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2018/10/14 23:56:43 (permalink)
EVGA, I really love your products. That was the reason I was waiting so long for my FTW3 card. You can discuss about if its a beauty or not but ok. What I can't understand is the really poor quality of the logo. It only is a thin (plastic?) plate glued to the frame. At unboxing one side the frame was a bit peeled off so I pushed it back. Now on day 3 I looked into my PC and both sides are peeled off. I think after one month the whole font will fall off.
 
It might be no big deal but if you remember that this is a 1000 EUR product I don't see the love I want to. There even isn't the FTW3 branded in because of cost reasons. I could live with that but if I have to push the plate back once a week that can't be the truth 
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 03:08:19 (permalink)
Mine does the same thing. Haven’t decided best way to fix it yet but thinking about just some good double stick tape.
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 03:33:53 (permalink)
Agree, with the cost of these things that should not happen.

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 03:58:44 (permalink)
I remember having a similar problem with my 300€ 1070 FTW ... after 2 years ...
I hope I'm lucky with my 2080ti since I have it in a glass-case mounted on my wall, it'll be very obvious.
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 04:14:45 (permalink)
Mine hasnt started peeling yet, but damn that makes me wonder about pulling it off anyways and cutting a custom vinyl sticker for that location.  
Honestly the logo is the only thing on the card that looks like (removed).  The light bleed from all of the edges, the uneven lighting of the letters, etc.  I'd be happy if it fell off and I stuck something over that area instead.  
 
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post edited by Cool GTX - 2018/10/15 07:13:40
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 04:37:20 (permalink)
By the way I hope that these LEDs are controllable and not 100% on, right? The 2080ti has a small "FTW3" text on the right corner which is always lighted with a white LED, I hate that since i leave my PC open at night and I had to cover it with a black tape, the corner is black anyway so the tape is not noticeable.
 
What about the 20-series FTW3 cards? Do they have any non-controllable LEDs?
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 04:44:45 (permalink)
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By the way I hope that these LEDs are controllable and not 100% on, right? The 2080ti has a small "FTW3" text on the right corner which is always lighted with a white LED, I hate that since i leave my PC open at night and I had to cover it with a black tape, the corner is black anyway so the tape is not noticeable.
 What about the 20-series FTW3 cards? Do they have any non-controllable LEDs?



I'm not infront of mine at the moment but from what I can tell, its just a group of LED's that illuminate the whole plastic shroud.  So if you turn them off or dim them, its all of them 
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 07:26:46 (permalink)
@ rv112


Registered your Card ?


Have you contacted EVGA directly ?   https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/

It could be either an issue with the surface preparation or the adhesive that is not performing correctly

If its the plastic:
 
The plastic would not only have to be clean of any contamination; sometimes plastic needs special treatment for adhesives to achieve a good bond.
 
The type of plastic used would determine the extra steps required before the adhesive would bond as desired




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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 10:00:47 (permalink)
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EVGA, I really love your products. That was the reason I was waiting so long for my FTW3 card. You can discuss about if its a beauty or not but ok. What I can't understand is the really poor quality of the logo. It only is a thin (plastic?) plate glued to the frame. At unboxing one side the frame was a bit peeled off so I pushed it back. Now on day 3 I looked into my PC and both sides are peeled off. I think after one month the whole font will fall off.
 
It might be no big deal but if you remember that this is a 1000 EUR product I don't see the love I want to. There even isn't the FTW3 branded in because of cost reasons. I could live with that but if I have to push the plate back once a week that can't be the truth 
 



Heat the strip with a blow drier and press it back on with some good pressure and hold for a few secs for it to cool. Should work. Heating up the adhesive so its sticky should work.

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 10:12:01 (permalink)
Quality of any EVGA product is very questionable and that comes from a person whom owns ton of EVGA GPU's and few M/B. Yes their support is decent but whether support is more important to U than quality???
I own 99% of Asus M/B lots of them and even thou their support is questionable, the quality of any of their product is Topnotch I have yet to experience any issue with their components (M/B, GPU's Routers) and that is performance and aesthetic wise. I prefer quality over support if there is only one to chose from.
 
Btw. 3M clear 2 sided 0.5mm tape will hold that in place permanently, yet, if you really needed that off  it will come off using something sharp to lift the corners first
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 12:07:11 (permalink)
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@ rv112


Registered your Card ?


Have you contacted EVGA directly ?   https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/

It could be either an issue with the surface preparation or the adhesive that is not performing correctly

If its the plastic:
 
The plastic would not only have to be clean of any contamination; sometimes plastic needs special treatment for adhesives to achieve a good bond.
 
The type of plastic used would determine the extra steps required before the adhesive would bond as desired




Surface Treatment of Materials for Adhesive Bonding
ISBN  978-0-323-26435-8


Yes the card is registered and has 10 years warranty. No I didn't contact. What would they tell me? That I have to RMA. Lol no. Then I fix it my own. But this quality has to become better for that price. You see that the whole cover is made as cheap as possible.
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/15 12:22:46 (permalink)
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@ rv112


Registered your Card ?


Have you contacted EVGA directly ?   https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/

It could be either an issue with the surface preparation or the adhesive that is not performing correctly

If its the plastic:
 
The plastic would not only have to be clean of any contamination; sometimes plastic needs special treatment for adhesives to achieve a good bond.
 
The type of plastic used would determine the extra steps required before the adhesive would bond as desired




Surface Treatment of Materials for Adhesive Bonding
ISBN  978-0-323-26435-8


Yes the card is registered and has 10 years warranty. No I didn't contact. What would they tell me? That I have to RMA. Lol no. Then I fix it my own. But this quality has to become better for that price. You see that the whole cover is made as cheap as possible.


Have them send you a replacement plastic cover with the logo properly secured or ask them for the factory adhesive for you to install it. For what everyone is paying for it's definitely disappointing having that happen.
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 10:20:54 (permalink)
Well that's embarrassing for EVGA.
Would not want to RMA as a customer or as a supplier for a sticker peeling off.
Personally i would use some heat to stick it back on as AHowes suggested before doing an RMA.
Maybe EVGA could provide some methods and guidance on how to best go about that?
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 10:26:35 (permalink)
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EVGA, I really love your products. That was the reason I was waiting so long for my FTW3 card. You can discuss about if its a beauty or not but ok. What I can't understand is the really poor quality of the logo. It only is a thin (plastic?) plate glued to the frame. At unboxing one side the frame was a bit peeled off so I pushed it back. Now on day 3 I looked into my PC and both sides are peeled off. I think after one month the whole font will fall off.
 
It might be no big deal but if you remember that this is a 1000 EUR product I don't see the love I want to. There even isn't the FTW3 branded in because of cost reasons. I could live with that but if I have to push the plate back once a week that can't be the truth 
 



Heat the strip with a blow drier and press it back on with some good pressure and hold for a few secs for it to cool. Should work. Heating up the adhesive so its sticky should work.



+1
 
Some adhesives are heat activated, some are pressure activated ... this is worth a go
 
The "point" of my earlier post ---> if the "treatment of the plastic" is the issue, the factory adhesive will never stick properly
 
Maybe a New shroud could be exchanged ... you'd have to ask EVGA Customer Service if this would be possible

Advanced RMA & swap the cover when the new one arrives ---> if you really want to is a possibility if you like your current card
 
Other members have mentioned switching to a different way of bonding the emblem



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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 11:26:32 (permalink)
Oh man, that sticker peeling just looks so sad. 
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 11:37:07 (permalink)
I guess I'm the weird one out...I wouldn't care as long as the card worked....
 
Same reason I don't give a rats hiney about 'rgb'...it's about functionality of the card
and it's real reason for being..not cosmetics.
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 15:26:28 (permalink)
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Other members have mentioned switching to a different way of bonding the emblem





Just hope that doesn't void their warranty.  I would see if EVGA is ok with the different methods first on such expensive hardware.

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 15:33:41 (permalink)
(Note: I don't mean to troll with my comment...Just a differing perspective...I totally get why it would upset someone....)
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 22:49:14 (permalink)
I'm with you transdogmifier. But you have to remember that we all overpaied these cards so we can expect perfect quality. Now the materials look cheap and the card even holds together. 
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 22:59:26 (permalink)
I would almost think if it is a major issue EVGA might send out replacements with a better adhesive on them. I would also wonder if it could be they want to offer customization options in the future or planned to allow them and decided against it. I am sure some case mods would love to replace that with something else and if they can peel it off I am sure they will.

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 23:43:08 (permalink)
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Quality of any EVGA product is very questionable and that comes from a person whom owns ton of EVGA GPU's and few M/B. Yes their support is decent but whether support is more important to U than quality???



In what way? Can you give more info?
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/16 23:47:52 (permalink)
Look at this the RTX 2070 has it's logo behind glass what looks very pretty and can't peel off. This card only costs half the price. Just why EVGA didn't you do this to the "top end" cards?
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 07:46:16 (permalink)
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Other members have mentioned switching to a different way of bonding the emblem





Just hope that doesn't void their warranty.  I would see if EVGA is ok with the different methods first on such expensive hardware.



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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 07:49:41 (permalink)
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Look at this the RTX 2070 has it's logo behind glass what looks very pretty and can't peel off. This card only costs half the price. Just why EVGA didn't you do this to the "top end" cards?
 





What photo ?  Can't see it.  Which 2070 ?
 
Have a link to share ?
 
Behind Glass ---> I do not think so, but if I knew what your sources was
 
 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 08:11:16 (permalink)
Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3313423/components-graphics/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-xc-review.html
 
I now have contacted EVGA support. They told me that I have to RMA the card. But I don't want to RMA the whole card so I have to deal with it and fix it by my own...
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 08:37:58 (permalink)
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Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3313423/components-graphics/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-xc-review.html
 
I now have contacted EVGA support. They told me that I have to RMA the card. But I don't want to RMA the whole card so I have to deal with it and fix it by my own...


That's stupid! Who'd want to spend money shipping it back for a loose label? And get a used card in return? Be a dumb move for a business to loose money paying for shipping both ways as well!

Does this sound fishy to anyone else?

Let's see if you fix it yourself you void warranty?

They should be sending everyone out a new label with better adhesive or just new better double sided tape.
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 08:53:52 (permalink)
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Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3313423/components-graphics/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-xc-review.html
 
I now have contacted EVGA support. They told me that I have to RMA the card. But I don't want to RMA the whole card so I have to deal with it and fix it by my own...


So I talked to CS a few days ago, they have a buffer in stock for defective cards for RMA. If you managed to get the advanced RMA package you can essentially have your new card overnight to you and have little to no down time in replacing it.

Otherwise just get a heat gun and super glue and fix it that way. That's what I'll be doing when I get my card
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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 08:56:10 (permalink)
Yes, it should not have happend, and that's why EVGA offered you an RMA, nothing more they can do on their side. It doesn't mean that this problem is related to all cards of this model, nor that the EVGA cards are not well designed. It's 1 problem on 2 cards, for thousands of cards sold over the world. Thought i understand your frustration!
 
I agree with Frammish. A well placed thin double sided tape stick should perfectly do the trick, it would be invisble and look as good as new so no need to RMA then you can forget all of this and enjoy your card ;)

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 09:10:05 (permalink)
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Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3313423/components-graphics/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-xc-review.html
 
I now have contacted EVGA support. They told me that I have to RMA the card. But I don't want to RMA the whole card so I have to deal with it and fix it by my own...


That's stupid! Who'd want to spend money shipping it back for a loose label? And get a used card in return? Be a dumb move for a business to loose money paying for shipping both ways as well!

Does this sound fishy to anyone else?

Let's see if you fix it yourself you void warranty?

They should be sending everyone out a new label with better adhesive or just new better double sided tape.



No that's not stupid. That's how the system works. A company can't ask customers to fix a defective product themselves. That's why their only option is to offer an RMA. Find me one example of a manufacturer that ever offered a customer something else than an RMA when a product is defective, i'll be waiting 

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Re: Quality? FTW3 Logo peel off. 2018/10/17 09:36:58 (permalink)
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Otherwise just get a heat gun and super glue and fix it that way. That's what I'll be doing when I get my card



Really would recommend against super glue. Cyanoacrylates (super glue) will fog plastic big time. Detectives use that fogging property to visualize fingerprints. It would look like hell. Even the thick slow-set kind will fog.
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