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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 16:16:34 (permalink)
I have the ftw3 ultra hybrid, and I use the default settings. If I try to push the card, and temp rise into the 65 range, then the fan gets aggressive. But defaults keep me at 60 or below and the fan runs a constant lowish speed that isn't at all audible when gaming.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 16:24:56 (permalink)
well, this is weird :)
maybe there is some differencies in vbios or something.
 
hm, did you bought it as hybrid or used hybrid kit? maybe your vbios runs as it is air cooler?

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 16:35:23 (permalink)
Bought as hybrid. No kit. I think if it were being treated as air cool then it would be spinning higher not lower.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 16:43:20 (permalink)
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Bought as hybrid. No kit. I think if it were being treated as air cool then it would be spinning higher not lower.


Honesty those answers are not promising at all.. i saw a video on youtube.. and the sound sounds crazy
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 16:51:26 (permalink)
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Bought as hybrid. No kit. I think if it were being treated as air cool then it would be spinning higher not lower.

Why? if it comes with air settings - it should reach like 60% at 80C or something like that. For example, asus rog strix on quiet bios got about 40% at 80C.
And also 0% at 55C, because fan stops at idle. While with hybrid kit something like 55C (58C for example) is a maximum gpu temp in furmark :)
So air vbios could explain why your card behave like this.
Still interesting that hybrids can have a different fan curves. Mine was very agressive.
 
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Honesty those answers are not promising at all.. i saw a video on youtube.. and the sound sounds crazy

Dont forget that any records a recorded with mic, not human ear. And recorded noise depend on where mic was placed. Was it near your ear (well, in that case mic will record NOTHING because ear is more sensitive), near case (like my record where you can hardly get pump noise) or inside case near gpu like this record that is same (mine) pump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PvPTQe0cbM
another amplification example on this record - huge and noisy air flow you can hear - just a 400 rpm fans. something that completly silent for me.
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 17:24:19 (permalink)
I may take a video tonight before I start my mod. Get a before and after.

If my default fan curve is for air cool and not water, then I'm not sure I'd want to 'fix' that. It will go to 60ish on some games, but 55ish is more common. I wouldn't want a more aggressive fan for just 5c, unless it helped my clock, which I doubt.

The curve itself won't matter at all after tonight if all goes well, as my mobo will be handling all that.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/15 20:49:38 (permalink)
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Im interested in one but people are freaking me out about the whining buzz noise is that something to worry about? Or it got addressed by evga
 
I had the same concerns about noise. I received my 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid in early January, and have had no noise issues at all.
 


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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 01:05:30 (permalink)
I've made a short video showing a quick furmark bench, and some monitored card numbers, and a quick listen to my pump.
It is very important to remember that my phone makes it sound a lot more quite than it really is to my ears. You may need to turn your volume up all the way. My tower is located just behind my monitor and a bit to the left, which is why the sound is less when I'm close to the screen and louder as I pull away. The loudness you hear when I bring the phone close to the tower is much closer to what I hear even when I'm standing away from the tower.

https: // youtu . be/9OL0mpQ73WU

You'll obviously need to remove the spaces for the link to work.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 03:59:25 (permalink)
I purchased/owned my EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING 11G-P4-2384-KR since 2/21/2019(almost 1 year ago), upgraded from a GTX980 with NZXT G10 Bracket & 120mm Corsair H75 AIO cooler(Corsair h75 AIO is slient). The EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is very loud compared to my old GTX980 it sounds like a small refrigerator with a somewhat high pitched whine. The whole reason I spent $1399USD on the card was so I didn't have to mod & take it apart- I figured it would be perfect out-of-the-box but that is not the case, TBH I don't want to RMA since i'm afraid of getting a card that has Micron memory or some used refurbished model ect.
 
I say do your research read on the EVGA forums you can find countless threads over the year complaining about the loud pump noise on the RTX hybrid cards, since the pump runs @ 100% speed & there is no way to control the speed via: software. My EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is the loudest part of my system especially @ idel, I replaced the stock fan with a "be quiet silent wings 3 120mm 1450rpm silent fan" & I replaced my main PC case, now using a modded Lian Li PC-T60B [Test Bench] using a 120MM XSPC radiator bracket for my RTX 2080ti hybrid. I never overclocked the card & have tried everything from putting the tubes down/sideways, I tried putting the radiator above the card to make sure there were no air bubbles, I don't hear any water splashing sounds- so I know there is no air trapped inside the pump. The pump is just noisy & reading multiple threads you can see EVGA pushed out defective RTX Hybrid cards without testing them in house.
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 04:38:03 (permalink)
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I purchased/owned my EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING 11G-P4-2384-KR since 2/21/2019(almost 1 year ago), upgraded from a GTX980 with NZXT G10 Bracket & 120mm Corsair H75 AIO cooler(Corsair h75 AIO is slient). The EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is very loud compared to my old GTX980 it sounds like a small refrigerator with a somewhat high pitched whine. The whole reason I spent $1399USD on the card was so I didn't have to mod & take it apart- I figured it would be perfect out-of-the-box but that is not the case, TBH I don't want to RMA since i'm afraid of getting a card that has Micron memory or some used refurbished model ect.
 
I say do your research read on the EVGA forums you can find countless threads over the year complaining about the loud pump noise on the RTX hybrid cards, since the pump runs @ 100% speed & there is no way to control the speed via: software. My EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is the loudest part of my system especially @ idel, I replaced the stock fan with a "be quiet silent wings 3 120mm 1450rpm silent fan" & I replaced my main PC case, now using a modded Lian Li PC-T60B [Test Bench] using a 120MM XSPC radiator bracket for my RTX 2080ti hybrid. I never overclocked the card & have tried everything from putting the tubes down/sideways, I tried putting the radiator above the card to make sure there were no air bubbles, I don't hear any water splashing sounds- so I know there is no air trapped inside the pump. The pump is just noisy & reading multiple threads you can see EVGA pushed out defective RTX Hybrid cards without testing them in house.


How do i know if im getting a micron chip? Instead of samsung...
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 05:23:21 (permalink)
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I purchased/owned my EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING 11G-P4-2384-KR since 2/21/2019(almost 1 year ago), upgraded from a GTX980 with NZXT G10 Bracket & 120mm Corsair H75 AIO cooler(Corsair h75 AIO is slient). The EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is very loud compared to my old GTX980 it sounds like a small refrigerator with a somewhat high pitched whine. The whole reason I spent $1399USD on the card was so I didn't have to mod & take it apart- I figured it would be perfect out-of-the-box but that is not the case, TBH I don't want to RMA since i'm afraid of getting a card that has Micron memory or some used refurbished model ect.
 
I say do your research read on the EVGA forums you can find countless threads over the year complaining about the loud pump noise on the RTX hybrid cards, since the pump runs @ 100% speed & there is no way to control the speed via: software. My EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is the loudest part of my system especially @ idel, I replaced the stock fan with a "be quiet silent wings 3 120mm 1450rpm silent fan" & I replaced my main PC case, now using a modded Lian Li PC-T60B [Test Bench] using a 120MM XSPC radiator bracket for my RTX 2080ti hybrid. I never overclocked the card & have tried everything from putting the tubes down/sideways, I tried putting the radiator above the card to make sure there were no air bubbles, I don't hear any water splashing sounds- so I know there is no air trapped inside the pump. The pump is just noisy & reading multiple threads you can see EVGA pushed out defective RTX Hybrid cards without testing them in house.


How do i know if im getting a micron chip? Instead of samsung...



You can download a third party program like: techpowerups "GPU-Z" which will show which memory it has, my RTX 2080ti XC Gaming hybrid came with Samsung memory.
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 05:57:44 (permalink)
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I purchased/owned my EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING 11G-P4-2384-KR since 2/21/2019(almost 1 year ago), upgraded from a GTX980 with NZXT G10 Bracket & 120mm Corsair H75 AIO cooler(Corsair h75 AIO is slient). The EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is very loud compared to my old GTX980 it sounds like a small refrigerator with a somewhat high pitched whine. The whole reason I spent $1399USD on the card was so I didn't have to mod & take it apart- I figured it would be perfect out-of-the-box but that is not the case, TBH I don't want to RMA since i'm afraid of getting a card that has Micron memory or some used refurbished model ect.

I say do your research read on the EVGA forums you can find countless threads over the year complaining about the loud pump noise on the RTX hybrid cards, since the pump runs @ 100% speed & there is no way to control the speed via: software. My EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING is the loudest part of my system especially @ idel, I replaced the stock fan with a "be quiet silent wings 3 120mm 1450rpm silent fan" & I replaced my main PC case, now using a modded Lian Li PC-T60B [Test Bench] using a 120MM XSPC radiator bracket for my RTX 2080ti hybrid. I never overclocked the card & have tried everything from putting the tubes down/sideways, I tried putting the radiator above the card to make sure there were no air bubbles, I don't hear any water splashing sounds- so I know there is no air trapped inside the pump. The pump is just noisy & reading multiple threads you can see EVGA pushed out defective RTX Hybrid cards without testing them in house.


How do i know if im getting a micron chip? Instead of samsung...



You can download a third party program like: techpowerups "GPU-Z" which will show which memory it has, my RTX 2080ti XC Gaming hybrid came with Samsung memory.



But that based on luck
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 06:06:24 (permalink)
Yeah only luck- no way too tell, the early batches of the RTX 2080ti used Micron memory, I buy my card in early 2019 so you will never know if EVGA will use Micron or Samsung, it depends on what they have in stock. You have to test when you get the card...
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 06:11:40 (permalink)
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Yeah only luck- no way too tell, the early batches of the RTX 2080ti used Micron memory, I buy my card in early 2019 so you will never know if EVGA will use Micron or Samsung, it depends on what they have in stock. You have to test when you get the card...


I get micron im screwed?
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 06:22:21 (permalink)
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Yeah only luck- no way too tell, the early batches of the RTX 2080ti used Micron memory, I buy my card in early 2019 so you will never know if EVGA will use Micron or Samsung, it depends on what they have in stock. You have to test when you get the card...


I get micron im screwed?



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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 09:48:42 (permalink)
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Im interested in one but people are freaking me out about the whining buzz noise is that something to worry about? Or it got addressed by evga

I had the same concerns about noise. I received my 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid in early January, and have had no noise issues at all.

My card has Samsung GDDR6 btw.
 


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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 10:36:48 (permalink)
Last night was full of disappointment.
When I put the pump onto my motherboard it did not help at all, and in some sense was even worse.

For starters, I don't know why but when using DC mode my motherboard would not allow me to reduce the pump below 60%, even though I was using a header specifically for an aio pump, but then I never should have needed such a reduction. The only reason I tried to go below 60% was because going that low did absolutely nothing for the noise. It was the same from 100 to 60. Switching to PWM mode made the noise even louder.

I am VERY disappointed in this pump. It is ridiculously cheap compared to the price of the card. This is not the quality I expect for the premium I paid. >:(

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 10:44:21 (permalink)
Did you tried that in bios or used some software?
I have an asus motherboard and also can't get below 60% in bios (while 60% is kind of fine), but with ai suite I can set it up to 0% and actually stop pump, that will lead to fast temperature rising. Normally I am running pump on 30%.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 10:50:52 (permalink)
All bios. I would not trust a program. I'm guessing that the 60% lower limit might be based on how pumps need a certain voltage to start up. I don't care about that. What matters is that turning it down did nothing for the sound, at all.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 11:00:06 (permalink)
Let me be more clear. This pump is LOUD. When I say that this did nothing for "the sound", I'm referring specifically to the higher pitched sound that accompanies the pump's already loud hum. Reducing the pump from 100 to 60 I could hear that the pump was running slower, but even at 60 the normal hum was louder than any pump I've heard at full speed. The higher pitched sound never changed.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 12:08:12 (permalink)
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All bios. I would not trust a program. I'm guessing that the 60% lower limit might be based on how pumps need a certain voltage to start up. I don't care about that. What matters is that turning it down did nothing for the sound, at all.

no, this limit doesnt based on anything.
pump even don't report its rpm back, so bios can't even tell if something connected to header or not.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 12:31:09 (permalink)
The pump doesn't have to report it's rpms. My motherboard has a header specifically for aio pump. It would make sense for there to be a lower limit on DC for pumps.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 12:48:33 (permalink)
Well, it should because rpm is an indicator that pump still running, so bios could understand what is starting voltage for this pump or fan. 
AIO / pump header is same fan header with 3A current limit (while regular fan is 1A). Nothing more or special with it. Same limits have fans - if bios don't sence fan - it for example don't let you set PWM signal lower than 40%. While on actual fans after tuning it can go down to 0% depending its minimum rpm. So 60% is some "safe" DC mode limit and it is caused by bios don't sensing any fan / pump. But not because "pump should not run under 60%!".

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 13:07:21 (permalink)
What you're saying doesn't make sense, and is not typical of what I've found with fan settings. If board doesn't sense fan it won't let you set PWM lower than 40, or set DC lower than 60? Why? If it doesn't sense a fan then it has no reason to enforce that limitation.

Of course there is nothing special about the header itself, but the motherboard decides what to do with that header. Bios would be the 'special' aspect in this scenario.

None of this even matters. Regardless of if the board could see the pump, I was still capable of altering the current to the pump for testing, and found that even when the pump was slowed down it did not fix the issue. Clear audible difference of a lower speed and thus a quietER hum. But the high pitch frequency that accompanies that hum did not change. What is worse is that the normal hum of the pump, while running slower, was still louder than what a pump should be even at full speed.

To put this bluntly; this is a very cheap pump.

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 13:14:44 (permalink)
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What you're saying doesn't make sense, and is not typical of what I've found with fan settings. If board doesn't sense fan it won't let you set PWM lower than 40, or set DC lower than 60? Why? If it doesn't sense a fan then it has no reason to enforce that limitation.

Well, that kind of question you should ask asus ;)
But maybe they decided that if there is no rpm reporting back - so 40% pwm / 60% DC is safe (for what lol? :) ).
So if I go to bios and try to set some empty header (both pump or fan) - it still has 40% pwm / 60% DC minimum on both pump and fan headers. Just because there is no rpm reported and bios didn't measure lowest rpm.
 
But! you can avoid this limitation with software.
BTW it is very strange that you have some high frequency pitch that never changes. Are you sure that it is pump? Does it dissapear if you disconnect pump for short period of time?

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 15:08:50 (permalink)
I'm sure you've tried many things by now but have you tried disconnecting the GPU's power cables to be 100% sure it's the pump and not the MB or PSU or w/e else that might be doing this. 
 
It is odd that the pitch doesn't change based on the changes to the pump settings unless of course for some odd reason those changes aren't passing through.
 
Edit: Finally found this thread.  Add your complaints here to the Asetek Rep, who's pumps are in use on these Hybrids.
post edited by GTXJackBauer - 2020/02/16 15:25:29

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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/16 21:32:07 (permalink)
The price is right. It’s 1274 after code is used though. Not the 1224 they advertised.
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/17 11:00:08 (permalink)
In regards to the noise levels I am back to square one. After adding two Corsair fans to the rad I have managed to reduce my temps, but this was never really an issue for me.

While I was connecting the pump back into the card I decided to replace the stock rad fan. Before i have 1 Corsair pushing and the stock fan pulling, but I did not see any gains from that. Only after replacing the stock fan with another Corsair did then see an improvement. This improvement in temps allows me to now let the card pull all the volts it wants right away, which in turn allows the card to get the most out of its default boost. When I did this before with the stock fan it was too annoying because the fan was too weak and needed to rev up and down all the time. So now with the two Corsair fans, and volt percentage at 100%, I can game at 2040mhz for hours, while GPU temps never goes beyond 50. This is great, however the pump noise is still an issue.

Turns out that evga has also gone with a cheap radiator fan. It is a powerlogic brand fan, and from what I could find online I believe it is rated as 800 to 1700 rpm. It's a brushless sleave fan, and it's not even listed on powerlogic's site anymore. When searching for the model number I can only find old listing from third parties, and it appears as though it was originally just a two wire fan.

As for the issue of pump noise....
It is not coil whine, and it is not the psu.
It is nothing but the pump. I have isolated all other sounds. Fans, power, coils, etc. All of these and more I have control of and can adjust louder or quieter depending on what I'm doing. It is only the pump that I cannot help. I can power just the pump directly and slow it down, but the noise persists.

The noise itself is very hard to describe. Even though I call it a high pitch, it is not as high pitched as coil whine. It's not even really THaT high of a pitch. It is just highER pitched (and louder) than a normal pump fan at full throttle.

I'm out of time right now, but I might mention something to them later in that thread.
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/17 11:14:53 (permalink)
Jiberish001
In regards to the noise levels I am back to square one. After adding two Corsair fans to the rad I have managed to reduce my temps, but this was never really an issue for me.

While I was connecting the pump back into the card I decided to replace the stock rad fan. Before i have 1 Corsair pushing and the stock fan pulling, but I did not see any gains from that. Only after replacing the stock fan with another Corsair did then see an improvement. This improvement in temps allows me to now let the card pull all the volts it wants right away, which in turn allows the card to get the most out of its default boost. When I did this before with the stock fan it was too annoying because the fan was too weak and needed to rev up and down all the time. So now with the two Corsair fans, and volt percentage at 100%, I can game at 2040mhz for hours, while GPU temps never goes beyond 50. This is great, however the pump noise is still an issue.

Turns out that evga has also gone with a cheap radiator fan. It is a powerlogic brand fan, and from what I could find online I believe it is rated as 800 to 1700 rpm. It's a brushless sleave fan, and it's not even listed on powerlogic's site anymore. When searching for the model number I can only find old listing from third parties, and it appears as though it was originally just a two wire fan.

As for the issue of pump noise....
It is not coil whine, and it is not the psu.
It is nothing but the pump. I have isolated all other sounds. Fans, power, coils, etc. All of these and more I have control of and can adjust louder or quieter depending on what I'm doing. It is only the pump that I cannot help. I can power just the pump directly and slow it down, but the noise persists.

The noise itself is very hard to describe. Even though I call it a high pitch, it is not as high pitched as coil whine. It's not even really THaT high of a pitch. It is just highER pitched (and louder) than a normal pump fan at full throttle.

I'm out of time right now, but I might mention something to them later in that thread.

The quality issues are why my 2080Ti came from Asus. EVGA used to get all of my business, but now I can't tell the difference in quality of EVGA vs Asus. I'd return/replace any $1000+ video card that has any audible whine (including pump noise).
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Re: Is 2080 ti ftw3 ultra hybrid noise still an issue? 2020/02/17 13:13:04 (permalink)
Id say Asus boards are better but think Evga make better cards.
I've used them all .

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