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Hello.
I am currently in the market for a better solution for my work pc. I am not satisfied with the job a single stock 1080 TI FE can do, and therefore I am asking what the best solution for me could possibly be.
I am aware that the two 1080 TI FE's obviously will destroy the two other options in raw performance, but I am also looking at a more budget friendly build.
My main question is how much better is the Kingpin 1080 Ti, over a stock FE card? And does anybody know if a liquid cooled FE card can compete against a Kingpin? I do like overclocking, and plan on overclocking the build no matter which option i end op choosing.
Does anybody on here have some benchmarks of a Kingpin card? possibly combined with a 7700k running 5GHz, or a stock 6900k?
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/12 16:47:56
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LordBo
Hello.
I am currently in the market for a better solution for my work pc. I am not satisfied with the job a single stock 1080 TI FE can do, and therefore I am asking what the best solution for me could possibly be.
I am aware that the two 1080 TI FE's obviously will destroy the two other options in raw performance, but I am also looking at a more budget friendly build.
My main question is how much better is the Kingpin 1080 Ti, over a stock FE card? And does anybody know if a liquid cooled FE card can compete against a Kingpin? I do like overclocking, and plan on overclocking the build no matter which option i end op choosing.
Does anybody on here have some benchmarks of a Kingpin card? possibly combined with a 7700k running 5GHz, or a stock 6900k?
A KingPin is going to be a couple percent at best and that would be due entirely to how much you can overclock it. The AIO models are quiet and will have no issues holding a stable 2ghz boost. Any more than that, is up to the silicon lottery. What type benches are you looking for? You can see what I'm running...BTW, 6850K's are going for less than $400 in some spots... https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257560-REG/intel_bx80671i76850k_core_i7_6850k_3_6_ghz.html?sts=pi $349...
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/12 19:04:01
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My main question is how much better is the Kingpin 1080 Ti, over a stock FE card?
A lot better when it comes to cooling performance, power target limits, & vrm efficiency.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 01:13:34
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A KingPin is going to be a couple percent at best and that would be due entirely to how much you can overclock it. The AIO models are quiet and will have no issues holding a stable 2ghz boost. Any more than that, is up to the silicon lottery. What type benches are you looking for? You can see what I'm running...BTW, 6850K's are going for less than $400 in some spots...https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257560-REG/intel_bx80671i76850k_core_i7_6850k_3_6_ghz.html?sts=pi $349...
I already own a 6900k, but thanks for letting me know! :P I am actually really interested in what kind of scores you achieve in 4K superposition, and maybe even the new 4K Timespy benchmark by 3Dmark if you have that. I imagine I will get another FE card in the end, but if your card runs a lot better than mine, then a hybrid might be worth it for me instead. Sajin
A lot better when it comes to cooling performance, power target limits, & vrm efficiency.
So basically it is a lot better at everything, but raw performance?
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 01:39:19
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It's not worth it you're on a budget. As someone said, its a few percentages better and mainly for benching on LN2. I'd stick with 2 FEs and throw some blocks on them.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 02:00:58
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It's not worth it you're on a budget. As someone said, its a few percentages better and mainly for benching on LN2. I'd stick with 2 FEs and throw some blocks on them.
I can get a Kingpin card for the same price of water cooling my FE card (meaning if I sell my FE card, the costs would be the same). Money is not tight, but I would obviously prefer to spend as little as possible, unless the two FE cards are just that much better.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 02:20:43
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I can get a Kingpin card for the same price of water cooling my FE card (meaning if I sell my FE card, the costs would be the same).
Money is not tight, but I would obviously prefer to spend as little as possible, unless the two FE cards are just that much better.
Depends on the game or program. It can negatively scale down to less than 1 cards performance with SLI, or it can scale all the way to 100% faster - and anywhere in between. Personally, I gave up on SLI a year or two ago as it was too much hassle to get both cards working in most of the games that I play. And then there's the waiting for drivers for new games to enable SLI. And then there's micro stuttering (if you are sensitive to it, I am not).
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 04:02:16
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LordBo
I can get a Kingpin card for the same price of water cooling my FE card (meaning if I sell my FE card, the costs would be the same).
Money is not tight, but I would obviously prefer to spend as little as possible, unless the two FE cards are just that much better.
Depends on the game or program. It can negatively scale down to less than 1 cards performance with SLI, or it can scale all the way to 100% faster - and anywhere in between.
Personally, I gave up on SLI a year or two ago as it was too much hassle to get both cards working in most of the games that I play. And then there's the waiting for drivers for new games to enable SLI. And then there's micro stuttering (if you are sensitive to it, I am not).
I work with programs like 3ds Max, that do not support SLI, and that is the one of the main reasons I want to find the best single card solution :) They might support it now, I honestly do not know, but last time I had SLI (980 TI's) the program did not support it.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 07:07:35
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If you're willing to pay for a Kingpin + WB, just stick with the Titan XP, especially for the work load that you do. It's a fully enabled Pascal. That IS the best single card solution. The Kinpin is more for LN2 benching as I've already stated. $1000+ for bragging rights in benching which won't last long.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 08:37:15
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If you're willing to pay for a Kingpin + WB, just stick with the Titan XP, especially for the work load that you do. It's a fully enabled Pascal. That IS the best single card solution. The Kinpin is more for LN2 benching as I've already stated. $1000+ for bragging rights in benching which won't last long.
I'm in this camp. Pick up a Titan XP. It will handle work loads better and has no issues with gaming on the side.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 09:48:13
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If you're willing to pay for a Kingpin + WB, just stick with the Titan XP, especially for the work load that you do. It's a fully enabled Pascal. That IS the best single card solution. The Kinpin is more for LN2 benching as I've already stated. $1000+ for bragging rights in benching which won't last long.
I'm in this camp. Pick up a Titan XP. It will handle work loads better and has no issues with gaming on the side.
How much better is a Titan Xp than a 1080 Ti FE? I am willing to watercool the Titan if it is worth it. I do sometimes have struggles with high definition models with many polygons on a single 1080 Ti, and this is what I am trying to get rid of.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 10:16:24
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Does your Software Mfg have "Certified" or Recommended GPUs listed ?
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 10:23:46
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A lot better when it comes to cooling performance, power target limits, & vrm efficiency.
So basically it is a lot better at everything, but raw performance?
There you go! Nail on the head! It's better at everything which you may or may not really care about.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 14:06:24
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Does your Software Mfg have "Certified" or Recommended GPUs listed ?
Yes, first link to pop up if you google 3ds Max certified hardware. I use the 2017 version right now, but plan on switching soon.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 14:10:46
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A lot better when it comes to cooling performance, power target limits, & vrm efficiency.
So basically it is a lot better at everything, but raw performance?
There you go! Nail on the head! It's better at everything which you may or may not really care about.
Alright, well we got the Kingpin cleared at least. That card is not worth it for me. Now I stumbled into another problem, which is that the Titan Xp's are not in stock, and the support team cannot tell me when the cards will be for sale (in Denmark).
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 14:48:36
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Should be able to grab one from Nvidia's shop since they're the only ones selling it.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 14:54:43
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Should be able to grab one from Nvidia's shop since they're the only ones selling it.
They are all sold out in Scandinavia, it seems.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/13 17:13:28
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I just sold my FE and bought a sc hybrid!
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/14 13:05:33
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I just sold my FE and bought a sc hybrid!
Awesome man! I just ordered a Titan Xp and a waterblock from Sweden!
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Re: Liquid cooled 1080 TI FE VS two aircooled 1080 TI FE's VS 1080 TI Kingpin
2017/10/14 18:11:12
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I just ordered a Titan Xp and a waterblock from Sweden!
That sounds fantastic. You won't be disappointed. 
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