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2022/04/06 06:23:52 (permalink)
Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
 
My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 06:25:35 (permalink)
    That release was special for the 3090 Ti. What I imagine NVIDIA will do is merge the next driver release to support all 3xxx GeForce cards. I think they had to do a lot of scrambling to get the 3090 Ti out (hence the delay) and perhaps the driver is part of that. It's just a Quadro GPU modified for gaming (it even has ECC memory) so the first driver is probably a hodge podge there.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 07:10:56 (permalink)
    Yup, no ETA.
     

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 07:48:12 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
     
    My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.




    i'd ask why on earth you need to do this, but if it's that big of an issue just move the Ti to its own mining rig. i'm sure you'll print the money to recoup it in a month or two
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 07:58:09 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
     
    My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.




    i'd ask why on earth you need to do this, but if it's that big of an issue just move the Ti to its own mining rig. i'm sure you'll print the money to recoup it in a month or two


     
     
    lol - now we are policing how people use their $2,000+ cards?

    It is a strange and unfortunate thing that the driver only works for 3090 Ti. 
     
    Maybe they're doing tons of production work and need multiple GPUs?
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 08:09:08 (permalink)
     
    I am in the same boat and figured this out this morning. Multiple 3090s or a single 3090ti. My TI will be sitting idle for a while I guess.
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 08:27:04 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
     
    My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.




    i'd ask why on earth you need to do this, but if it's that big of an issue just move the Ti to its own mining rig. i'm sure you'll print the money to recoup it in a month or two


     
     
    lol - now we are policing how people use their $2,000+ cards?

    It is a strange and unfortunate thing that the driver only works for 3090 Ti. 
     
    Maybe they're doing tons of production work and need multiple GPUs?




    not policing, just don't have any sympathy for users who try to shoehorn tech in to some weird configuration and come crying to the forums when they can't get it to work. now ask yourself if you truly believe they bought a 3090 and a 3090Ti for "tons of production work" lol nah
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 08:28:36 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
     
    My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.




    i'd ask why on earth you need to do this, but if it's that big of an issue just move the Ti to its own mining rig. i'm sure you'll print the money to recoup it in a month or two


     
     
    lol - now we are policing how people use their $2,000+ cards?

    It is a strange and unfortunate thing that the driver only works for 3090 Ti. 
     
    Maybe they're doing tons of production work and need multiple GPUs?


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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 08:56:44 (permalink)
    I was only asking if anyone knew of a timeframe for unified drivers.
     
    Received my answer from NVIDIA. Sorry to bother you all.
     
    Trying to connect a 4-slot NVLINK between a 3090 and 3090 Ti, now that is shoehorning!
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 09:25:26 (permalink)
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    I was only asking if anyone knew of a timeframe for unified drivers.
     
    Received my answer from NVIDIA. Sorry to bother you all.
     
    Trying to connect a 4-slot NVLINK between a 3090 and 3090 Ti, now that is shoehorning!




    Only Nvidia has any idea when they will release their "next new & improved driver" .... & Rev. up the driver Number - to a new designation
     
    I'm willing to bet the next driver will support more than the 3990 Ti

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 09:41:40 (permalink)
    This still has to be one of the most consistently dumb thing Nvidia does. Release a driver that only works for a SINGLE MODEL GPU. There is no logical reason, period. All this does is add the device ID and registry entries etc etc.  512.15 to 512.16 means there was precisely one change from the previous driver: adding in model info. No other changes.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 10:05:20 (permalink)
    zippytek
     
     
    not policing, just don't have any sympathy for users who try to shoehorn tech in to some weird configuration and come crying to the forums when they can't get it to work. now ask yourself if you truly believe they bought a 3090 and a 3090Ti for "tons of production work" lol nah




    I mean, I hear you - but it isn't like EVERY NVIDIA driver in the past supported all GeForce GPUs...clearly this last release is an outlier so they're not exactly trying to break the mold. :)

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 10:31:49 (permalink)
    looks to be just a Windows issue. The Linux driver supports all cards.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 12:09:43 (permalink)
    How hard would it be to modify the driver to make it compatible with the rest of the cards and install in with driver signature enforcement disabled? It used to be easy. Is it harder now or something? Or is it just unknown or undesirable to consider it as an option.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 14:36:24 (permalink)
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    How hard would it be to modify the driver to make it compatible with the rest of the cards and install in with driver signature enforcement disabled? It used to be easy. Is it harder now or something? Or is it just unknown or undesirable to consider it as an option.

    They do the same thing with the 'Game Ready' and 'Studio' drivers. Last time they released Studio separately and it seemed to go missing only to release the Game Ready version which was bit for bit identical. They know well ahead of time the release date obviously. Needless confusion.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 15:38:01 (permalink)
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    How hard would it be to modify the driver to make it compatible with the rest of the cards and install in with driver signature enforcement disabled? It used to be easy. Is it harder now or something? Or is it just unknown or undesirable to consider it as an option.

    It’s harder to do now.
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 16:10:10 (permalink)
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    How hard would it be to modify the driver to make it compatible with the rest of the cards and install in with driver signature enforcement disabled? It used to be easy. Is it harder now or something? Or is it just unknown or undesirable to consider it as an option.

    It’s harder to do now.

    It's harder for the user to modify drivers, now. It is no harder for Nvidia. It is silly they do this about every other month.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 16:14:01 (permalink)
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    How hard would it be to modify the driver to make it compatible with the rest of the cards and install in with driver signature enforcement disabled? It used to be easy. Is it harder now or something? Or is it just unknown or undesirable to consider it as an option.

    It’s harder to do now.

    It's harder for the user to modify drivers, now. It is no harder for Nvidia. It is silly they do this about every other month.

    Yeah, clearly ty_ger07 was talking about users doing the mods, and not nvidia.
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 16:46:35 (permalink)
    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 17:12:31 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know when 512.16 will support current gen. lower tiers or previous gen. GPUs like 512.15 did?
     
    My EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra is not supported, Error 31, and cannot have both 3090 Ti and 3090 working at the same time.




    i'd ask why on earth you need to do this, but if it's that big of an issue just move the Ti to its own mining rig. i'm sure you'll print the money to recoup it in a month or two


     
     
    lol - now we are policing how people use their $2,000+ cards?

    It is a strange and unfortunate thing that the driver only works for 3090 Ti. 
     
    Maybe they're doing tons of production work and need multiple GPUs?




    not policing, just don't have any sympathy for users who try to shoehorn tech in to some weird configuration and come crying to the forums when they can't get it to work. now ask yourself if you truly believe they bought a 3090 and a 3090Ti for "tons of production work" lol nah




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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 18:00:29 (permalink)
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    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     


    Lol. So a manual install works, but a standard install doesn’t. 👍

    Can anyone else confirm this?
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 18:05:42 (permalink)
    Put the 3090 Ti in your main system and move whatever you had in there to the mining rig?
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 18:18:13 (permalink)
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    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     


    Lol. So a manual install works, but a standard install doesn’t. 👍

    Can anyone else confirm this?

    It works perfectly fine for me so far, other than your non 3090 Ti card(s) showing up as a 3090 Ti lol. One thing I should have mentioned, run the 512.16 driver installer for your 3090 Ti first, then your other cards that show the Error 31, manually install the 512.16 driver for those cards.
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/06 23:53:15 (permalink)
    kram36
    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     



    I can confirm this myself as I'm running the driver right now. Had to install the nvidia control panel, and physx manually too. 
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/07 00:12:48 (permalink)
    NVIDIA might not have an ETA but typically we see a release about once a month or so for a new driver so it really shouldn't be that long of a wait I would assume.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/07 01:11:10 (permalink)
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    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     



    I can confirm this myself as I'm running the driver right now. Had to install the nvidia control panel, and physx manually too. 


    Since my system has a 3090 Ti in it and I installed the drivers for it first, I didn't have to manually install nvidia control panel and physx. How did you manually install these?
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/07 05:42:00 (permalink)
    if you're mining or folding or BOINC-ing, which is probably what the OP needs different cards for, use Linux. better performance and the driver doesn't have this issue.
     
    or just wait for the next driver release. nvidia pushes new drivers regularly.

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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/07 09:19:49 (permalink)
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    Actually the 512.16 driver does work with other 30 Series cards. You simply run the installer, but let the installer window stay at the install page. Go into Device Manager, click on the card that's not working and select update driver. Select Browse my computer for drivers, then Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer. Now point it to where the installer extracted the files to, normally it will be C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\512.16\Win11_Win10-DCH_64\International\Display.Driver and click on the nv_dispig.inf file to bring up the driver. The only downside to this is the is the display name of your video card will say NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, however the card should work just fine. All programs that I have used sees my 3080 Ti as a 3080 Ti when I go to use it.
     

     
    This system currently has my RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3090 Ti installed in it.
     



    I can confirm this myself as I'm running the driver right now. Had to install the nvidia control panel, and physx manually too. 


    Since my system has a 3090 Ti in it and I installed the drivers for it first, I didn't have to manually install nvidia control panel and physx. How did you manually install these?

    Simply search the nvidia folder for nvcpl, open the nvcpl folder, run the appx file, now the nvidia control panel should be installed. For physx simply go here... https://www.nvidia.com/en...hysx-9-21-0713-driver/ download and install. 👍
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    Sajin
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/07 11:00:39 (permalink)
    I think this driver has some secret sauce in it as I got a 2 min/avg fps increase in cyberpunk. 😎
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    Re: Nvidia Driver 512.16 DOES NOT Support RTX 3090 or Others 2022/04/10 16:10:24 (permalink)
    I'm a bit confused. The latest driver I see on the website is 512.15. Where do you even get the 512.16.
    Also is there no way to have both 3090 and 3090 ti in the same rig? Why??
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