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So what is up with this? Yes I have read articles and such for this, but will EVGA plan on making extended warranty or releasing new thermal pads or making a guide for us to buy higher end m/wK thermal pads, because this launch is a disaster and I am thinking of just selling this 3090 XC3. Memory is 108C with many fans pointed and it and I have not even changed the thermal paste on the GPU die because of how hot the memory runs stock. THE longevity of these cards will not last pass the 3 year warranty, these cards will start to die after 4 years which leaves most owners screwed... Why is no on talking about how the warranty of 3 years + over heating memory (sometimes 110C) and life span will be ending right when warranty ends. What I want from this is either a fix thermal pads wise that will lower temps, EVGA to offer trade ins for new cards or extended 5 year warranty at least to know if anything goes wrong they will un solder the memory that is bad in their repair center in Taiwan. This is beyond a disaster launch. Coming from an EVGA 1080 TI owner with 4 different 1080 TIs dying and ran those under 70C all the time. Imagine what this will lead to and leaving consumers with a ticking time bomb.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 9:20 PM
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I have been buying the extended warranty on the more expensive cards 5 yr & 10 extended warrant is always an option on new cards EVGA Extended Warranty Buying the extending warrant of a +$500 card up to 5 yr for $30 is cheap ... & only $60 for 10 years ... If the reading is correct & not a sensor or software error ... that is hot 108C
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 9:25 PM
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Appreciate the URL. Useful. Though EVGA should out of pocket offer these since they are clearly running these really hot... Just because it is under TJ max, does not mean it is safe for them to do long term.  Hoping others will bump this and actually voice their concern, it is not safe running memory this hot.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 9:34 PM
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gddr6x runs very hot, that is probably bad application of the thermal pads. You can open it up and replace it. If you aren't confortable with that just underclock the vram to a temp you fell confortable with. You can also try to put a fan directly over the card, i know it's a (removed) solution for such an high end product but it may solve your problem language removed by Cool GTX
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 9:38 PM
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Appreciate the URL. Useful. Though EVGA should out of pocket offer these since they are clearly running these really hot... Just because it is under TJ max, does not mean it is safe for them to do long term. Hoping others will bump this and actually voice their concern, it is not safe running memory this hot.
See this thread  https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3241067 probably not the actual Temp
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 10:20 PM
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If that's the memory junc temp then it's probably accurate.
If its hitting 108C while gaming then likely a thermal pad problem. If you're mining then you need to do one or more of the fixes people have been doing. Heatsink on the backplate, different thermal pads, waterblock, etc...
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 10:29 PM
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Cool GTXBuying the extending warrant of a +$500 card up to 5 yr for $30 is cheap ... & only $60 for 10 years ... No, 3 years of warranty already included! Options is: to buy +2 years of warranty for $30, or to buy +7 years of warranty for $60.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 10:49 PM
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Cool GTXBuying the extending warrant of a +$500 card up to 5 yr for $30 is cheap ... & only $60 for 10 years ... No, 3 years of warranty already included! Options is: to buy +2 years of warranty for $30, or to buy +7 years of warranty for $60.
 semantics .. I said up to 5 yr ... the 2 yr extra is implied - as is the additional 7 yr = 10 yr but then again - that is why I included the link earlier .... no need to spell it out
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 10:57 PM
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Cool GTX semantics .. I said up to 5 yr ... the 2 yr extra is implied - as is the additional 7 yr = 10 yr
but then again - that is why I included the link earlier .... no need to spell it out Exactly! It is all about how that is sounds: 5yr - $30, 10yr - $60. $6 per year, right? Wrong!+2yr - $30, +7yr - $60, $15 per year and $8.6 per year. Now to buy " 10 years warranty" over " 5 year warranty" looks like much better choice... if you plan to hold graphics card so long of course 
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 11:42 PM
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Cool GTX semantics .. I said up to 5 yr ... the 2 yr extra is implied - as is the additional 7 yr = 10 yr
but then again - that is why I included the link earlier .... no need to spell it out Exactly! It is all about how that is sounds: 5yr - $30, 10yr - $60. $6 per year, right? Wrong!
+2yr - $30, +7yr - $60, $15 per year and $8.6 per year. Now to buy "10 years warranty" over "5 year warranty" looks like much better choice... if you plan to hold graphics card so long of course
Thank you mr wizard ... you can stop now --> Lets not derail the thread OP mentioned wanting 5 yr warranty / I simply mentioned it was already an option
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Monday, March 15, 2021 11:48 PM
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Yea. I'll be extending the warrenty on mine. Day 1 rma for me.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:15 PM
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3090 having memory on the back is kind of new thing and I think many AIBs didn't expect it to be this much of an issue. I mean you're just relying on a backplate to cool the rear modules while the front side of the card has a fat heatsink.
Although you shouldn't have to modify your card in anyway to achieve safe temps, I think thermal pad replacement and adding heatsinks to the backplate is very much worth your time.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:20 PM
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I have been buying the extended warranty on the more expensive cards 5 yr & 10 extended warrant is always an option on new cards
Buying the extending warrant of a +$500 card up to 5 yr for $30 is cheap ... & only $60 for 10 years ...
If the reading is correct & not a sensor or software error ... that is hot 108C
Honesty I didn't even know they offered an extended warranty. Thanks for this - I'll be paying for that when I get a new card (hopefully the 3898 3080 Hybrid). Started with EVGA when the 4xx series was around and have been using their cards exclusively since then.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:58 PM
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I took the 5 year warranty on my 3090 KPE.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:35 AM
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Running 110C and peaked 112C.
This launch is a disaster....
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:49 AM
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I thought the evga ones ran cooler? My 3090 FE peaks at 100c now with a 120 mm taped on the back permanently..
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:18 AM
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Running 110C and peaked 112C.
This launch is a disaster....
What's your average memory temp? Many folks are reporting spikes which are probably sensor errors.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:48 PM
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106AVG, 110C at peak. I am worried about life span more than anything.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:58 PM
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The memory will throttle before any lasting damage occurs, technically speaking it's not running out of spec, and you could easily make it run cooler with a little effort - and as others have pointed out, the extended warranty exists for a reason - so you can worry about the lifespan of your card less & enjoy using it.
Having said that, I've never seen memory temperatures this high, the XC3 cards have been something I've avoided for a long time because of their inferior cooling etc. and lack of iCX temperature sensors.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:29 PM
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The memory will throttle before any lasting damage occurs, technically speaking it's not running out of spec, and you could easily make it run cooler with a little effort - and as others have pointed out, the extended warranty exists for a reason - so you can worry about the lifespan of your card less & enjoy using it.
Having said that, I've never seen memory temperatures this high, the XC3 cards have been something I've avoided for a long time because of their inferior cooling etc. and lack of iCX temperature sensors.
I've noticed miners seeing memory temps like these...
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:38 PM
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The memory will throttle before any lasting damage occurs, technically speaking it's not running out of spec, and you could easily make it run cooler with a little effort - and as others have pointed out, the extended warranty exists for a reason - so you can worry about the lifespan of your card less & enjoy using it.
Having said that, I've never seen memory temperatures this high, the XC3 cards have been something I've avoided for a long time because of their inferior cooling etc. and lack of iCX temperature sensors.
I've noticed miners seeing memory temps like these...
That'd be because mining is insanely intensive on memory, and again, you can still drop temps even in that use case, with better cooling - the problem is the backplate-side VRAM is basically baking itself on most of these cards, especially under very heavy or mining loads, getting any active cooling & heatsinks on those helps, a lot, as I've shown in my thread about it. Dropping 15C off temps that are already low in my case, on memory temps, is a pretty big deal - I could probably get even lower if I were to redo the face-side pads etc, but I haven't bothered yet.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:53 PM
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The memory will throttle before any lasting damage occurs, technically speaking it's not running out of spec, and you could easily make it run cooler with a little effort - and as others have pointed out, the extended warranty exists for a reason - so you can worry about the lifespan of your card less & enjoy using it.
Having said that, I've never seen memory temperatures this high, the XC3 cards have been something I've avoided for a long time because of their inferior cooling etc. and lack of iCX temperature sensors.
I've noticed miners seeing memory temps like these...
That'd be because mining is insanely intensive on memory, and again, you can still drop temps even in that use case, with better cooling - the problem is the backplate-side VRAM is basically baking itself on most of these cards, especially under very heavy or mining loads, getting any active cooling & heatsinks on those helps, a lot, as I've shown in my thread about it. Dropping 15C off temps that are already low in my case, on memory temps, is a pretty big deal - I could probably get even lower if I were to redo the face-side pads etc, but I haven't bothered yet.
Of course, i was just responding to you saying, "I've never seen memory temperatures this high". And yes i completely agree with the vram on the back side. I actually have a bunch of copper heatsinks on mine as well and now i manage 72c mem junction during a cyberpunk session
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:55 PM
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Like I said disaster launch
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 0:11 PM
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Are you overclocking the memory? On the FE for me, if I put the fans to 80% with no mem OC, my temps are between 80-86c
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:59 AM
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I have a massive aluminum heatsink on the back of mine with some 80mm fans moving air over it and that keeps the temp at 92 degrees under heavy stress test benchmarking. Without the heatsink I've easily seen memory junction hit 108 - 110 degrees. That being said, regular gaming without the heatsink I might hit the mid-80s, with the heatsink, it stays around 68 - 70 degrees. If you have a spare wraith stealth cooler and some thermal pads, you can slap it on the back and it works just as well.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:26 AM
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Your jumping up and down temperatures are definitely based on faulty data readings.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:18 PM
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With the Optimus backplate I see about 74 junction temp while mining eth with the 3090. They just released preorders for the EK active backplate for the XC3. The thin backplates that all these 3090s are using is not adequate for memory intensive activities.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:18 PM
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That screenshot of GPUZ tells me he's mining. 106C with the core running at 1260mhz full load. Same as mine is running at right now except my ram temp is 80C.
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:28 PM
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That screenshot of GPUZ tells me he's mining. 106C with the core running at 1260mhz full load. Same as mine is running at right now except my ram temp is 80C.
Nope not mining. This was in shadow of the tomb raider. I used voltage curves to see if brining the power down can help memory.... Please do not assume and maybe ask?
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Re: RTX 3090 house fire memory
Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:32 PM
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Mining is honestly dumb, but I do not want to derail this thread or have it flood with miners debate. Just need EVGA to comment or for everyone to know these memory modules are over heating
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