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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/16 22:36:52 (permalink)
Well... I am not sure what I did on Post #750... but it is screwed...
 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/16 23:03:25 (permalink)
Have you tried to delete your photo in the post?  You have the option to edit you post.  That would be helpful.  

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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/16 23:15:29 (permalink)
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Have you tried to delete your photo in the post?  You have the option to edit you post.  That would be helpful.  


It just crashes the page... and yes I tried.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/19 19:10:10 (permalink)
Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/19 20:58:18 (permalink)
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Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?



I didn't. When I first installed the card on air, PX1 updated the BIOS. That was all I did.
 
I have flipped the OC switch on and off and the card works like a charm.
 
Just got my fans today, so a little tweak and hopefully that does it.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/19 21:26:11 (permalink)
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Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?



I didn't. When I first installed the card on air, PX1 updated the BIOS. That was all I did.
 
I have flipped the OC switch on and off and the card works like a charm.
 
Just got my fans today, so a little tweak and hopefully that does it.




Well the OC and Normal bios won't do anything for a waterblock cards since they just control the fans differently. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/21 09:41:31 (permalink)
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Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?



I didn't. When I first installed the card on air, PX1 updated the BIOS. That was all I did.
 
I have flipped the OC switch on and off and the card works like a charm.
 
Just got my fans today, so a little tweak and hopefully that does it.




Well the OC and Normal bios won't do anything for a waterblock cards since they just control the fans differently. 




Alrighty then... for some reason I thought it increased the power limit. Not that that is really necessary.
 
I have read about the different BIOS giving different power caps. It would be nice if those could be loaded and controlled by that switch. I do understand the switch on the card goes from hardware settings to software settings... yet unsure which is which.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/21 13:04:51 (permalink)
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Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?



I didn't. When I first installed the card on air, PX1 updated the BIOS. That was all I did.
 
I have flipped the OC switch on and off and the card works like a charm.
 
Just got my fans today, so a little tweak and hopefully that does it.




Well the OC and Normal bios won't do anything for a waterblock cards since they just control the fans differently. 




Alrighty then... for some reason I thought it increased the power limit. Not that that is really necessary.
 
I have read about the different BIOS giving different power caps. It would be nice if those could be loaded and controlled by that switch. I do understand the switch on the card goes from hardware settings to software settings... yet unsure which is which.


Some cards do some cards don't, it's different from vendor to vendor and even cards within a vendor.

This generation, it's just fan profiles, and a more aggressive fan profile gives higher boost clocks.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/21 13:52:06 (permalink)
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Hey to those that put a block on, do you guys flash the hydrocopper bios?



I didn't. When I first installed the card on air, PX1 updated the BIOS. That was all I did.
 
I have flipped the OC switch on and off and the card works like a charm.
 
Just got my fans today, so a little tweak and hopefully that does it.




Well the OC and Normal bios won't do anything for a waterblock cards since they just control the fans differently. 




Alrighty then... for some reason I thought it increased the power limit. Not that that is really necessary.
 
I have read about the different BIOS giving different power caps. It would be nice if those could be loaded and controlled by that switch. I do understand the switch on the card goes from hardware settings to software settings... yet unsure which is which.


Some cards do some cards don't, it's different from vendor to vendor and even cards within a vendor.

This generation, it's just fan profiles, and a more aggressive fan profile gives higher boost clocks.



Thanks for the clarification. I really appreciate it. So many little nuances and tweaks for a tweaker... :)
 
I am experiencing fan issues with my software that is truly disappointing. The so-called ASUS Fan Expert 4 program. It drops my fan speeds - for the rads and the pump - and then it heats up. I prefer to run the cool side, not run it up hot and then cool it. I need to rebuild tomorrow, so any suggestion on that front would be great!
 
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I just wish the software would hold the settings.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 09:48:22 (permalink)
Add me to the list. 3080ti and after installed EK WB with instructions its dead. Am wondering if the EK backplate caused to short and die
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 09:54:11 (permalink)
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Add me to the list. 3080ti and after installed EK WB with instructions its dead. Am wondering if the EK backplate caused to short and die




Are you using the revised standoffs? They replaced three standoffs with smaller diameter ones. 
 
https://imgur.com/a/qiGBxzE
 

 

 
In the last week, I have taken this card apart 3 times to experiment on mounting pressure and it didn't die. I have the new standoffs. 
 
Here is where the discussion about the standoffs: https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3212511&p=66 
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2021/08/26 09:56:52
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 09:58:30 (permalink)
No. I never received any new standoffs. Must be an old stocked kit. Where can I get the new standoffs. Also EVGA charged me 45 for non-approved thermal pads. I was bummed as there is no where I can buy EVGA thermal pads and reinstall it. Or maybe they sell.. Lol
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 10:10:03 (permalink)
Kiran,
Can I ask what thermal pads you did use?  $45 bucks just for thermal pads is a bit much for the limited amount that is used for the GPU.  From what I gathered, the EVGA stuff isn't the greatest and certainly is not the worst as we've seen a few reports from users sharing their past experience with other AIBs.  
 
You will need to contact EKWB for the standoffs.  They made a revision recently to a few of the post that mount the block to the gpu.  
 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 10:12:53 (permalink)
I used Arctic Silver and Thermaltake as I lost the EK supplied ones. I didnt think much because they asking 45 is a sign that they would approve my RMA. I was very scared if they deny the RMA because I opened to put a WB. I put back stock cooler and retained those expensive pads I had. 
 
P.S : I just opened a support ticket with EK to see if I had revised standoff and requested to send one if not.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 10:13:01 (permalink)
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No. I never received any new standoffs. Must be an old stocked kit. Where can I get the new standoffs. Also EVGA charged me 45 for non-approved thermal pads. I was bummed as there is no where I can buy EVGA thermal pads and reinstall it. Or maybe they sell.. Lol


One day before I am going to block mine and someone has an issue, doesn't make me nervous at all... The EKWB has three standoffs that need to be changed at the bottom of it. Go back some pages and the pictures should be there.

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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 10:13:16 (permalink)
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No. I never received any new standoffs. Must be an old stocked kit. Where can I get the new standoffs. Also EVGA charged me 45 for non-approved thermal pads. I was bummed as there is no where I can buy EVGA thermal pads and reinstall it. Or maybe they sell.. Lol




Take a picture of your EKWB block with the cold plate side first and post it here or PM it to me. I'll let you know if you have the old standoffs. 
 
If you have the old ones, go to EKWB and send them a photo and your invoice and ask them for the new standoffs. They will mail them to you. 
 
If you do have the new standoffs, it's possible you might have damaged your card when removing it from the original heatsink. Did you heat your card up like run it through several benchmarks or a stress test before you took it apart? 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 10:22:33 (permalink)
Here is the pic. I did not heat or run stress test. It came with some resistance but never had issues on WB. This is my 5th card to WB. But yes this was bit rough
 
P.S : The file uplaod just never finished 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:14:26 (permalink)
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Here is the pic. I did not heat or run stress test. It came with some resistance but never had issues on WB. This is my 5th card to WB. But yes this was bit rough
 
P.S : The file uplaod just never finished 




Yes, you have the old standoffs. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:21:34 (permalink)
KingEngineRevUp - Nice build... I like the 3 rad set up.
 
Is your Vertical GPU riser PCIe 3 or 4?
 
kiran1103
Thank you KingEngineRevUp. Hopefully I get a replacement card. Even if I get the new stanndoff it isnt inspiring anymore to try the WB. Maybe wait for a swap for HC version 




Kiran, you won't have a problem with the new standoffs. And, the WB is great! It is a shame you had to experience that, but with the new standoffs, you'll be golden.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:21:47 (permalink)
Thank you KingEngineRevUp. Hopefully I get a replacement card. Even if I get the new stanndoff it isnt inspiring anymore to try the WB. Maybe wait for a swap for HC version 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:28:03 (permalink)
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Nice build... I like the 3 rad set up.
 
Is your Vertical GPU riser PCIe 3 or 4?




It has a 4.0 riser cable. No way am I dealing without reseating it to update my motherboard BIOs. 
 
kiran1103
Thank you KingEngineRevUp. Hopefully I get a replacement card. Even if I get the new stanndoff it isnt inspiring anymore to try the WB. Maybe wait for a swap for HC version 


 
Just make sure you warm the card up. A lot of people aren't aware of how hard it is to get the card off if you don't. 
 

 
This is a comparison with the new standoffs. You should be fine with installing the WB with them. 
 

 
The new ones have a hex shape. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:31:57 (permalink)
Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 11:41:50 (permalink)
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 
 
 
 
With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 
 
 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 12:01:16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 
 

 
With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 
 
 


I have a question, what if I to use a Hydro copper block instead of the fans, would that cause any issues? Would the water block power get plugged in the same as older series?
I’m considering other water blocks Ek and alphacool. But seeing how many people are having issues with the EK block is make me concerned.


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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 12:13:41 (permalink)
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 
 

 
With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 
 
 


I have a question, what if I to use a Hydro copper block instead of the fans, would that cause any issues? Would the water block power get plugged in the same as older series?
I’m considering other water blocks Ek and alphacool. But seeing how many people are having issues with the EK block is make me concerned.



I'm not familiar with the hydro copper, if you're asking about the RGB, I believe it plugs into the 5v aRGB plug of the card. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 12:16:57 (permalink)
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 



With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 




I have a question, what if I to use a Hydro copper block instead of the fans, would that cause any issues? Would the water block power get plugged in the same as older series?
I’m considering other water blocks Ek and alphacool. But seeing how many people are having issues with the EK block is make me concerned.



I'm not familiar with the hydro copper, if you're asking about the RGB, I believe it plugs into the 5v aRGB plug of the card. 

Okay I think that sound right.
Does that apply for EK WB too? Or do I need to plug it in the MB?


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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 12:59:58 (permalink)
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 



With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 




I have a question, what if I to use a Hydro copper block instead of the fans, would that cause any issues? Would the water block power get plugged in the same as older series?
I’m considering other water blocks Ek and alphacool. But seeing how many people are having issues with the EK block is make me concerned.



I'm not familiar with the hydro copper, if you're asking about the RGB, I believe it plugs into the 5v aRGB plug of the card. 

Okay I think that sound right.
Does that apply for EK WB too? Or do I need to plug it in the MB?



It plugs into the motherboard. I plugged mine into my corsair stuff using adapters. Take a look at my gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/qiGBxzE
 
I have videos of it in action. 
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Thanks for the added clarity in the standoffs. So the issue is that previous standoffs were causing the board to short and die?




Well what I've heard on the grapevine, EVGA sent a model and board layout to EKWB, but some resistors were closer to the screw holes than EKWB expected. 



With the smaller standoffs, there is better clearance to avoid these components. Although in this photo from techpowerup, the components look far, some people's cards have the components a little closer. 




I have a question, what if I to use a Hydro copper block instead of the fans, would that cause any issues? Would the water block power get plugged in the same as older series?
I’m considering other water blocks Ek and alphacool. But seeing how many people are having issues with the EK block is make me concerned.



I'm not familiar with the hydro copper, if you're asking about the RGB, I believe it plugs into the 5v aRGB plug of the card. 

Okay I think that sound right.
Does that apply for EK WB too? Or do I need to plug it in the MB?



It plugs into the motherboard. I plugged mine into my corsair stuff using adapters. Take a look at my gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/qiGBxzE
 
I have videos of it in action. 

Nice that’s what I have, I have the Corsair commander pro and light pro. So where do you plug it in the commander pro? If that works than that’s exactly l what I’m looking for!


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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting 2021/08/26 14:17:43 (permalink)
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Nice that’s what I have, I have the Corsair commander pro and light pro. So where do you plug it in the commander pro? If that works than that’s exactly l what I’m looking for!



You will need to buy adapters to connect it to the lighting node pro. 
 
https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Adapter-Lighting-Commander-Included/dp/B08KGMZ9YT 
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Nice that’s what I have, I have the Corsair commander pro and light pro. So where do you plug it in the commander pro? If that works than that’s exactly l what I’m looking for!



You will need to buy adapters to connect it to the lighting node pro. 
 
https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Adapter-Lighting-Commander-Included/dp/B08KGMZ9YT 

Perfect thank you very much! That’s very helpful!!
Have a good evening!


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