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2019/10/26 07:46:05 (permalink)
So this is a project i have been working on for a while and its now complete but have not tested performance yet.  A lot of people were saying there was no way to use the original memory cold plate for the kingpin card because of the way it was designed with any type of water block so i decided to try a modification. I bought the EKWB thermosphere to try just because i am thinking of using the EK-FC Terminal to link two kingpins together if this mod cools good. I like the Hydro Copper block but i wanted to try this mod and see if the flow can be improved because i think the hydro copper is to restrictive. What i done was replaced the thermosphere block with the G92 bracket instead of the G80 bracket it came with and used the standoffs it had came with. I removed the standoffs and then placed the cold plate on the block and then screwed the standoffs back on using them to hold the cold plate in position. Before installing it i drew the outline of the cold plate opening on a 1.0mm copper shim that could be used to fill the cold plate opening after installation.  i used my dremel grinder to then shave away the copper shim to fit inside the opening of the cold plate. After that mod i placed it on the pcb and tightened it down to make sure i had good contact and then removed it to inspect it and the thermal paste spread pattern was excellent and the thermal pads on the coldplate were contacting the memory like they should be.  I decided to go ahead with the rest of the mod then by reinstalling the original copper heat sinks and fan assembly as well as the back plate using as many of the screws as i could and then also added an LN2 kit OLED for the Kingpin so it still has the display screen.  So now that the mod is complete i will have to do my testing to see if it was worth it or if i just did a mod to say it could be done. I attached some images of the mod.    You can right click each image and open in a new tab for a larger view if needed.         
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:48:54 (permalink)
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:50:29 (permalink)
    This is very interesting. 

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:52:45 (permalink)
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:54:43 (permalink)
    Very nice.. but doing this mod looks like it will void warranty for the kingpin since you had to mod the cold plate. Unless somehow one can get an extra cold plate from evga.

    Gona hurt to see the temps I bet! Obviously the GPU temp will be better I'm guessing.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:57:40 (permalink)
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    Very nice.. but doing this mod looks like it will void warranty for the kingpin since you had to mod the cold plate. Unless somehow one can get an extra cold plate from evga.

    Gona hurt to see the temps I bet! Obviously the GPU temp will be better I'm guessing.



    I didn't modify the cold plate, i didn't modify any of the original parts. I used the dremel tool to grind the shim to fit in the cold plate not the cold plate itself.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 07:58:49 (permalink)
    The EK-FC terminal work with this block? Seems the card is too tall and would block it unless there is an option to add it to that top of the delrin adapter ports.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:01:06 (permalink)
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    The EK-FC terminal work with this block? Seems the card is too tall and would block it unless there is an option to add it to that top of the delrin adapter ports.



    It looks like it will work for these blocks but i might have to turn it upside down since the kingpin pcb is so wide and make the inlet from the side port which is usually outlet and the outlet from the down port which is usually the in port. 
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:01:44 (permalink)
    Oh, ok.. hehe tuff to tell but see it now. Be more interesting to know now how much that shim effects the temps. Did ya use liquid metal for tim between the shim and cold plate?

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:03:12 (permalink)
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    Oh, ok.. hehe tuff to tell but see it now. Be more interesting to know now how much that shim effects the temps. Did ya use liquid metal for tim between the shim and cold plate?



    No i used the TF8 thermal paste. 

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:03:22 (permalink)
    Hope it all works out as people will need this since it looks like they may have finally sold off all the blocks.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:06:42 (permalink)
    Well cool cant wait to see the before and after temps!

    Bet it will be much better then my before and after temps with stock and using the hydro block! Believe just like 2-3c and that's with 2x 360, 2x 480 and 1 420 radiators.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 08:30:16 (permalink)
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    The EK-FC terminal work with this block? Seems the card is too tall and would block it unless there is an option to add it to that top of the delrin adapter ports.



    Actually if you look at the EKWB site you will see that these thermosphere blocks were made from the Supremacy blocks but just for the use of the EK-FC terminals for multiple cards. The supremacy blocks are really just for a single card set-up.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/26 17:41:16 (permalink)
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    So this is a project i have been working on for a while and its now complete but have not tested performance yet. 
             
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/27 03:48:01 (permalink)
    Ok so its at least installed and running so here is the temps difference at just idle. Just as i figured the memory and vrm's are all about 3-5 degrees warmer since they are not water cooled now, the die temp only went up 1 degree with having the 1.0mm shim on it. During benchmarking is where i'm hoping i can keep the die temp cooler now since its not going to be mixing with the memory and vrm's heat in the block.
     
     
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/27 23:10:01 (permalink)
    Should be interesting.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/28 02:26:37 (permalink)
    Just like AHowes said, should be interesting. Looking forward to the temps.
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/28 08:51:12 (permalink)
    Nice modification, but I would rather stay with AIO if he finish job properly.
    It's much better when customers alone improve something not only build from original parts full of RGB, Hard Tubing, and 2 weeks after you buid you are bored.
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/29 12:20:03 (permalink)
    Updates??

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/29 12:27:03 (permalink)
    What are the temps with a 3D load after 30 min? What are your ambient temps?
     
    Memory cooling isn't that critical with GDDR6. The max operating temp is about 95c.
     
    I went different route with a EK GPU Supremacy block just over the die. Memory isn't covered. I turn the fan on the VRM heatsink to a fixed 80% and the memory never goes over 60c while gaming for hours at a time. The VRM is so over built that without adding voltage with the classified tool I doubt a VRM heatsink is really necessary. 
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/10/29 16:24:59 (permalink)
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    What are the temps with a 3D load after 30 min? What are your ambient temps?
     
    Memory cooling isn't that critical with GDDR6. The max operating temp is about 95c.
     
    I went different route with a EK GPU Supremacy block just over the die. Memory isn't covered. I turn the fan on the VRM heatsink to a fixed 80% and the memory never goes over 60c while gaming for hours at a time. The VRM is so over built that without adding voltage with the classified tool I doubt a VRM heatsink is really necessary. 




    Well i played several hours of call of duty modern warfare with everything maxed out, and the memory stayed at 45C and the die stayed at 40C. I had the vrm fan at 100% so it stayed nice and cool as well. My ambient temps are 22C   I did not have time to get into any benchmarking before i had to leave for Arizona.  When i get back home i am also going to switch out the 1.0mm shim i used and try with a 0.8mm shim that i have ordered to see if there is still enough clearance to decrease the shim thickness. Its gonna take a while to really narrow it down and see the overall difference in cooling but so far i'm liking what i see. Thanks for other forum members interest in this mod, i'll try and keep things updated as much as possible so you all know whats going on.
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/09 04:20:03 (permalink)
    Here is what the thermal paste spread pattern is with this mod to show what the contact is on both sides of the shim. I still have not received my 0.8mm shims to try them yet.

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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 11:24:41 (permalink)
    So now i have figured out that the EKWB vga supremacy block can also be installed on the kingpin card and still use the original coldplate for the kingpin as well. Just a slight mod to the coldplate is needed.
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 11:26:41 (permalink)
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    Here is what the thermal paste spread pattern is with this mod to show what the contact is on both sides of the shim. I still have not received my 0.8mm shims to try them yet.


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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:04:29 (permalink)
    So i changed my username (dwexpress) to (sparetimepc) on my evga account and after that was done it messed up my being able to get into the forums, they have been working on it for several days now and have still not been able to figure out how to link my forum posts to my new user name after it was switched so for now i have had to just revert to a different account and username all together until its figured out. Didn't know it was going to mess everything up just with the switch of a username. Anyways this thread was started by me as dwexpress and now i'm altonadavid. 
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:09:25 (permalink)
    As far as being able to use the ekwb supremacy and or the ekwb thermosphere, the supremacy mod only requires to take the cold plate from the kingpin and drill the holes from 11/64 to 13/64 and the coldplate will then fit over the studs of the supremacy install kit. The size difference is so small after drilling the holes that the coldplate can still be used or reinstalled in its original position when putting the original AIO cooler assembly back onto the pcb. 
     
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:13:12 (permalink)
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    So i changed my username (dwexpress) to (sparetimepc) on my evga account and after that was done it messed up my being able to get into the forums, they have been working on it for several days now and have still not been able to figure out how to link my forum posts to my new user name after it was switched so for now i have had to just revert to a different account and username all together until its figured out. Didn't know it was going to mess everything up just with the switch of a username. Anyways this thread was started by me as dwexpress and now i'm altonadavid. 


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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:15:53 (permalink)
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    So i changed my username (dwexpress) to (sparetimepc) on my evga account and after that was done it messed up my being able to get into the forums, they have been working on it for several days now and have still not been able to figure out how to link my forum posts to my new user name after it was switched so for now i have had to just revert to a different account and username all together until its figured out. Didn't know it was going to mess everything up just with the switch of a username. Anyways this thread was started by me as dwexpress and now i'm altonadavid. 


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    Well i know but when i contacted support to change my username i thought all was going to be changed including the forum name since the forum name is the same as the username, it seems they have been kind of caught off guard as well, i guess another lesson learned. And i can't just delete my dwexpress account because thats where all of my products are registered. About $7000 worth of products.
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:19:47 (permalink)
    Anyways here is photos of the mod with the ekwb vga supremacy, and this mod cools the die about 7C better then the thermosphere because the flow is so much better but the memory cooling is quite a bit better with this vs the thermosphere.. The same 1.0mm shim is used as what is used in the thermosphere. 
     
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    Re: Modified 2080ti Kingpin Using EKWB and Coldplate 2019/11/14 12:26:43 (permalink)
    And here is the EKWB  vga Supremacy on the 2080ti Kingpin with the LN2 OLED display mounted as well. 
    post edited by altonadavid - 2019/11/15 08:01:52

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