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Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:34 PM (permalink)
Hey, i know it has been posted already. But i cannot find it. 
My K|NGP|N is stuck at the normal bios, what causes a limit of 120% and 1093mV.
Card crashes at 2114MHz now and i know it can go higher since the voltage and powerlimit are blocked.
I also have attached the USB cable but i don't know why i need that.
post edited by Nervoize - Friday, July 28, 2017 1:23 PM

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:48 PM (permalink)
    Head to the forums at Kingpincooling and read up on the card. They should have a thread up on all of the functions by now. I am on mobile, and can not do this for you, or I would.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:38 PM (permalink)
    Did you switch to LN2 or OC BIOS mode? Make sure to reboot after you switch it.


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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:00 PM (permalink)
    Scarlet-Tech
    Head to the forums at Kingpincooling and read up on the card. They should have a thread up on all of the functions by now. I am on mobile, and can not do this for you, or I would.



    Alright, will do.
     
    EVGA_JacobF
    Did you switch to LN2 or OC BIOS mode? Make sure to reboot after you switch it.




    Currently at OC mode because i am afraid to kill the card with LN2 mode. I switch the bios when i turned off the PC. I switched it twice now, but had no success.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:05 PM (permalink)
    Remove the card so it relieves all power after switching to OC mode. Also, verify with GPU-z that the bios number is indeed updating after the switch.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:08 PM (permalink)
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    Remove the card so it relieves all power after switching to OC mode. Also, verify with GPU-z that the bios number is indeed updating after the switch.



    Will do. I couldn't find a thread about K|NGP|N cards, so thanks for the info.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:09 PM (permalink)
    Hopefully T|n gets the thread up soon. I will try to look now that I am in better reception.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:19 PM (permalink)
    When I first install the card can it be set to the OC Bios? Or do I have to install it at stock, power off, and then set to OC?
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:26 PM (permalink)
    Set it to oc right away. The card won't know much, lol.

    Nervoize, what was your factory boost numbers before overclocking?
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:35 PM (permalink)
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    Set it to oc right away. The card won't know much, lol.

    Nervoize, what was your factory boost numbers before overclocking?



    Less than my FTW3, about 1948~1978 ish. With max power, volt and temp it hits 1999.
    With a +100 it hits 2100 stable but crashes at 2114.
     
    I had the power off the gpu for 2 mins and switched to OC bios, nothing changed tho. Can i safely try LN2?

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:42 PM (permalink)
    Yeah, Absolutely. Give it a try. If you have a voltage selection that is unlocked, just don't slam it to 1.5v or anything. Keep the voltage relatively low on air and test it out.

    Also, you may try removing precision X completely and then reinstall it to see if that helps.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:19 PM (permalink)
    Alright, will do. I'm at the carnival tonight but will let you know tomorrow.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:32 PM (permalink)
    Ahhh, nice. Have fun!
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:07 PM (permalink)
    The K|NGP|N has the voltage unlocked? NVIDIA allowed this?!? Man I need to this Bios and flash it my card.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:33 PM (permalink)
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    The K|NGP|N has the voltage unlocked? NVIDIA allowed this?!? Man I need to this Bios and flash it my card.


    It's got a 2x5 (10) + 3 power phase which may not be compatible with an FE card. The XOC BIOS is though. Goes to 1.2v standard and I believe 1.5v if you max out the slider. The only downside to the XOC is that there is no power monitoring. I can't see how much power is being drawn.
     
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 0:22 PM (permalink)
    Alright, set to the LN2 bios my max powertarget is 130%. Though, my max voltage is even lower at 1081mV 
    I am also unable to enable Overvoltage and Overboost. My fans are also making a very weird noise, i recognize the noise from the bearings.
    If you listen carefully you can hear it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFq25PjFZSw

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 0:28 PM (permalink)
    No power monitoring?
    What tells GPU-Z?
    Or nvidia SMI? ("C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe -q -d POWER")
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 0:35 PM (permalink)
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    Alright, set to the LN2 bios my max powertarget is 130%. Though, my max voltage is even lower at 1081mV 
    I am also unable to enable Overvoltage and Overboost. My fans are also making a very weird noise, i recognize the noise from the bearings.
    If you listen carefully you can hear it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFq25PjFZSw




    Can you try to narrow down which fan and see if there is an obstruction?


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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 0:57 PM (permalink)
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    No power monitoring?
    What tells GPU-Z?
    Or nvidia SMI? ("C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe -q -d POWER")


    Correction. Copy and paste into command prompt:
     
    "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe" -q -d POWER
     
    As you listed it, will return error:
    '"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe -q -d POWER"' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 1:21 AM (permalink)

     
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    Alright, set to the LN2 bios my max powertarget is 130%. Though, my max voltage is even lower at 1081mV 
    I am also unable to enable Overvoltage and Overboost. My fans are also making a very weird noise, i recognize the noise from the bearings.
    If you listen carefully you can hear it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFq25PjFZSw




    Can you try to narrow down which fan and see if there is an obstruction?




    Looks like coming from the gpu and memory fans. But the memory and power fans are more lose than the gpu fan. I find no weird spots or whatsoever and i removed all the plastic before using.
    post edited by Nervoize - Friday, July 28, 2017 1:25 AM

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 1:27 AM (permalink)
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    My fans are also making a very weird noise, i recognize the noise from the bearings.
    If you listen carefully you can hear it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFq25PjFZSw


    Try this... https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2502310
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 1:45 AM (permalink)
    300W power limit?
    A FTW3 looks like this:
     

     
    If it doesn't run into it's power limit, it stays at 2012MHz.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 11:35 AM (permalink)
    Spent all day yesterday (post-installation, of course) trying to find the sweet spot and have yet to come up with anything stable. Thought I was good at +75 - could do a couple benchmarks with no issues, however it seems that it crashed at some point during the 1-hour stress test I started.

    So far it's been sitting at about 2050-2062 during the benchmarks, flipping between the two at random. Dropped it down to +70 and ran another 1-hour test, though I won't know the results of that until I'm done at work today. 

    So currently, between +70 and +75 trying to get a stable offset. Memory is clocked in at +300 so far. Voltage meter set to about 50% but haven't seen a difference between 5% and 100% thus far so I've left it in the middle. Power and temp targets maxed out. Hottest I've seen the card reach is 64, set to both ln2 and OC modes. Guess if they only guarantee 2025 I can't be too upset with a stable 2050.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 11:42 AM (permalink)
    Okay so i switched to all the BIOS options there are, and these are my BIOS numbers:
    - Stock: 86.02.39.40.90 (Light on top stays GREEN)
    - OC: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays ORANGE)
    - LN2: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays RED)
     
    For some reason, now all the BIOS has a limit of 130% but i cannot change the voltage with the LN2 (same version as OC?)
    I also gave a little preasure on the fans. And i have to say the GPU and PWR fans have way more space than the MEM one.
    When i press the MEM one it immedeately touched the heatsink. But both the MEM and PWR are causing the bearing noise.
    It seems that the PWR is causing the most of it. Both of my issues still haven't been fixed so far. 

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 11:54 AM (permalink)
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    Okay so i switched to all the BIOS options there are, and these are my BIOS numbers:
    - Stock: 86.02.39.40.90 (Light on top stays GREEN)
    - OC: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays ORANGE)
    - LN2: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays RED)
     
    For some reason, now all the BIOS has a limit of 130% but i cannot change the voltage with the LN2 (same version as OC?)
    I also gave a little preasure on the fans. And i have to say the GPU and PWR fans have way more space than the MEM one.
    When i press the MEM one it immedeately touched the heatsink. But both the MEM and PWR are causing the bearing noise.
    It seems that the PWR is causing the most of it. Both of my issues still haven't been fixed so far. 



    By voltage, are you referring to the percentage slider on the left of XOC? That's just locked into place for you? 

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 11:58 AM (permalink)
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    Okay so i switched to all the BIOS options there are, and these are my BIOS numbers:
    - Stock: 86.02.39.40.90 (Light on top stays GREEN)
    - OC: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays ORANGE)
    - LN2: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays RED)
     
    For some reason, now all the BIOS has a limit of 130% but i cannot change the voltage with the LN2 (same version as OC?)
    I also gave a little preasure on the fans. And i have to say the GPU and PWR fans have way more space than the MEM one.
    When i press the MEM one it immedeately touched the heatsink. But both the MEM and PWR are causing the bearing noise.
    It seems that the PWR is causing the most of it. Both of my issues still haven't been fixed so far. 



    By voltage, are you referring to the percentage slider on the left of XOC? That's just locked into place for you? 




    I can slide it to 100%, but it is stuck at 1081mV. I cannot unlock it via the menu, even with LN2 BIOS. But i think the BIOS is broken because it has the same ID as the OC one.
    Causing the card crash at 2100+ MHz (keeps extremely cold at only 62-64 ish at 40% fans though).

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 12:04 AM (permalink)
    I think, steps are 12.5MHz anyway. So you can set +50; +63; +75 and so on, because PXOC doesn't get 0.5 values.
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 12:07 AM (permalink)
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    I can slide it to 100%, but it is stuck at 1081mV. I cannot unlock it via the menu, even with LN2 BIOS. But i think the BIOS is broken because it has the same ID as the OC one.
    Causing the card crash at 2100+ MHz (keeps extremely cold at only 62-64 ish at 40% fans though).




    Ah yes I was running into that as well, was curious as to why it sat at the same amount regardless of where I moved the slider haha. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 12:25 AM (permalink)
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    Okay so i switched to all the BIOS options there are, and these are my BIOS numbers:
    - Stock: 86.02.39.40.90 (Light on top stays GREEN)
    - OC: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays ORANGE)
    - LN2: 86.02.39.41.90 (Light on top stays RED)
     
    For some reason, now all the BIOS has a limit of 130% but i cannot change the voltage with the LN2 (same version as OC?)
    I also gave a little preasure on the fans. And i have to say the GPU and PWR fans have way more space than the MEM one.
    When i press the MEM one it immedeately touched the heatsink. But both the MEM and PWR are causing the bearing noise.
    It seems that the PWR is causing the most of it. Both of my issues still haven't been fixed so far. 




    Why has OC and LN2 the same revision number? That to me seems to indicate it's the same bios? Unless you have some sort of voltage meter, I'd assume it could possibly be software related... unless there's been a new version released that supports the KPe card?
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    Re: K|NGP|N stick at stock bios Friday, July 28, 2017 12:29 AM (permalink)
    Was playing Rocket League. Card stayed at around 37C ish and hit 2012 without changing the clocks. I just used the sliders for PWR, TMP and Voltage at stock BIOS because my BIOS options are broken i think. Funny part that it was 80% running at idle speeds while maintaining 150fps g-sync (yes, at 100% load it does the same) Just wanted to compare my card vs your cards.
     

    post edited by Nervoize - Friday, July 28, 2017 12:31 AM

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