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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 09:13:00 (permalink)
Does anyone know if this effects SC models without a backplate? Are they effected? Does EVGA have any comments for the Guru3D article posted?
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 16:40:34 (permalink)
How easy/hard is it to install these thermal pads? I'm a bit wary of touching my 1070 FTW GPU, especially since I shorted out my motherboard very recently (I have since gotten a replacement).
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 18:55:18 (permalink)
Correct me if I'm wrong but use an agressive ventilation curb can also be a very good solution for that overheating issue ?
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 18:57:43 (permalink)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but use an agressive ventilation curb can also be a very good solution no fort that overheating issue ?


Can be - I've seen my temp drop from 80+ to 65C with a new fan curve.......but we don't have VRM monitoring on these cards.  Assuming it helps there too.
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 19:00:00 (permalink)
I cant believe that's not a big help to have the GPU around 50 degres in full load instead 70 degres...
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 20:11:11 (permalink)
I REALLY WISH that EVGA would release a definitive 100% official statement on the issue...There are so many threads in this forum now regarding this, but very little information by EVGA. Just comments by angry consumers, causing other consumers to worry and post more questions, and speculation leading to mass confusion.
 
They say it is only an issue on the FTW model, but is was due to flawed testing on a German site. Yet Guru3d's site (wish is very reputable) shows there is an significant increase in temps on the 1070 SC in the high 20's compared to the competitors...As was documented earlier in this thread: See below:
 
"VRM = 64℃ - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 GAMING >> 
VRM = 57℃ - ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX Gaming >> 
VRM = 69℃ - MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming Z >> 
VRM = 96℃ -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming"
 
The results above would indicate multiple model cards...
I hear some people say if your card was made after 8/30 you are ok. This naturally one think, EVGA DID in fact find an issue and since corrected it, yet did not inform consumers.
Also I want more information regarding these thermal pads. When you apply the pads do you also need to remove the aluminum heat sink, thus the need to reapply the thermal paste to the GPU. Or do you just take the back-plate off, and slap them on to the area?
I really do not want to take apart my GPU! But I do not want it to fail either.
Instructions and a video on how to apply them is definitely needed!
 
EVGA Please respond with an official once and for all statement on this issue!
1)What the issue is
2)Which cards are affected and which ones are not
3)What EVGA is doing about it
4)What EVGA recommends consumers need to do about it 
 
Venting of anxious frustration over!
Thanks
 
post edited by adamchamney@yahoo.com - 2016/10/31 20:19:34
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 20:15:59 (permalink)
The thermal pads are extremely easy to install.. Extremely. People are assuming that these card are made of hair thin glass.. They are not. Just don't use a hammer or drop your card while removing it from the case.


As for the more aggressive fan curve, yes it helps. If the air isn't moving through the cooler to the heat spreader, it isn't going to cool the heat spreader.. Turning the fan higher forces more air through the cooler which in turns deflects off of the heat spreader, and removes more heat.

People want silent systems, which they have begged for over the last few years. Unfortunately, silence equals either higher temps or more money spent on watercooling.

To get lower temps, faster/louder fans are going to be required when using air cooling. Using an AIO removes the heatsink out of the way, allowing air to flow directly over the heatspreader, which allows for better heat dissipation..

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 20:52:19 (permalink)
I have a 1070 SC ACX Black Edition with no backplate.  After reading this thread I've come to the conclusion I'm gonna overclock the piss out of it to see if I can make fireworks.  
 
Unfortunately it seems like the only way to know for sure if your card is effected seeing how no one from EVGA will clear things up for us.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/10/31 22:38:18 (permalink)
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I have a 1070 SC ACX Black Edition with no backplate.



i got the same card had 6 x black screens & 100% fan speed only a couple a days ago..i'm giving it one last chance if it happens again i'll proceed with RMA.


Shipped Date says: 09/August/2016
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 03:35:34 (permalink)
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As for the more aggressive fan curve, yes it helps. If the air isn't moving through the cooler to the heat spreader, it isn't going to cool the heat spreader.. Turning the fan higher forces more air through the cooler which in turns deflects off of the heat spreader, and removes more heat.

People want silent systems, which they have begged for over the last few years. Unfortunately, silence equals either higher temps or more money spent on watercooling.

To get lower temps, faster/louder fans are going to be required when using air cooling. Using an AIO removes the heatsink out of the way, allowing air to flow directly over the heatspreader, which allows for better heat dissipation..



 
Thanks for this answer ! I made 2 hours of BF1 yesterday -> 53 degres max.
2 hours of others games: 48 degres... 

I dont care about silence, I have an old i7 920 C0 overclocked who needs a lot of air so silence is not a specification of my computer :D
 
But If I'm not safe with that kind of temperatures, there is a bigger problem that I think...
The VRM Max temperatures is 95 degres, with all the ventilation that I have and with a 55 max GPU I hope the VRM stay cool enough....

But thanks for the answer I knew that was a huge improvement to use this style of ventilation...
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:02:12 (permalink)
The backplate heats upp the vrms and the gpu is getting upp to 8.c hotter. It is burning hot
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:08:46 (permalink)
Let's just hope these cards aren't the next Samsung note 7's and EVGA actually knows the cause of the failures.

What I don't like is the sites saying ALL cards with the ACX cooler are effected. Was this comment made from the results of thermal imaging on all the cards or is it a miscommunication?

We need an acknowledgement of the root cause and clarification on who is effected. Thanks.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:31:51 (permalink)
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What I don't like is the sites saying ALL cards with the ACX cooler are effected. Was this comment made from the results of thermal imaging on all the cards or is it a miscommunication?

It seems so, since it's an ACX issue. Only the reference design doesn't suffer from hot VRMs.
Additionally, it seems people with 1070 SCs are reporting more issues than FTW users.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:47:54 (permalink)
Right, but on the other hand you have EVGA saying it's only on cards with the custom pcb, then again they're offering thermal pads to people with SC cards on reference pcb's. I have the SC black edition which has the reference pcb and no backplate. I don't think the thermal pads work in this case but the question is are these cards effected by the hot spotting or not? For all we know they are but since there's no backplate and the pads won't work we're left without a solution since it would require a ground up redesign.

Unless.......EVGA sends back plates and thermal pads to owners of the Black Edition cards.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:50:08 (permalink)
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Right, but on the other hand you have EVGA saying it's only on cards with the custom pcb, then again they're offering thermal pads to people with SC cards on reference pcb's. I have the SC black edition which has the reference pcb and no backplate. I don't think the thermal pads work in this case but the question is are these cards effected by the hot spotting or not? For all we know they are but since there's no backplate and the pads won't work we're left without a solution since it would require a ground up redesign.

Unless.......EVGA sends back plates and thermal pads to owners of the Black Edition cards.

EVGA will send two sets of thermal pads. Ones you'll install between the mid plate and the heatsink and the other that you'll install between the pcb and back plate.
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:52:10 (permalink)
Is there a way to identify if my card had the thermal pad installed? I purchased this weekend at micro-center.
 
I have my serial # handy. Thanks!!!
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 05:58:36 (permalink)
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Is there a way to identify if my card had the thermal pad installed? I purchased this weekend at micro-center.
 
I have my serial # handy. Thanks!!!


Input your serial in this page http://www.evga.com/support/guestregister.asp
(You'll have to be logged out)
Then it'll show you when the card was shipped. But it probably doesn't have them installed. Nobody from EVGA said anything about a date from which the cards started being shipped with thermal pads.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 06:39:51 (permalink)
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Is there a way to identify if my card had the thermal pad installed? I purchased this weekend at micro-center.
 
I have my serial # handy. Thanks!!!


Input your serial in this page 
(You'll have to be logged out)
Then it'll show you when the card was shipped. But it probably doesn't have them installed. Nobody from EVGA said anything about a date from which the cards started being shipped with thermal pads.


Thanks. It shows my Shipped date as of 9/20/16.

I guess I need to find out what a thermal pad looks like to confirm it. Do I need to remove my GPU from the case?
 
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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 07:19:13 (permalink)
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Is there a way to identify if my card had the thermal pad installed? I purchased this weekend at micro-center.
 
I have my serial # handy. Thanks!!!


Input your serial in this page 
(You'll have to be logged out)
Then it'll show you when the card was shipped. But it probably doesn't have them installed. Nobody from EVGA said anything about a date from which the cards started being shipped with thermal pads.


Thanks. It shows my Shipped date as of 9/20/16.

I guess I need to find out what a thermal pad looks like to confirm it. Do I need to remove my GPU from the case?
 


Don't bother. It doesn't have any thermal pads between the mid plate and the heatsink nor between the pcb and the back plate.
Mine was shipped in 9/22/16.

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Re: Is the EVGA 1070 SC effected by the VRM overheating issue? 2016/11/01 17:55:16 (permalink)
I just wanted to add my experience for the record and for whomever it may help ease their minds.
 
I have an EVGA GTX 1070 SC which I've used since 9/27. According to the serial number the card was shipped 6/21.  I've ran this card with +100 on the core, +500 on the memory, and 112% on the power limit at a constant 80-85°C (when gaming) for the past month or so. I live in a hot humid place and I have a small cramped case which explains my horrid temps. Also I'm the second owner of the card, as I bought it off of someone else who probably used it as much as myself. ALSO, I ran my CPU stupidly hot for some time as I let the voltage on Auto when I OCed and temps were craaaazy inside my case for like 2 weeks until I finally undervolted the CPU. As of today (knocks on wood) I have had zero black screens, zero graphics driver crashes, zero throttling, and of course no catastrophic failures. And as I observe the gpu from the front (where the evga light up logo is) I can see that the pcb components are in contact with what I think are thermal pads which in turn seem to be in contact with the mid plate.
 
Nevertheless, as of today, I have returned my GPU OC settings to default and I've ordered the thermal pad kit just to be safe. 
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