squall-leonhart
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A few worth to note things.
- Boxex are more black (later I will upload photos in high resolution)
- GDDR6 Samusng instead of GDDR6 Micron
- New bios
- The cards work more stable
- They reach lower temperatures
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 07:54:42
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Received my EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra today (did not buy it on evga.com) and my card is still using GDDR6 from Micron.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 07:58:59
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Any truth to the Micron vs Samsung assertion in that link (post#2)?
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:01:05
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I cannot say, but there is possibility that the issue was a defective run of microns own chips.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:05:15
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I just looked at the bios update thread in this forum. It's all Micron memory.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:26:29
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Hmm thats a bit scary info, seems the micron is the "cheaper/less doable" version, and afraid of the long vitality for the cards with these vs samsungs. Gotta be a reason to why they change, scary with the samsung parts seems more stable / less hot. Its alot of money if its dies early / after warranty, cause we are early adopters. Could also be the reason why its so hard to get cards, the orders get mowed time after time, my order went from, 13/11 - 18/12 - 15/1 2019....perhaps they are aware and stopped production with micron chips. I fear they will jyst change the never cards to samsung ram, and rma those micron chips that dies early, even though they know the failrate is high. Sucks to pay a premium with less quality components, and perhaps components that "burns out" faster. A thought i had regarding the dying cards, seems to come true. Will be interesting the next couple of weeks, how it will unfold.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:31:13
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Just remember, Micron had GDDR5 issues on the 1070 which required bios tuning, so they aren't new to being of lesser spec compared to samsung stuff.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:38:54
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This reminds me of the Elpidia ram that was used in the 780's until they switched over to samsung as well. Hopefully this isn't very significant this time around...
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:56:48
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NVIDIA hasn't changed the VRAM manufacturer. They had an exklusive contract with Micron where Micron delivers the memory chips for the release cards. With additional AIB cards it was clear that we'll see cards with Samsung chips as well. We might also see some cards with SK Hynix Chips.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 08:58:15
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NVIDIA hasn't changed the VRAM manufacturer.
We'll see in the next few days.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
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It would be nice to hear from EVGA on this.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 10:01:32
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Interesting turn of events
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 10:33:36
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NVIDIA hasn't changed the VRAM manufacturer. They had an exklusive contract with Micron where Micron delivers the memory chips for the release cards. With additional AIB cards it was clear that we'll see cards with Samsung chips as well. We might also see some cards with SK Hynix Chips.
Well, some FE cards are coming with Samsung, so...
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 10:39:42
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Interesting. I don't have any complaints about the speed of the memory in my FTW3. I have taken it up to +1100 and have never had it crash on me. It will be interesting to see if the Samsung memory really runs cooler.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 10:41:11
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I wonder if any EVGA Based Cards have or will have this problem.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 11:47:03
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Well.. I do believe NVidia has utilized Samsung, micron, and elpidia in the past... so is there something wrong with them doing this again?
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 12:43:14
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Well.. I do believe NVidia has utilized Samsung, micron, and elpidia in the past... so is there something wrong with them doing this again?
No, but people will want the best for their $1200 dollar purchase. Better stability & lower temps sound good.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 13:15:05
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Well.. I do believe NVidia has utilized Samsung, micron, and elpidia in the past... so is there something wrong with them doing this again?
No, but people will want the best for their $1200 dollar purchase. Better stability & lower temps sound good.
We can't be sure of know at all of that's the case. What we do know is that Samsung can produce a much faster GDDR6, at 18 instead of 14 gbps.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 13:58:42
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No, but people will want the best for their $1200 dollar purchase. Better stability & lower temps sound good.
It would seem early adopters never learn. Folks paid $1200 for exactly what was advertised prior to launch. If they truly want what’s best, they’d all know to wait. I guarantee there will be people that return their cards because they didn’t get the Samsung version. I remember many members that complained the 780ti was faster than the Titan, and said they wouldn’t come back. Then the 980ti after the Titan X Maxwell and they wouldn’t come back. The the 1080ti after the Titan XP and the immediate and silent launch of the Titan Xp launch around the same time as the 1080ti released... yep, they said they wouldn’t come back. “People want the best for the money...” Then they better learn to wait... if they keep falling for the same trick, it isn’t NVidia fault and they deserve only what they pay for, which is what was advertised prior to launch.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/08 21:41:26
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Dejavu....lol I sure hope they all make the switch to Samsung memory as its the go to brand for memory. I hope this Micron deal with Nvidia doesn't affect EVGA from going with someone else like Samsung. (HINT: EVGA)
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/09 06:18:42
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Boxes are blacker with the Samsung boards 
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/09 07:30:55
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Are they the same sku though? I would think they would make them a different sku, or that would be a wish. Guess I'll never know until I get it in hand.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/09 07:31:17
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Boxes are blacker with the Samsung boards
Packaging is a terrible indicator of hardware changes. You can have color differences between carton batches even from the same manufacturer and plant. Go by what's on the card.
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/09 15:43:43
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I wanted to take a 2080 ti, but if the Samsung is planned on this card (and if it's better than the Micron), I can wait a little
But does EVGA plan to use the Samsung or keep the Micron ?
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
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I wanted to take a 2080 ti, but if the Samsung is planned on this card (and if it's better than the Micron), I can wait a little
But does EVGA plan to use the Samsung or keep the Micron ?
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2018/11/10 15:31:30
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So if we have cards with Micron Memory we have bad cards?
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Re: Nvidia has updated the Reference / Founders 2080ti's to utilise Samsung GDDR6.
2018/11/10 15:53:23
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So if we have cards with Micron Memory we have bad cards?
No.
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So if we have cards with Micron Memory we have bad cards?
No.
Why No, If I may ask that is.
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