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Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K?

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2021/01/28 20:53:49 (permalink)
I have a Dell 38” wide screen monitor. The native resolution is 3840x1600 60hz.
I’ll be installing a new RTX 3070 tomorrow. I’m wondering, where does 3840x1600 fall? Is it higher than 1440 but less than 4K? Should I run my games at the native resolution? I guess I’m wondering if the 3070 can handle 3840x1600 60hz in most games with maxed out settings?

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/28 21:06:17 (permalink)
    Do the math to answer your question.
     
    2560x1440 = 3,686,400
     
    3840x1600 = 6,144,000
     
    3840x2160 = 8,294,400
     
    So, yes. It's substantially more than 1440p. Roughly 75% of the pixels of a 4K monitor.
     
    Here is a collection of 3070 benchmarks on a 3440x1440 (4,953,600) UW. You may need to tweak settings in some games for steady 60fps.
     
    https://www.pcworld.com/a...rawide-benchmarks.html
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/28 21:10:40 (permalink)
    4K=3840x2160 or more, 3840x1600 is less than 4K
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/28 21:13:22 (permalink)
    Is 1600 more than 1440?

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/28 21:16:46 (permalink)
    Thanks, I should of thought more into it before asking, I appreciate your responses.
    looking forward to testing it out.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/28 23:07:49 (permalink)
    My 1080ti supports 3840x1600 @up to 144Hz so I would think that your 3070 will do it easy.
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/29 02:21:32 (permalink)
    3070 will probably struggle in newer titles with that resolution.  I ran a 1080 Ti at 3440 x 1440 up until recently and it was rough in newer titles.
    3080 I had for a bit handled it much better - now I'm at 5120 x 1440 (which is neigh on "4K" at 7.4M pixels vs ~8M), and even a 3090 Kingpin can be brought down to pretty low FPS with games as graphically intense as Cyberpunk maxed out at that large-arse resolution.
     
    Any title you play that has DLSS will make a huge difference.
    One thing you need to consider is the 3070's vRAM amount at that resolution, probably inadequate for some games without reducing settings.  Cyberpunk 2077 @ 3440 x 1440 was using 7-10GB of vRAM at maximum settings with DLSS on Quality - with an 8GB buffer, the 3070 will run outta room in titles like that with even more pixels to contend with.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/29 06:26:08 (permalink)
    I believe that 1440 is 2k and your monitor is about half way between 2k and 4k, so 3k I guess. I have the same resolution but an Acer predator.
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 03:39:28 (permalink)
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    I believe that 1440 is 2k and your monitor is about half way between 2k and 4k, so 3k I guess. I have the same resolution but an Acer predator.

    Glad to find someone with exact resolution and similar spec monitor. Do you happen to also have a 3070? Interested in hearing how this combination is working out?
    My 3070 delivery got delayed until this Monday.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 04:30:49 (permalink)
    Advice would be to stop using the "K" acronyms as they're BS anyway, "4K" isn't 4K, it's 3840x2160, call it 2160p and everyone will know what you're talking about.  1440p (standard 1440p which is 2560x1440) is slightly less than half the pixels, at 3.68M pixels, than what is erroneously called "4K", at 8.29M pixels.  Your current resolution is 6.14M pixels, so you're more towards 2160p ("4K") than 3440 x 1440 of most 34" ultrawide monitors, and you have a little over a million less pixels than my current monitor (5120 x 1440 which is 7.37M pixels).
    I would say that you're going to have to make some settings sacrifices in games to run acceptable frame rates at your resolution with a 3070, both because you'll run out of vRAM/video memory in more high end titles, like Cyberpunk 2077, as like I said before, at 3440 x 1440 on a 3090 I was seeing 7-10GB of vRAM usage in that game with settings maxed out & DLSS on Quality.  The older the game, the less issues you'll have, but the 3070 is noticeably weaker than the 3080 when it comes to high resolution, you can basically take numbers the 3070 gets at 1440p vs 2160p, and you should get about halfway in between the two, basically, most of the time, maybe a bit more towards the lower end of the FPS range between the two:
     

     
    That's Ultra RT settings & in game settings on Ultra, with DLSS on Quality, so you'd be looking at, my guess, 35-40fps average, at your resolution - if you turn RT off, should be perfectly playable.
    The Guru3d review does state that any card with 8GB or less vRAM suffers at "4K" greatly because it hits the frame buffer wall & performance tanks.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 04:40:57 (permalink)
    The reason for getting a 3070 is because that's what popped up first. Ive been on the reserve list since September/October for 6 different cards. So, I'll have to make the best of it, and if I find it's way deficient for my purposes I will get a 3080/3090 when my turn comes for one of them. I appreciate all the good information relating to resolution and FR.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 05:02:50 (permalink)
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    The reason for getting a 3070 is because that's what popped up first. Ive been on the reserve list since September/October for 6 different cards. So, I'll have to make the best of it, and if I find it's way deficient for my purposes I will get a 3080/3090 when my turn comes for one of them. I appreciate all the good information relating to resolution and FR.


    If you have just purchased a brand new RTX 3070 and it is an EVGA video card you can apply for stepup. 

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 05:04:45 (permalink)
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    The reason for getting a 3070 is because that's what popped up first. Ive been on the reserve list since September/October for 6 different cards. So, I'll have to make the best of it, and if I find it's way deficient for my purposes I will get a 3080/3090 when my turn comes for one of them. I appreciate all the good information relating to resolution and FR.


    If you have just purchased a brand new RTX 3070 and it is an EVGA video card you can apply for stepup. 


    Great! Thanks!

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 06:08:22 (permalink)
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    Is 1600 more than 1440?


     


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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 06:22:22 (permalink)
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    Is 1600 more than 1440?


     But not always, my brother has a 3840 x 1440 monitor = 5,529.600. I have a second Dell monitor that has 2560 x 1600 = 4,096,000
    In this case 1600 is less!
     





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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 08:45:51 (permalink)
    Yeah dude has a tendency to be very offensive & give answers that aren't always correct, I tend to ignore him most of the time, amazed I haven't put him on block TBH.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 09:08:38 (permalink)
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    Yeah dude has a tendency to be very offensive & give answers that aren't always correct, I tend to ignore him most of the time, amazed I haven't put him on block TBH.


    Thanks, yes, that made me feel stupid, and I'm not. I appreciate it.

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/30 15:30:40 (permalink)
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    I believe that 1440 is 2k and your monitor is about half way between 2k and 4k, so 3k I guess. I have the same resolution but an Acer predator.

    Glad to find someone with exact resolution and similar spec monitor. Do you happen to also have a 3070? Interested in hearing how this combination is working out?
    My 3070 delivery got delayed until this Monday.

    No, I have a 3090
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/31 05:04:58 (permalink)
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    Is 1600 more than 1440?




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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/31 05:14:06 (permalink)
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    I believe that 1440 is 2k and your monitor is about half way between 2k and 4k, so 3k I guess. I have the same resolution but an Acer predator.

    Glad to find someone with exact resolution and similar spec monitor. Do you happen to also have a 3070? Interested in hearing how this combination is working out?
    My 3070 delivery got delayed until this Monday.

    No, I have a 3090

    Nice!

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/31 09:23:47 (permalink)
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    Is 1600 more than 1440?







    and the counter  to that is "not if it's 5120 x 1440 vs 2560 x 1600, smert arse. lol

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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/01/31 09:51:08 (permalink)
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    Re: Is 3840x1600 more than 1440 but less than 4K? 2021/02/01 05:27:09 (permalink)
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    Is 1600 more than 1440?







    and the counter  to that is "not if it's 5120 x 1440 vs 2560 x 1600, smert arse. lol





    His question does not have 5120 or 2560 in it. It just has 1600 and 1440.  The  holds true

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