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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 20:21:16 (permalink)
Here I am using my EVGA SR-2 a full decade later. I did upgrade GPUs and Xeons along the way, but that's it.

I'd say it's about time for an upgrade.

I'm a Classified loyalist, but I think I'm leaning Kingpin.

Can we get confirmation both are full size E-ATX?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 20:21:42 (permalink)
Kind of a dumb question, are the EATX motherboard standoffs location the same as the ATX? I never had an EATX MB. I know my case can handle it, but I don’t have any extra standoffs. My last EVGA MB was the X58. So yeah, thinking of getting the CLASSIFIED version.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 20:23:41 (permalink)
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Can we get confirmation both are full size E-ATX?

Based on the location of the mounting holes, it's E-ATX in that it's bigger (wider) than ATX, looks a smidge taller than ATX as well.  Roughly looks the same as the Z590 Dark dimensions.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 20:24:34 (permalink)
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Kind of a dumb question, are the EATX motherboard standoffs location the same as the ATX? I never had an EATX MB. I know my case can handle it, but I don’t have any extra standoffs. My last EVGA MB was the X58. So yeah, thinking of getting the CLASSIFIED version.

Yes, the board just extends past the ATX standoff locations.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 20:30:53 (permalink)
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Kind of a dumb question, are the EATX motherboard standoffs location the same as the ATX? I never had an EATX MB. I know my case can handle it, but I don’t have any extra standoffs. My last EVGA MB was the X58. So yeah, thinking of getting the CLASSIFIED version.

Yes, the board just extends past the ATX standoff locations.

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/28 21:39:01 (permalink)
This had me confused as well. Yes, the standoffs are the same. But after a few hours of searching, I realized EATX is a generic meaning with no true dimensions applied to it. EATX just means its bigger than an ATX. EATX means it could be .1” longer or maybe 3” longer. EATX is not bound to any specific length, but it does use the same standoffs. This board looks like it extends somewhere between 1-2” beyond the last ATX standoff.


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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 05:59:48 (permalink)
Going to be doing pre-orders at all?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 06:35:26 (permalink)
I hope these new boards arrive sooner than later. Will we have an opportunity to get this before the New Year? Should I hold my breath?
 
I have ordered everything but a z690 board and not sure how long I can wait!
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 07:43:12 (permalink)
PRE ORDERS? PLEASE EVGA DO NOT SCALP US! Work with your customers during hard times!!!
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 08:01:55 (permalink)
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Lol I finally got the z590 dark it failed in two weeks, rma'd it. The replacement will show up two days before z690 and 12900k. I'm not happy at all.



Unfortunate to hear that. I feel like EVGA messed up with Z590 because they were already working on this Z690. I wanted to finally build one with Win7 but damn I see these issues and those POST LED fails even on X570 DARK, feels really awful. Maybe I should just get a Z590 Tachyon, even if the DIMM cannot do 3866 Gear 1 for RKL, but maybe it works with 4000MHz C16 on CML, then Apex XIII which has ALC 4082 awful buggy Audio chip through USB. I just dunno anymore !! A huge mess I'm in, should have got Z390 DARK and followed TiN guides sad that he left now and we see so many of these weird things.  Plus Z690 = lot of additional costs, I bet Z690 DARK will be $800 easily, add more investment for guinea pig standards like DDR5 start, PCIe5.0 start and  plus no idea of Z790 is in the pipeline just like always.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 08:48:38 (permalink)
I would love to see these in the mix as competition against ASUS and MSI as soon as possible.  Though I've never bought an EVGA motherboard before, my great experience with lots of EVGA GPUs and PSUs gives me confidence.


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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 09:35:03 (permalink)
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 14:00:54 (permalink)
when preoder start ???
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 14:05:58 (permalink)
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when preoder start ???


Unlikely they'll do preorders.  Probably the queue system like other releases this year.  No date announced yet, but Jacob has said before the end of the year, possibly end of November.  May get a tad more info today on the stream.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 14:34:31 (permalink)
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Here I am using my EVGA SR-2 a full decade later. I did upgrade GPUs and Xeons along the way, but that's it.

I'd say it's about time for an upgrade.

I'm a Classified loyalist, but I think I'm leaning Kingpin.

Can we get confirmation both are full size E-ATX?

I would expect both boards to be the same size, which should match the Z590 DARK and other DARK boards of the previous generations.
 
mech9t5
Kind of a dumb question, are the EATX motherboard standoffs location the same as the ATX? I never had an EATX MB. I know my case can handle it, but I don’t have any extra standoffs. My last EVGA MB was the X58. So yeah, thinking of getting the CLASSIFIED version.

EATX usually fits on ATX mounting holes.  If a case has a shorter front/back length, you might run into problems, but where I usually see cases have issues with our EATX boards is the amount of space left at the bottom of the board, where all the headers are connected, since some ATX cases have a PSU cover in that area.  The board can usually still be mounted, but you might have little room to connect right-angle headers (like USB2.0 or HD Audio headers).
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 14:53:28 (permalink)
Hey, I just read that ASUS Z690 motherboards have this cool PCI-E release button. Something to think about for future motherboard design (or maybe it's not too late for the Z690 lineup?). I think we all hate having to reach behind these chunker GPUs for the latch when we need to swap.
 


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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 16:39:01 (permalink)
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Hey, I just read that ASUS Z690 motherboards have this cool PCI-E release button. Something to think about for future motherboard design (or maybe it's not too late for the Z690 lineup?). I think we all hate having to reach behind these chunker GPUs for the latch when we need to swap.
 


Don't think it's really necessary. Rather them focus on improving the board itself, rather than quick release for PCIe. How often do we switch our GPUs out that we need a quick release?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 17:10:32 (permalink)
It's amazing how many people try to diss innovations to make things more convenient lol.  With lack of space in that area it's pretty annoying to take out GPUs with backplates.  I usually use an old oem stick of DDR3 but it's still harder than it needs to be.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/29 18:50:34 (permalink)
I hope one of them plays nice with Windows XP. Not a lot of slots to work with if say the LAN and USB are incompatible.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 01:21:05 (permalink)
Can't Wait to get my hands on one of these boards! 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 09:44:28 (permalink)
is it going to have more than 6 USB A ports and a PS/2 port?

its bad enough that we are going to get to start paying for wifi controllers and antennae regardless of whether we want them or not, but can manufacturers PLEASE stop including a port thats been dead for a decade on boards over $300? its kind of insulting

4 years ago, getting a motherboard with 10 USB A ports was easy.. now 10 is almost impossible..

i dont know about the other "gamers" here that you guys claim to be making product for, but my keyboard takes 2 A ports.. so a mouse and a keyboard takes up half of the available ports on your Z590

 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 11:28:42 (permalink)
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Lol I finally got the z590 dark it failed in two weeks, rma'd it. The replacement will show up two days before z690 and 12900k. I'm not happy at all.



Unfortunate to hear that. I feel like EVGA messed up with Z590 because they were already working on this Z690. I wanted to finally build one with Win7 but damn I see these issues and those POST LED fails even on X570 DARK, feels really awful. Maybe I should just get a Z590 Tachyon, even if the DIMM cannot do 3866 Gear 1 for RKL, but maybe it works with 4000MHz C16 on CML, then Apex XIII which has ALC 4082 awful buggy Audio chip through USB. I just dunno anymore !! A huge mess I'm in, should have got Z390 DARK and followed TiN guides sad that he left now and we see so many of these weird things.  Plus Z690 = lot of additional costs, I bet Z690 DARK will be $800 easily, add more investment for guinea pig standards like DDR5 start, PCIe5.0 start and  plus no idea of Z790 is in the pipeline just like always.


Z390 Dark is a PHENOMENAL motherboard 5.8Ghz 8086K Single Core, 5.6Ghz 8086K All Core overclocks on Noctua good air (pics below). I still use the Z390 Dark board every day and will remain in use in my home office until Raptor Lake, this time next year.
 
But TIN is GONE. He was the brilliant mind that made the Z390 Dark board and beautiful bios so possible and so very capable.
 
People always publicly state their reason for leaving is "to spend more time with family". When we all know the real reason is something completely different.
 
TIN is Gone! He knew the ship was SINKING. 
 
The Z590 Dark was not given the attention or time it deserved, all the bios tuning for the EVGA advertised 5333Mhz (+) DDR4 memory - that's NEVER going to happen, most likely because they had to divert so many resources into DDR5 and the Z690 Dark. Of course I'm guessing, no one knows the inner workings of the EVGA motherboard division, well there's a few that do but certainly not a joe blow consumer enthusiast guy like me.
 
 
I will buy EVGA again, but not for a VERY LONG time. Maybe in 2 to 3years if they can FIX the motherboard department. 
 
Yea, ROG does have that audio issue, but they also have the brilliant Shamino to tune the Hynix DJR bios and you WILL get 5333Mhz and 5600Mhz and 5866Mhz with your mem kits simple easy plug and play. Shamino once worked for EVGA, he also left "to spend more time with family". 
 
Good Luck guys, you are really good people and deserve a better Z590 and Z690 experience, when you're paying $600 to $700 for a motherboard - it should AT LEAST work as advertised, even if you blame the IMC's - a few Z590 Dark buyers should be able to reproduce the DDR4 Mhz as advertised, there is no way EVERYONE's EVGA Z590 DARK's IMC is not capable, while everyone using an Apex XIII IS capable - that's not possible.
 
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We had a very tight knit group of great people over at the ROG forum way back in 2012, exactly like you wonderful gents have here. I miss that comradery, now the ROG forum is simply complaints about Armoury Crate so it kinda stinks, but at least the ROG boards are delivering what is advertised to the customers and much much more. ROG Z590 specs state DDR4 5333Mhz, and that's it. They don't even tell you about the wonderful Easter Eggs also included for the same price 5600Mhz and 5866Mhz on air.
 
What can you say really? I mean its just a simple truth... 
 
Good Luck to all of you - awesome tech brothers! 
 
And I'm extremely confident my Z390 Dark will just keep on rolling for many more years to come. NO Post Code display issues at all - it's a brilliant motherboard... Thank you TIN!
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 12:00:32 (permalink)
Who in their right mind think its a good idea to make the "kingpin" gold instead of black? The theme of the board is black. why not make it dark? Also, I'll rather have the word EVGA than Kingpin. 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 12:06:00 (permalink)
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Who in their right mind think its a good idea to make the "kingpin" gold instead of black? The theme of the board is black. why not make it dark? Also, I'll rather have the word EVGA than Kingpin. 


Maybe it's an ego trip, I dunno. lolol and lullz 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 15:49:26 (permalink)
 
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I hope one of them plays nice with Windows XP. Not a lot of slots to work with if say the LAN and USB are incompatible.




Nvidia already released last Windows 7 driver, 472.12. Also RealTek codecs past 1220 we not going to have Windows 7, same for Marvell's 10G LAN controllers, the last of them were in a few boards like X570 Aorus Xtreme and a couple of them only that's from my small research, I could be wrong. Then the bigger thing is will Intel allow CSM & Legacy on 12th gen ? Last time on Phoronix and all places just google "BIOS EOL" they were supposed to phase out CSM / Legacy for full UEFI Class III in 2020 it got delayed. That's where it depends for 12th gen Z690 platform. Also you need to disable the E cores probably, as ITD works but it's not going to learn in real time Intel Thread Director simply works on basis of it's predetermined set of Algorithm for the workloads. Add Linux shenanigans to the 12gen CPU design.
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 18:54:08 (permalink)
And then there's this:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0VUpzp4ZcY&ab_channel=EKWaterBlocks
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 19:39:39 (permalink)
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Who in their right mind think its a good idea to make the "kingpin" gold instead of black? The theme of the board is black. why not make it dark? Also, I'll rather have the word EVGA than Kingpin. 


Many Kingpin GPU’s were copper color”d heat sinks.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 21:21:49 (permalink)
Damon Nabru
Hey, I just read that ASUS Z690 motherboards have this cool PCI-E release button. Something to think about for future motherboard design (or maybe it's not too late for the Z690 lineup?). I think we all hate having to reach behind these chunker GPUs for the latch when we need to swap.



I was pretty impressed seeing that new feature on some of the ASUS Z690 boards.. Before I installed the vertical GPU bracket in my rig,  getting to that GPU release latch was a bit of a task.  This might be a feature we start seeing regularly.. esp if GPUs continue to get bulkier.  

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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/10/30 23:16:42 (permalink)
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Always loved the classy line. I've owned the X58, x79, z270 classies (pictured). Also owned a x99 and z170 classies , which were unfortunately stolen, and killed my motivation to build since then. Every time I look to buy a replacement the asking price is hundreds of dollars.

With the z690 though I may do another build, the 12th gen is also very interesting. Maybe the classified GPU line comes back too, and z690 ftw motherboard for a slightly cheaper price (my kids PC is fast dieing).
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Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 Motherboards - The Ultimate Choice for PC Gaming 2021/11/01 07:58:45 (permalink)
@WebsterRKL
 
To be fair to the overclocking limits on z590 platforms, I do think there's a significantly higher likelihood of i9's that have very little headroom compared to previous generations. For example, I can hit 5.3GHz at 1.549V, while I've seen some people need that much for 5.1GHz and well over 1.65V to get higher (which is waaaay too hot). This was literally the long overdue swansong of 14nm Intel and it is at the very limit of what is feasible on this process. So it makes sense that the mileage varies a bit, but it certainly isn't what we're used to. I ran a 5820k for years at 4.2GHz (peaks at 3.6GHz normally) on a 280mm AIO. Rocket Lake is not that kind of CPU lol. I'm not saying you argued that it was, but I think comparing it to previous gens when talking about its overclocking potential is just not really that fair. I think we'd be having a different conversation if they spec'd it at 4.7GHz and then we all overclocked it to 5.3GHz, but they told us from the get go that these could boost to 5.3GHz, so we all thought "how far past that can I go?" when it turns out some people can barely even get there and when they can, it is usually on limited cores for a 24/7 setting.

All that said, I get what you're saying about memory. It seems a lot of other boards are doing better with memory OC. There's definitely a lottery there too in terms of what you can get from gear 1, which all motherboards are experiencing due to IMC limits on the CPU, but most of the boards I've seen reviews for do great with gear 2 while the EVGA z590s don't seem to be quite there (yet?...I hope...). I got mine to 5100MHz with a 5333MHz kit, but it wasn't seemingly faster than gear 1 and I didn't have the time or patience to try and figure out if I could get the timings tighter and not have it unstable or corrupting my Windows Install. If it was even close, I would have been motivated to push it, but it wasn't. I feel like you could put that same kit into a high-end (equally priced) board from some of the other vendors and might get better performance. I hope that they continue to work on this in further BIOS updates, but with x570 coming out right after and then z690 already nearing launch, I am a little concerned about further improvements that go beyond "bug fixes".
 
Also, while the LED Indicator thing is frustrating, it doesn't effect performance at all. It just seems a bit crazy that it has made it into all the recently made boards and they didn't notice. I feel like they would have had any one of the systems up and running for a while that would have seen it. It isn't going to make many people disassemble their system to RMA so maybe they haven't had that many shipped back.

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