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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/22 23:56:06
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Has there been any announcement of when the 3090 Kingpin will be available for purchase to the general public, i.e. non-elite members?
In the US that likely won't happen, too many scalpers would try to get one if they removed the one "goal post" they can put in place to deter lazy scalpers from being able to purchase. Usually Kingpin cards are pretty exclusive, not totally sure if they have always been Elite Only, I don't believe so, but I think this generation it will stay that way, as it should - IMO they should wax anyone who scalps their card (reselling it without using it first) from being able to buy them ever again, but I doubt they'll go that far. There'd have to be exceptions for people who legitimately want 2 cards for SLi benchmarking record purposes etc, and all that jazz. Mine will be here Monday. Hopefully... after a shipping issue, I was all kinds of worried it was cancelled then not cancelled then they said it was returned when the label was showing it never moved, turned out somewhere between the warehouse & UPS, the label got ripped off - normally eVGA refunds anything that's returned by UPS directly, so they started that process, but luckily I contacted them today & they sent it back out, this time with an Overnight upgrade, so it'll be here Monday (I hope) instead of... whenever it got here via Ground. Lesson there is: If you place your order before the 2PM Pacific cut off & you don't see tracking action by around 4:30PM Pacific, call them to make sure it shipped properly - it doesn't take them that long to check, and it'll save you one heck of a scare like I had thinking is my card lost, etc. Speaking on the topic of overclocking, what's the mean/average y'all folks are seeing so far in clocks without the 1000W BIOS? I'm hoping I can get up close to 2200MHz, kinda sounds like that's hit or miss so far for most folks. Also, the final model AKA what everyone's getting has plain black fans right, not RGB ones? Just double checking - the less cords the better so no RGB is fine by me for now, especially since I'm planning to run Push/Pull testing... gonna run it in push only first then push/pull to see if it helps with temps at all. Given the radiator size, I'm anticipating the impact will be much less than it is on a 120mm/240mm AIO GPU setup, but still notable.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/23 06:46:24
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I have not assembled my loop or block yet, but have purchased the following for the same reason you mention:
50x50x20mm aluminum heatsinks link
Self adhesive thermal tape link
Crafting wire link
- the crafting wire is to fashion some sort of clip to secure the heat sink(s) to the back plate - I will have my GPU mounted vertically, so I don't think thermal tape alone will hold them in place.
I got 4 of those 50x50x20mm aluminum heatsinks you linked to and have them just sitting on the backplate for now:  So 100mmx100mm is just about perfect for covering the backside memory area. Without the thermal tape (should be here today), memory temps dropped by about 4 degrees to low 80's with moderate airflow (2,180 rpm) on my pair of Noctua 3,000 rpm industrial fans. I added a 120mm on top of the heatsinks as well, that gave me another couple of degrees:  Really looking forward to a dual water block solution for this card. Still, getting down into the upper 70's with this temporary solution is better than nothing: 
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/23 08:23:00
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*snip*
I got 4 of those 50x50x20mm aluminum heatsinks you linked to... *snip*
Will be interesting to see what difference it makes once the thermal tape is on. Have you looked under the back plate to see what EVGA put under there?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 03:34:20
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Does anyone know where to find 3090 K|NGP|N manual online? I am not able to find it anywhere :|
Gonna need to call evga support.
Thanks!!
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Changing subject:
I am new to overclocking with a KP card, currently using LN2 BIOS to run some test. Would anyone mind to give me some advice to get the most of this card?
Have to ask Vince for XOC BIOS (a.k.a BIOS 1000W) through email, right?
AFAIK there is a tool called Classified Tools, which allows user to control voltages and other parameters, where could I find latest version of this tool?
After that, Should I use Precision X1 to control clocks?
I came from overclocking a Titan Xp for a while, and I used MSI AfterBurner to change frequency curve, so would like to learn how to do this in PX1.
At the moment, I ran 3DMark Fire Strike and could not get pass 470W (520W BIOS), MEM = ~11000MHZ, Core= 2150-2160
Is this what should I expect?
I will buy Port Royal today so I will provide more info.
Best,
Nikos / Miguel
You can get the 1000w xoc vbios from techpowerup.com. The classified tool can be downloaded from the overclocking section of these forums. Specifically here... https://forums.evga.com/3...OC-Tools-m3154924.aspx
If I install the 1000W bios with the stock kingpin cooler will be enough to get more performance without going too much and breaking the card? Or it's necessary to use LN2? I still can't get over 475W with the LN2 bios.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 08:34:50
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Will be interesting to see what difference it makes once the thermal tape is on. Have you looked under the back plate to see what EVGA put under there?
I have not removed the back plate, but I looked at a pic shows exactly where the VRAM is located. So I changed my arrangement slightly after applying the thermal tape to be as follows:  I also upgraded to a Nuctua 3,000 rpm capable fan and slightly changed its location to direct a bit more air over the heat sinks closest to the motherboard. I basically raised it slightly so that it was at a slight angle and rested on the CPU tightening knobs:  Turns out the thermal tape did not make much difference since the heat sinks made excellent contract and transferred heat quite well just resting on the back plate. Here are my results with the fan at 2,000 (Current) and 2,900 rpm (Minimum):  I'm happy with the readings I get with the fan @ 2,000 rpm as it is relatively quiet where the 2,900 setting is annoying and only lowers my temp by 2 degrees max.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 09:53:43
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Does anyone know where to find 3090 K|NGP|N manual online? I am not able to find it anywhere :|
Gonna need to call evga support.
Thanks!!
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Changing subject:
I am new to overclocking with a KP card, currently using LN2 BIOS to run some test. Would anyone mind to give me some advice to get the most of this card?
Have to ask Vince for XOC BIOS (a.k.a BIOS 1000W) through email, right?
AFAIK there is a tool called Classified Tools, which allows user to control voltages and other parameters, where could I find latest version of this tool?
After that, Should I use Precision X1 to control clocks?
I came from overclocking a Titan Xp for a while, and I used MSI AfterBurner to change frequency curve, so would like to learn how to do this in PX1.
At the moment, I ran 3DMark Fire Strike and could not get pass 470W (520W BIOS), MEM = ~11000MHZ, Core= 2150-2160
Is this what should I expect?
I will buy Port Royal today so I will provide more info.
Best,
Nikos / Miguel
You can get the 1000w xoc vbios from techpowerup.com. The classified tool can be downloaded from the overclocking section of these forums. Specifically here... https://forums.evga.com/3...OC-Tools-m3154924.aspx
If I install the 1000W bios with the stock kingpin cooler will be enough to get more performance without going too much and breaking the card? Or it's necessary to use LN2?
I still can't get over 475W with the LN2 bios.
Installing the xoc vbios won’t make the card draw more power unless you run an app that can make it draw additional power such as Furmark.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 11:19:56
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I'm happy with the readings I get with the fan @ 2,000 rpm as it is relatively quiet where the 2,900 setting is annoying and only lowers my temp by 2 degrees max.
What are you running to generate those temps just out of curiosity? Games, benchmark? I don't have a KP. Same as a lot of people I ended up with a so so 3090 (Zotac) and have had the same problem with backplate overheating particularly when mining on the side (I bought it for gaming). This was my solution similar to yours.    " /> I've been follow various threads to see what other solutions people had come up with. I can't get mem temps but my measured backplate temp was reduced from 150F to 125F according to my tire pyrometer (my other expensive hobby lol).
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 14:19:52
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 15:21:33
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If I install the 1000W bios with the stock kingpin cooler will be enough to get more performance without going too much and breaking the card? Or it's necessary to use LN2?
I still can't get over 475W with the LN2 bios.
To those who don't, please be cautious-- the 1000w is different than the other BIOSs and is a "real" XOC BIOS. It does not have not have the normal protections running. Poor cooling/hot spots/poor voltage settings in the Classified tool etc could hurt the card if not careful and/or new to this. What are your current GPU temperatures/speed/ambient temps on the stock BIOS?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 15:23:55
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+1 I like the Borg Cube look. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 16:09:39
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 16:41:57
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What are you running to generate those temps just out of curiosity? Games, benchmark?
Mining ETH which is very memory intensive. It is running in the background anytime I'm not gaming. It does not interfere with regular work like web browsing, email, etc. Right now I'm earning just under $10/day, so that adds up over the long run.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/24 20:38:05
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My K|NGPIN 3090 rig.
TwoEvilOne's Stormbreaker
I'm really digging the analog thermometer and hydrometer gauges! Engauge used to make analog RGB gauges for temperature, fan speed, and CPU/GPU utilization over a USB interface but they look to be discontinued now: speedhut.com/gaminggauges.html The black/blue would look really nice in your build! 
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 00:35:50
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My KPE gets here later today! Can’t wait for a custom block for it
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 05:41:34
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14 945 - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/57271130?Enermax Platimax 1700W LN2 BIOS +1350 mem clock / +150 GPU clock / 0 voltage / 121% power target Classified Tools: NVVDD 1.10625V / FBVDD 1.37500 V / MSVDD 1.0875V / NV Freq. 400 kHz / MS Freq. 400 kHz NVVDD Loadline Level 1 / MSVDD Loadline Level 1 NVVDD OCP Disable / MSVDD OCP Disable Ambient temp in my room (around 20-25ºC) Average GPU temperature 47 °C Are this good results? Or have I lost the silicon lottery? Does anyone have any pictures or text indicating what each Dip Switch does? I've looked all over the box and can't seem to find any brochures indicating what each switch is for.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 09:13:32
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What are you running to generate those temps just out of curiosity? Games, benchmark?
Mining ETH which is very memory intensive. It is running in the background anytime I'm not gaming. It does not interfere with regular work like web browsing, email, etc. Right now I'm earning just under $10/day, so that adds up over the long run.
Yep same exact reason I have that HSF on my backplate. I've got my 3090 and another 3 older Gen cards running (2060, 2080S, 1080ti). Although I had already put the heatsink on just for gaming after noticing how insanely hot the backplate was getting.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 09:26:16
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My K|NGPIN 3090 rig.
TwoEvilOne's Stormbreaker
I'm really digging the analog thermometer and hydrometer gauges!
Engauge used to make analog RGB gauges for temperature, fan speed, and CPU/GPU utilization over a USB interface but they look to be discontinued now:
speedhut.com/gaminggauges.html
The black/blue would look really nice in your build!
Did some poking around because those look awesome. Definitly considering mounting on the external of my caes to get an internal case abient temp. Newegg has this one that is similar
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 11:48:22
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Stupid question for y'all, just got my card up & running:
Do I need to adjust the angle of the LCD screen myself on the card, or is that done via Precision X1? And would you recommend for or against using Precision X1 & thereby updating the firmware on the card currently given last I heard the LCD gets borked for some folks with the firmware update?
Any recommendations for what to do first?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:02:06
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Very nice! I love to see these builds in the Lian Li O11D. Quick question for you...with the K|NGP|N setup in a push-pull configuration like that, are you not able to fit a rear fan in the case? Same thing for the CPU rad on the side, does the tubing at the bottom prevent you from fitting a third fan there?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:07:33
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"Do I need to adjust the angle of the LCD screen myself on the card, or is that done via Precision X1?" - you're joking, right?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:10:19
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"Do I need to adjust the angle of the LCD screen myself on the card, or is that done via Precision X1?" - you're joking, right?
Uh, no, I don't wanna break it if it's actually self adjusting, things do have those these days y'know, it was a serious question. lol I'll take that as a "it is not self adjusting or adjustable via program" - back in my day we didn't have fancy LCDs on CLASSIFIED graphics cards, thank you very much. lol
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:19:54
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Uh, no, I don't wanna break it if it's actually self adjusting, things do have those these days y'know, it was a serious question. lol I'll take that as a "it is not self adjusting or adjustable via program" - back in my day we didn't have fancy LCDs on CLASSIFIED graphics cards, thank you very much. lol
It's manual only.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:30:45
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No Ejecto Seato cuzz, got it.
The more importante of the two questions, what's the general consensus on letting the firmware update or not? Has the latest version of Precision been fixed so that it won't potentially bork the LCD's alignment (or break it all together) like I know as reported previously with some units, or should I hold off on that for now?
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:32:59
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You'll need to try it. I got mine from the 2nd batch of KPE releases and updated the LCD firmware the same day. No issue. Let us know how yours overclock.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 12:43:40
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Lovely build. If you'd like, post that here if you haven't.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 16:03:42
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Every attempt at mining in the background causes my kingpin 3090 to crash my system after a few minutes. Do you mind sharing your settings? Thanks. Update: I think I found my issue.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 16:24:13
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I received mine this week and updated the firmware with zero issues.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 22:50:09
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I received mine this week and updated the firmware with zero issues.
Wow man, superb job. Kudos for the system
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/25 23:25:52
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I received mine this week and updated the firmware with zero issues.
That is great to hear! Congratulations again!
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin
2021/01/26 00:38:32
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So far I must say, this card is already impressing. I'm still on the Normal BIOS, being capped at 425-435W maximum limit, and I'm already hitting ~14.4k on Port Royal with pretty modest overclocks. My personal best is 14.7K on my old 3090 and that was no where near 24/7 stable either.
Given that that means I have another 100W almost in headroom once I switch to the 'normal' LN2 BIOS, I think this thing is going to be quite impressive overall.
Also, the temperatures on this thing are awesome, idling on the VRM/vRAM is in the 20sC(!!!), core is about the same as my 3090 Hybrid, unsurprisingly, and so far I haven't hit 50C load during PR testing, and the VRMs/vRAM is varying between ~45C-50C on the hotter ones & as low as 30C on the cooler ones. Crazy considering the same type of testing on the regular 3090 FTW3 Hybrid was seeing temps in the high 50s & 60sC on the same components with the lowest being in the 40s.
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