).
    I've tried finding a teardown but no luck. Also, I've got some Kryonaut that I bought and ended up not using (still had some MX5 left so I figured I'd use that before cracking open the Kryonaut).
    Would it be suitable? I read it cooks quite easily and you have to do this dance again every 4 months or so.

    If not, what would you guys reccomend?
    I've got Friday off so if I'm gonna do it might as well order stuff off Amazon and do it then.
    Kinda scared tbh, never tried something like this before but if it means lower temps...
    Any further advice is thoroughly appreciated!
    post edited by RaevThaonai - 2020/01/28 17:59:12
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 17:50:10 (permalink)
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    Might be fine for a while then crash
    Took it down to 4200 and now no crashes
    Asus board max supported ram is 4400 apparently but the bios does strange things at that speed .

    Thanks for the suggestion! So far, so good. 3200Mhz seems to work far better, even if the RAM is not on the QVL (I could have sworn I've checked this when getting it...maybe I just got bamboozled by the part numbers...)
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 17:57:43 (permalink)
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    spit051261
    Might be fine for a while then crash
    Took it down to 4200 and now no crashes
    Asus board max supported ram is 4400 apparently but the bios does strange things at that speed .

    Thanks for the suggestion! So far, so good. 3200Mhz seems to work far better, even if the RAM is not on the QVL (I could have sworn I've checked this when getting it...maybe I just got bamboozled by the part numbers...)

    Nice one.
    There won't be a great deal of difference dropping it down a bit .
    GPU is sweet then ?
    post edited by spit051261 - 2020/01/28 18:02:47

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:05:10 (permalink)
    Unfortunately the GPU still sits in the lower 80s...
    I haven't had a crash since the RAM tweak but I think I might need to try and repaste the GPU.
    I've got some Kryonaut, do you think that would be suitable? If not, which paste. I'm off this Friday and if I need to get it done, might as well order stuff off Amazon.
    Also, can you reuse the thermal pads or do I have to buy a set of those as well?
    Sorry, I've no idea how this works
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:08:07 (permalink)
    Re paste sounds good .
    One of the main men will be along shortly to answer that one .

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:11:14 (permalink)
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    Re paste sounds good .
    One of the main men will be along shortly to answer that one .

    Thanks for all the patience, man!
    Sorry I'm asking all the questions but this is my first build so there's plenty of stuff that I need to learn.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:11:45 (permalink)
    Reusing the thermal pads is fine.
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:17:53 (permalink)
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    Re paste sounds good .
    One of the main men will be along shortly to answer that one .

    Thanks for all the patience, man!
    Sorry I'm asking all the questions but this is my first build so there's plenty of stuff that I need to learn.

    Everyone is still learning and the only stupid question is the one that hasn't been asked so ask a way.

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:38:01 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately the GPU still sits in the lower 80s...
    I haven't had a crash since the RAM tweak but I think I might need to try and repaste the GPU.
    I've got some Kryonaut, do you think that would be suitable? If not, which paste. I'm off this Friday and if I need to get it done, might as well order stuff off Amazon.
    Also, can you reuse the thermal pads or do I have to buy a set of those as well?
    Sorry, I've no idea how this works



    Either paste is fine but if the MX-4 is more than a couple years old I'd say use the new stuff just to be safe.  Use the hybrid directions I posted above to remove the cooler, I'll repost them below.  Either spread the paste flat plus a rice size dot, or use an X pattern, or a good fat pea sized dot.
     
    Checking the TIM isn't hard.  Just follow the directions for the hybrid kit about how to take apart the card.  You want zero bare spots, you're far better off having 100% paste coverage and a bit extra paste.  Spread the existing TIM flat with a straight plastic edge and add a rice sized dot, or re-apply with your pattern of choice at least pea size.  It's a bit annoying but really should be checked if things are kinda hot and otherwise setup well.
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/400-HY-1384-B1.pdf

     
    Hard to say on the ram, 3200CL16 on hynix CJR (likely your ram chips) is pretty typical, but keep an eye on it under load and watch out for random WHEA errors.  The F4-3200C16D-16GTZR kit does appear on the MB QVL, that's just a shade down in speed from your actual kit, so if you're running similar timings with 1.35V you should be good to go.
     
    https://dlcdnets.asus.com...eration-Processors.pdf
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/28 18:40:41 (permalink)
    I'm using hynix I know it doesn't play nice with my asus board at full speed.

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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/31 07:44:34 (permalink)
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    RaevThaonai
    Unfortunately the GPU still sits in the lower 80s...
    I haven't had a crash since the RAM tweak but I think I might need to try and repaste the GPU.
    I've got some Kryonaut, do you think that would be suitable? If not, which paste. I'm off this Friday and if I need to get it done, might as well order stuff off Amazon.
    Also, can you reuse the thermal pads or do I have to buy a set of those as well?
    Sorry, I've no idea how this works



    Either paste is fine but if the MX-4 is more than a couple years old I'd say use the new stuff just to be safe.  Use the hybrid directions I posted above to remove the cooler, I'll repost them below.  Either spread the paste flat plus a rice size dot, or use an X pattern, or a good fat pea sized dot.
     
    Checking the TIM isn't hard.  Just follow the directions for the hybrid kit about how to take apart the card.  You want zero bare spots, you're far better off having 100% paste coverage and a bit extra paste.  Spread the existing TIM flat with a straight plastic edge and add a rice sized dot, or re-apply with your pattern of choice at least pea size.  It's a bit annoying but really should be checked if things are kinda hot and otherwise setup well.


     
    Hard to say on the ram, 3200CL16 on hynix CJR (likely your ram chips) is pretty typical, but keep an eye on it under load and watch out for random WHEA errors.  The F4-3200C16D-16GTZR kit does appear on the MB QVL, that's just a shade down in speed from your actual kit, so if you're running similar timings with 1.35V you should be good to go.
     


    Well, I went ahead and did it...it was easier than I feared. Needless to say there were multiple spots uncovered by TIM and the one left was caked and dry. Some Kryonaut later, I reassembled everything with the only issue being the small black grill that goes over the fan connector (EVGA, guys, come on...) that didn't wanna go back into its place. Got it there eventually and put it all back together.
    Now the trouble is, when I turned on the PC it made this squeaky noise. At first I thought it was because I moved one of the case fans but I stopped them all by hand and the squeaking was still there.
    So I took out the GPU and booted again, the squeaking was gone.
    Now I'm afraid to put it back in because if there's something wrong with it I don't wanna make it worse.
    What should I do, guys?
    I should have known this won't go down as swimmingly as I thought it would.
    Also, I noticed a bit of what looks like glue on the heatpipes. I know I am being paranoid but...it's not fluid leaking from one of the heatpipes...is it?
    I took some photos of before and after but for some reason I cannot upload them? It gets stuck at 65% when uploading
    post edited by RaevThaonai - 2020/01/31 08:01:59
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/31 08:24:28 (permalink)
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    RaevThaonai
    Unfortunately the GPU still sits in the lower 80s...
    I haven't had a crash since the RAM tweak but I think I might need to try and repaste the GPU.
    I've got some Kryonaut, do you think that would be suitable? If not, which paste. I'm off this Friday and if I need to get it done, might as well order stuff off Amazon.
    Also, can you reuse the thermal pads or do I have to buy a set of those as well?
    Sorry, I've no idea how this works



    Either paste is fine but if the MX-4 is more than a couple years old I'd say use the new stuff just to be safe.  Use the hybrid directions I posted above to remove the cooler, I'll repost them below.  Either spread the paste flat plus a rice size dot, or use an X pattern, or a good fat pea sized dot.
     
    Checking the TIM isn't hard.  Just follow the directions for the hybrid kit about how to take apart the card.  You want zero bare spots, you're far better off having 100% paste coverage and a bit extra paste.  Spread the existing TIM flat with a straight plastic edge and add a rice sized dot, or re-apply with your pattern of choice at least pea size.  It's a bit annoying but really should be checked if things are kinda hot and otherwise setup well.


     
    Hard to say on the ram, 3200CL16 on hynix CJR (likely your ram chips) is pretty typical, but keep an eye on it under load and watch out for random WHEA errors.  The F4-3200C16D-16GTZR kit does appear on the MB QVL, that's just a shade down in speed from your actual kit, so if you're running similar timings with 1.35V you should be good to go.
     


    Well, I went ahead and did it...it was easier than I feared. Needless to say there were multiple spots uncovered by TIM and the one left was caked and dry. Some Kryonaut later, I reassembled everything with the only issue being the small black grill that goes over the fan connector (EVGA, guys, come on...) that didn't wanna go back into its place. Got it there eventually and put it all back together.
    Now the trouble is, when I turned on the PC it made this squeaky noise. At first I thought it was because I moved one of the case fans but I stopped them all by hand and the squeaking was still there.
    So I took out the GPU and booted again, the squeaking was gone.
    Now I'm afraid to put it back in because if there's something wrong with it I don't wanna make it worse.
    What should I do, guys?
    I should have known this won't go down as swimmingly as I thought it would.
    Also, I noticed a bit of what looks like glue on the heatpipes. I know I am being paranoid but...it's not fluid leaking from one of the heatpipes...is it?
    I took some photos of before and after but for some reason I cannot upload them? It gets stuck at 65% when uploading



    What kind of squeaking are we talking about here and when does it happen?  The two big noise makers on GPU's are fan rub (on cable or heatsink) and coil whine.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/01/31 08:26:34
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    Re: Should I RMA? 2020/01/31 08:30:34 (permalink)
    Well, I booted and it immediately started doing it. Hard to describe, I know it sounds funny but literally mouse? It's not very loud but definitely audible even with the case closed. Got into BIOS and inspected fans all by one and it kept making it.


    Wait, I can't even link a youtube video? WTH?

    This is obviously not my system but this sound very similar. I could try and record but I cannot upload here dor some reason also I don't want to damage it.
    I used a soft padded mat when I opened the card (kinda like a work mat but as big) and I wore an anti static band so I doubt it's electrical damage.
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