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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 00:48:06
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Anyway maybe NVIDIA wait to see what AMD could offer, they talk about Polaris in June/July. Computex as always will tell us more about new GeForce and Radeons. Polaris will have GDDR5X... But I think NVIDIA should offer premium card with HBM2. They should stop to ask premium price and leave AMD to invent DX11,HMB, HBM2, GDDR5X... If they want premium price than NVIDIA CEO should behave different and to present full unlocked with HBM2. It's time to NVIDIA once adopt new features first on their graphic cards, not always to wait AMD to give us first.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 01:11:30
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There is a refresh P2XX coming next year  Nvidia Tesla Workstation GPU Specification Comparison (2013 - 2016) Volta won't be avail until late 2017 and then only for Nvidia clusters first again and we won't get volta til 2018 for consumer market add some exascale info from 2015 http://images.nvidia.com/events/sc15/pdfs/SC5102-path-exascale-computing.pdf
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 03:19:44
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 03:27:02
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I think gamers should be patient and to wait when NVIDIA decide to tell something more. In this moment to completely turn head on other side and to show them back or something else...  We have no reason to increase hype about Pascal and they will put in first plan workstation market. People who buy that should chat and debate about Pascal, not we... example NASA engineers, scientists on some university, etc... They are in first plan and we need to talk about NVIDIA and increase their price and demands and popularity.... More people talk about Pascal, more rumors, fake news, etc... everything influence very positive on NVIDIA popularity and profit. If all of us wait NVIDIA Ceo to say something about Pascal and they say nothing... Literary nothing, they confirmed some speculations and rumors about P100 and Tesla and Workstations... Gamers didn't hear nothing, I only hope some gamer didn't pay ticket to listen him to confirm rumors about chip and Tesla. Because we didn't hear specification, launch date, characteristics, pictures... no reason to talk about that any more. At least before NVIDIA tell us what they decide.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 06:37:03
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I think gamers should be patient and to wait when NVIDIA decide to tell something more.
Everybody is already doing that sir  pardon me... I just want to say let the laughs come when people assume that because Pascal will stack HBM2 (on some cards) that they should be faster because it has HBM2. LOL  ^ That is exactly what the AMD fanboys did when the Fury launched with HBM. It should be faster right? It has HBM...
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 09:22:43
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TSMC has stated at the last meeting that the first customer tape out has occurred to 10FF. Arm cortex-a57 have been put on 10nm. ie test production and 7nm FF is in risk production (less than 30% yields) In response to questions from the INQUIRER, TSMC said that its 7nm FinFET process is expected to come on stream for mass silicon production during the first half of 2018. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 and GeForce GTX 1070 With Pascal GPUs Under Full Production – Rumors Point to Computex RevealRead more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-computex-2016/#ixzz45FoW9Da7 AMD Polaris 11 Radeon 470 GPU Specs Leaked On Compubench – 1024 GCN 4.0 Cores And 128bit Memory BusRead more: http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-11-gpu-specifications-leaked-compubench/#ixzz45FojCvUC
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 10:22:47
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TSMC has stated at the last meeting that the first customer tape out has occurred to 10FF. Arm cortex-a57 have been put on 10nm. ie test production
and 7nm FF is in risk production (less than 30% yields)
In response to questions from the INQUIRER, TSMC said that its 7nm FinFET process is expected to come on stream for mass silicon production during the first half of 2018.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 and GeForce GTX 1070 With Pascal GPUs Under Full Production – Rumors Point to Computex Reveal
Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-computex-2016/#ixzz45FoW9Da7
AMD Polaris 11 Radeon 470 GPU Specs Leaked On Compubench – 1024 GCN 4.0 Cores And 128bit Memory Bus
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-11-gpu-specifications-leaked-compubench/#ixzz45FojCvUC
Would Nvidia be able to step in and tell AMD they cannot use 470 as their model because it's the same name which Nvidia gave their GTX 470? I could see Nvidia doing that just to be jerks about it, honestly... GTX 470 Radeon 470 Hmm.....
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 10:40:54
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TSMC has stated at the last meeting that the first customer tape out has occurred to 10FF. Arm cortex-a57 have been put on 10nm. ie test production
and 7nm FF is in risk production (less than 30% yields)
In response to questions from the INQUIRER, TSMC said that its 7nm FinFET process is expected to come on stream for mass silicon production during the first half of 2018.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 and GeForce GTX 1070 With Pascal GPUs Under Full Production – Rumors Point to Computex Reveal
Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-computex-2016/#ixzz45FoW9Da7
AMD Polaris 11 Radeon 470 GPU Specs Leaked On Compubench – 1024 GCN 4.0 Cores And 128bit Memory Bus
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-11-gpu-specifications-leaked-compubench/#ixzz45FojCvUC
Would Nvidia be able to step in and tell AMD they cannot use 470 as their model because it's the same name which Nvidia gave their GTX 470? I could see Nvidia doing that just to be jerks about it, honestly...
GTX 470
Radeon 470
Hmm.....
GTX 280. GTX 270. Radeon 280, radeon 270. They haven't said anything yet have they?
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 10:40:57
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Would Nvidia be able to step in and tell AMD they cannot use 470 as their model because it's the same name which Nvidia gave their GTX 470? I could see Nvidia doing that just to be jerks about it, honestly...
GTX 470
Radeon 470
Hmm.....
They could only stop them if they had gotten a trademark on the number 470 which they don't. Now if AMD tried to use "GTX 470" that would be different. But Nvidia can't stop them from simply using a number.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/08 10:46:34
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TSMC has stated at the last meeting that the first customer tape out has occurred to 10FF. Arm cortex-a57 have been put on 10nm. ie test production
and 7nm FF is in risk production (less than 30% yields)
In response to questions from the INQUIRER, TSMC said that its 7nm FinFET process is expected to come on stream for mass silicon production during the first half of 2018.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 and GeForce GTX 1070 With Pascal GPUs Under Full Production – Rumors Point to Computex Reveal
Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-computex-2016/#ixzz45FoW9Da7
AMD Polaris 11 Radeon 470 GPU Specs Leaked On Compubench – 1024 GCN 4.0 Cores And 128bit Memory Bus
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-11-gpu-specifications-leaked-compubench/#ixzz45FojCvUC
Would Nvidia be able to step in and tell AMD they cannot use 470 as their model because it's the same name which Nvidia gave their GTX 470? I could see Nvidia doing that just to be jerks about it, honestly...
GTX 470
Radeon 470
Hmm.....
GTX 280. GTX 270. Radeon 280, radeon 270. They haven't said anything yet have they?
True, they haven't.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/10 14:26:48
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I try to follow these threads as best as I can but I'm admittedly ignorant still... is the GP100 going to be big "brutes" like 1080 Ti or is that going to be GP200?
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/10 14:44:00
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At this point it's all speculation, but if they release a GP100 it will probably be an x80 Ti.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/10 19:32:50
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stalinx20pardon me... I just want to say let the laughs come when people assume that because Pascal will stack HBM2 (on some cards) that they should be faster because it has HBM2. LOL
^ That is exactly what the AMD fanboys did when the Fury launched with HBM. It should be faster right? It has HBM... It should've been, but Anandtech analyzed the issue and concluded that AMD's architecture didn't need it because it couldn't properly utilize the memory bandwidth it already had. It just wasn't ever built for it and was why AMD waited so long to begin the various VRAM and color compression tricks that NVIDIA has been using for multiple GPU generations. By comparison they demonstrated NVIDIA's cards were more sensitive to memory bandwidth. So I think it's a reasonable bet that Pascal will be capable of putting much of the bandwidth increase to good use. It's also why if AMD doesn't redesign the GCN architecture with Polaris it'll be a toss up whether it can utilize HBM2 to its full potential. Which incidentally plays into why AMD's last roadmap seems to indicate Polaris will be going GDDR5x now... no point going HBM2 if it can't make use of it.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/11 00:35:15
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According to sources within Nvdia’s supply chain, the company is preparing to announce its Geforce series Pascal GPUs sometime around or during Computex 2016 in Taipei, Taiwan.ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI will be showcasing their Pascal-based cards at Computex 2016 and expect to increase their shipments in July 2016, according to the sources.The sources have pointed out that the GPU market overall continues to see weak demand in the first half of the year, and GPU shipments in Q2 (April – June) are expected to drop 10 percent from Q1 (January – March). With increasing demand from high-end gaming and virtual reality (VR) markets, however, the sources are confident that Nvidia’s higher-end GPUs could see strong performance this year. Other than that, they expect worldwide GPU shipments for the whole year to remain mostly flat. http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40416-nvidia-geforce-pascal-gpus-launching-at-computex-2016
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/11 20:18:04
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 980 Ti can substitute in May - the GTX 970 is succeeded in June
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/21978-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-och-gtx-980-ti-far-ersattare-i-maj-gtx-970-avloses-i-juni
also take heed to read this
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidias-pascal-chips-gp106-bei-205mm%C2%B2-und-gp104-bei-294mm%C2%B2-chipflaeche
gp106 is relatively the same size as 104 by comparisons to other previous models
and also take note 500mm gp102 and the shader count
Thank you for that Xavier. That helps with my decision. I've been trying to hold off until Pascal and knowing that the new Ti's should be right around the corner helps a bunch. My 3960x should be sitting strong but maybe ill have to go to 32GB of RAM and then 2 x80 Ti's. That way once my fiance warms up to the idea of reoutfitting the house with all new 4K tv's... I'll make the excuse that my computer needs a 4K screen as well or else it will be lonely (but then I'll already have massive GPU horsepower to push 4K at high FPS for quite some time to come and i'll just say that i "only" need the monitor).... 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/11 23:14:38
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According to the latest whispers Nvidia has allegedly designed two reference PCBs with GDDR5X and GDDR5 compatibility for its GP104 GPU based GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 graphics cards. The latest whispers claim that Nvidia has decided to create a “premium” GP104 board based on the GP104-400 GPU that is going to power the flagship Pascal GeForce GTX graphics card this year. Otherwise known as the GTX 1080 in the web’s echochambers, this “premium” board will allegedly feature GDDR5X rather than GDDR5. Whilst Nvidia’s more mainstream GP104 based graphics card, the purported GTX 1070, will be based on a cut down version of the same GP104 chip code named GP104-200 and feature 8Gbps GDDR5 chips instead. The first wave of GDDR5X memory chips that Micron has started sampling last month and will be mass producing in the summer are rated at 10Gbps, 11Gbps and 12Gbps. Which means that the fastest GDDR5X configuration will yield up to 50% more bandwidth vs the 8Gbps GDDR5 memory chips pictured above. Because the GP104 GPU is configured with a 256bit memory interface, depending on the type of GDDR5X chips chosen, the GTX 1080 can feature anywhere from 384GB/s of bandwidth to 320GB/s. That’s up to 50% more compared to the GTX 980 and 14% more compared to the GTX 980 Ti. Read more: http://wccftech.com/rumor-nvidia-pascal-gtx-1080-gddr5x-gtx-1070-f-gddr5/#ixzz45adLURui
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/12 08:12:06
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NVIDIA already sending out invitations for Pascal launch to the press NVIDIA Pascal in ‘few weeks’The leaker is not certain when exactly will this event take place, nor we are told if the launch will be a public event. The event might just as well be the so-called Editor’s Day, which often takes place before sending press samples for reviews. So this event is more like a briefing for editors. That said, if you are expecting Jen-Hsun to show his new leather jacket during live webcast, then you might be disappointed. I can’t be quite time-specific, but one thing is certain – the launch is approaching , since Nvidia already sends out invitations to the press presentation of the new cards. Reviews and all the information comes in three (maximum four) weeks. — PCTuning (Google Translation).
Although we are not certain when will this event take place, we are told that reviews should be posted in ‘maximum four weeks’. That would be two weeks before Computex. http://videocardz.com/59013/nvidia-already-sending-invitations-for-pascal-launch-to-the-press http://videocardz.com/59009/rumor-nvidia-plans-three-gp104-skus-in-june
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/12 08:32:29
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Anyway maybe NVIDIA wait to see what AMD could offer, they talk about Polaris in June/July.
Computex as always will tell us more about new GeForce and Radeons.
Polaris will have GDDR5X... But I think NVIDIA should offer premium card with HBM2.
They should stop to ask premium price and leave AMD to invent DX11,HMB, HBM2, GDDR5X...
If they want premium price than NVIDIA CEO should behave different and to present full unlocked with HBM2.
It's time to NVIDIA once adopt new features first on their graphic cards, not always to wait AMD to give us first.
Lol, you forgot to mention that AMD also invented sliced bread...
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/12 08:42:19
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 look at this photo guys, if it's really a Pascal GPU is interesting to note that the sample pictured is using Samsung GDDR5 1GB memory chip rated for 8000Mbps, assuming a 256bit memory bus the card will have 8GB of RAM
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/12 09:08:29
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Vlada011
Anyway maybe NVIDIA wait to see what AMD could offer, they talk about Polaris in June/July.
Computex as always will tell us more about new GeForce and Radeons.
Polaris will have GDDR5X... But I think NVIDIA should offer premium card with HBM2.
They should stop to ask premium price and leave AMD to invent DX11,HMB, HBM2, GDDR5X...
If they want premium price than NVIDIA CEO should behave different and to present full unlocked with HBM2.
It's time to NVIDIA once adopt new features first on their graphic cards, not always to wait AMD to give us first.
Lol, you forgot to mention that AMD also invented sliced bread...
The sad truth is that nVidia is going to string us along and drag this out for as long as possible giving us small performance increases each time until after about two years we will finally see a fully unlocked GPU with HBM memory. They promise you this but give you that and everybody will still be happy with whatever they give us.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/12 17:44:53
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that be titan X I agree why did they do that?? however it's like 3x better than previous version - so 2 of them would be like 6 of the old ones and it doesn't stop you from putting in one for Physx notice 6 pin power so - so 150W PCIE2 +75W 6pin =225W or 300pcie3+75 I suspect a cut down GP100 or a downclocked one make sense considering there is less power regulation on board 1080ti is GP104-400 1080 is GP104-200 1070 is GP104-150 according to videocardz.com http://videocardz.com/59009/rumor-nvidia-plans-three-gp104-skus-in-june Kind of a let down they are using gp104 for 1080ti 1070 3dmark 11 score (rumor - chiphell) 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/13 02:12:54
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Anyway maybe NVIDIA wait to see what AMD could offer, they talk about Polaris in June/July.
Computex as always will tell us more about new GeForce and Radeons.
Polaris will have GDDR5X... But I think NVIDIA should offer premium card with HBM2.
They should stop to ask premium price and leave AMD to invent DX11,HMB, HBM2, GDDR5X...
If they want premium price than NVIDIA CEO should behave different and to present full unlocked with HBM2.
It's time to NVIDIA once adopt new features first on their graphic cards, not always to wait AMD to give us first.
Lol, you forgot to mention that AMD also invented sliced bread...
The sad truth is that nVidia is going to string us along and drag this out for as long as possible giving us small performance increases each time until after about two years we will finally see a fully unlocked GPU with HBM memory. They promise you this but give you that and everybody will still be happy with whatever they give us.
Well, it's normal practice in the IT industry, they have to plan it's product somehow and that it's done for plenty of reason, some of which are frankly good like yeld or the need to prioritize certain market segment, and also depend on many factor where NVIDIA has no control like competitor performance, market situation, component prices and wafer price. I understand that someone may don't like the idea of buying a GPU with disabled capabilities but in the end you get the performance you see on reviews so you "exactly" know the performance it deliver.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/14 00:48:39
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that be titan X
I agree why did they do that??
however it's like 3x better than previous version - so 2 of them would be like 6 of the old ones
and it doesn't stop you from putting in one for Physx
notice 6 pin power so - so 150W PCIE2 +75W 6pin =225W or 300pcie3+75
I suspect a cut down GP100 or a downclocked one
make sense considering there is less power regulation on board
1080ti is GP104-400
1080 is GP104-200
1070 is GP104-150
according to videocardz.com
http://videocardz.com/59009/rumor-nvidia-plans-three-gp104-skus-in-june
Kind of a let down they are using gp104 for 1080ti
1070 3dmark 11 score (rumor - chiphell)
This tells me that Pascal will most likely feature two iterations (1000 series and 1100 series, for example). The first will feature GP104 for the top 3 cards and the second will feature GM100 as the top card. If I had to guess, we'll probably see an identical release schedule as Kepler. We'll probably get a cut down GP100 Titan (just like the original Titan) in early 2017, then a full GP100 later in 2017 (Titan Black / 780Ti). Also, probably a GP104 refresh. This is rather unfortunate, since the best Pascal has to offer will probably release within 6 months of Volta, so a Titan "Blacker" would be kicked off of the throne rather quickly by some GV104 card. LAME. My guess at releases: GTX 1080 Ti - GP104 GTX 1080 - GP104 (weaker) GTX 1070 - GP104 (weakest) GTX 1060 and below - who cares GTX Titan "Blacker" - Full GP100 GTX Titan 2 - Cut down GP100 GTX 1180 Ti - Full GP100, less VRAM GTX 1180 - Cut down GP100, much less VRAM GTX 1170 - GP104 refresh (equivalent to 1080) GTX 1160 and below - again, who cares
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/04/14 04:31:15
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Maybe is this new Pascal. Ugliest reference card I ever saw... 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Vlada011
Maybe is this new Pascal.
Ugliest reference card I ever saw...
I totally disagree. That looks slick as diamonds. you're wrong Vlada  . The ugliest one I thought was the reference 980 from EVGA. THat's ugly, sorry EVGA. This ugly ----> http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-1980-KR
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